DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[GreyICE]

AND EVERY OTHER ABILITY THOSE SHITHEADS USE ON ME AT NIGHT

INCLUDING THEIR FUCKING KILL

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LIKE GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS

YOU ARE BEING THE RHINOX

I don't know if lynching the SK works....

[Cephrir]

Well I guess not mathematically guaranteed if you aren't the target.

What's the first thing SpyreX says? "I bet Cephrir's the target". Vi has at least four different ways to win planned out in the scum QT right now, and they're in one of the scenarios.

Even in my world where you're wrong, Spyre is my best guess for both flavors of scum, so... my vote's looking pretty ok in the short run.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm still convinced you're the SK

[GreyICE]

Air Base: Capable of deploying a wide variety of response aircraft within seconds and fortified to the brink, any infrastructure surrounding the air base becomes incredibly difficult to penetrate. {

You are immune to all non-nuclear activated abilities

. Note: This includes the Stealth Bomber and terrorist attack.}

SEND HELP

I'M LLD AND I'M ILLITERATE

[GreyICE]

FACTS DON'T BOTHER ME

MY THEORY IS INDEPENDENT OF FACTS

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The fact remains that Reck would still lynch you in a heart beat and you HATE having Reck in the game.

[GreyICE]

I was actually kind of getting along with Reck this game. I've found as long as I don't read his posts he's quite tolerable. And he doesn't post.

I seriously have the least motive of any potential SK in the game to kill Reck.

[Cephrir]

i'm glad i've arrived at a place in my mafia/mental state relationship where i can just find this whole conversation funny

[GreyICE]

Well I guess not mathematically guaranteed if you aren't the target.

What's the first thing SpyreX says? "I bet Cephrir's the target". Vi has at least four different ways to win planned out in the scum QT right now, and they're in one of the scenarios.

Even in my world where you're wrong, Spyre is my best guess for both flavors of scum, so... my vote's looking pretty ok in the short run.

That still flat loses to Vi+anyone if he's the SK

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was actually kind of getting along with Reck this game. I've found as long as I don't read his posts he's quite tolerable. And he doesn't post.

I seriously have the least motive of any potential SK in the game to kill Reck.

YOU LITERALLY V/LA'D UNTIL HE WAS DEAD

[GreyICE]

Actually not only that, it loses to UT+Anyone if SpyreX is the SK.

SpyreX is about the worst possible lynch today. Literally the worst.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

God I need someone I know is town to help me.

Cephrir, I don't know you're town but you're likely to die to a nuke. Run the numbers and tell me if I need to lynch SK or scum today

[GreyICE]

I was actually kind of getting along with Reck this game. I've found as long as I don't read his posts he's quite tolerable. And he doesn't post.

I seriously have the least motive of any potential SK in the game to kill Reck.

YOU LITERALLY V/LA'D UNTIL HE WAS DEAD

HE'D JUST POSTED FIVE PAGES OF FUCKING SPAM THAT MADE MY EYES BLEED

IT WAS A JOKE AND YOU KNOW MY SENSE OF HUMOR YOU SCUMFUCK

I ALSO INTERACTED WELL WITH HIM AND WE WERE WORKING TOGETHER JUST A LITTLE WHILE LATER

[GreyICE]

We literally CAN'T lynch SpyreX today if you think he's the SK. Cephrir... Cephrir I need your head in this and not in your ass.

[GreyICE]

*sigh*

I'd ask you to put in Death Note Mafia and PYP and Neighborhood mafia and every fucking other time you've done this. And you'd call it a scum tactic and throw it in my face. So go eat a dick, I'm going to go play board games AT YOUR REQUEST

[SpyreX]

We literally CAN'T lynch SpyreX today if you think he's the SK. Cephrir... Cephrir I need your head in this and not in your ass.

Lolol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

*sigh*

I'd ask you to put in Death Note Mafia and PYP and Neighborhood mafia and every fucking other time you've done this. And you'd call it a scum tactic and throw it in my face. So go eat a dick, I'm going to go play board games AT YOUR REQUEST

yay board games <3

[Andrius]

Votecount

SpyreX [2] - Nahdia, Cephrir
Lady Lambdadelta [1] - Vi
Vi [1] - GreyICE


Not Voting [4] - SpyreX, Untrod Tripod, MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
It is now Day Four, which will end at 21:00 PST on 12/21/2016.


Nahdia is V/LA until 12/12.

Projected Impact Times:
Unknown: (expired on 2016-12-12 17:40:58)

[Vi]

Since Andrius previously missed it,

Unvote: Lady Lambdadelta

Unvote

Okay, basic math time. I don't know where the nuke will land, but lets say it hits Cephrir, or me, or whatever (not Vi now, obviously). It hits town (which it will if it's either of us). That leaves us at 4:2:1. Lynch SK, 4:2. Scum NK, 3:2. With Vi and UT as our two Nukes. If Vi is scum, that's game.

Vi says mathematically we have to lynch the serial killer.

I say I might owe my wife an apology.

Vote: Vi

It's these fucking logical inconsistencies that get you every fucking time.

*me blinks*

Yeah, those numbers make sense (replacing Vi with UT in this scenario).

So we're screwed, because what you seem to be missing is that lynching scum Today is even worse.

fake edit actually we're not

Assuming the nuke hits Town (good assumption, that), we're at 4:2:1. Lynch Russian - which seems easier to do than finding a Terrorist - to reach 4:1:1. Options include 4:0:0 (Town win), 3:1:0 (MyLo), 3:0:1 -> 2:0:1 (LyLo), and 2:1:1 (could go any way).

I like that better.

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

(L-4)
Would also vote UT because 1) scum and 2) the above Russian nuke scenario would not apply, although I'd forgive people for not going along with that.

Vi always makes the same mistake. Vi has a plan and the plan is 100% scum.

Um, what sources do you have for this? Because I'm having difficulty remembering a time when I tried to do :theory: things as scum when the plan didn't go directly through all of my scumpartners.

No SpyreX. I think Vi had this sitting in a word document and copy/pasted every bit of it into the QT when Vax died.

I wasn't in the game when Vaxkiller died IIRC. I get that you like the smell but this isn't really the time to keep your pants on your head.

Also if this is not LLD scumposting then I may have to rescind all prior compliments about her Town play.

[Vi]

Well I guess not mathematically guaranteed if you aren't the target.

What's the first thing SpyreX says? "I bet Cephrir's the target". Vi has at least four different ways to win planned out in the scum QT right now, and they're in one of the scenarios.

Double posting to point out that last night PST, GreyICE

actually thought

I replaced into a game at 3PM my time,

anticipating a scum slot and super-hype after Vaxkiller died before I replaced in

, and had

four master plans on how to win ready to go

while I presumably made a huge act of not reading anything in the thread.

tbqh this may not be alignment-relevant but it's still fun to juggle thumbtacks around his inflated ego
unfortunately it may be one of those lead-lined balloons

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Since Andrius previously missed it,

Unvote: Lady Lambdadelta

Unvote

Okay, basic math time. I don't know where the nuke will land, but lets say it hits Cephrir, or me, or whatever (not Vi now, obviously). It hits town (which it will if it's either of us). That leaves us at 4:2:1. Lynch SK, 4:2. Scum NK, 3:2. With Vi and UT as our two Nukes. If Vi is scum, that's game.

Vi says mathematically we have to lynch the serial killer.

I say I might owe my wife an apology.

Vote: Vi

It's these fucking logical inconsistencies that get you every fucking time.

*me blinks*

Yeah, those numbers make sense (replacing Vi with UT in this scenario).

So we're screwed, because what you seem to be missing is that lynching scum Today is even worse.

fake edit actually we're not

Assuming the nuke hits Town (good assumption, that), we're at 4:2:1. Lynch Russian - which seems easier to do than finding a Terrorist - to reach 4:1:1. Options include 4:0:0 (Town win), 3:1:0 (MyLo), 3:0:1 -> 2:0:1 (LyLo), and 2:1:1 (could go any way).

I like that better.

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

(L-4)
Would also vote UT because 1) scum and 2) the above Russian nuke scenario would not apply, although I'd forgive people for not going along with that.

Vi always makes the same mistake. Vi has a plan and the plan is 100% scum.

Um, what sources do you have for this? Because I'm having difficulty remembering a time when I tried to do :theory: things as scum when the plan didn't go directly through all of my scumpartners.

No SpyreX. I think Vi had this sitting in a word document and copy/pasted every bit of it into the QT when Vax died.

I wasn't in the game when Vaxkiller died IIRC. I get that you like the smell but this isn't really the time to keep your pants on your head.

Also if this is not LLD scumposting then I may have to rescind all prior compliments about her Town play.

It's not my fault you are bad at reading me and/or replaced into a scum slot.

GreyICE is literally the serial killer, nothing else makes sense to me. No serial killer would take a Silo and then ALWAYS PUT IT IN ICMB MODE.

Which means UT isn't serial killer, Vi isn't serial killer.

I can't be serial killer.

No serial killer ever picks doctor, so not Cephrir.

No serial killer ever picks counterintelligence, so not Nahdia.

That leaves GreyICE, SpyreX and MoI.

SK taking Fail Safe is funny and makes me wish they'd do that to be cheeky, but is also on the list of "things that are never happening".

SK taking Sabotage is... possible if they had an extremely unlucky streak of deployments and got stuck with their 5th or 6th choice, but....

It's far more LIKELY that the Terrorist GOT their first choice, which was the Air Base (which prevents them from being investigated by cop, from being killed at night and from having their Submarine Nuke sabotaged, or from being roleblocked.).

There is no one else. Literally no one else.

[Vi]

Weren't you paying attention? Voting for the Terrorist is out of fashion. That's why I'm voting for, among other things, the one person who

cannot

be Terrorist.

Also you have weird ideas of what "never" and "literally" mean.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If Nahdia is 100% town I'm looking at 2 more townies in MoI/Vi/SpyreX/UT/Cephrir.

Let's assume Cephrir flips town, that means possible pairings reduce to
-----------------------
MoI/Vi
MoI/SpyreX
MoI/UT
Vi/SpyreX
Vi/UT
Spyrex/UT

We can remove some of these from absurdity.

Vi + UT is almost certainly not happening. All 5 scum members with Missle Silos in a full deployment game? That feels not possible.

-----------------------
MoI/Vi
MoI/SpyreX
MoI/UT
Vi/SpyreX
Spyrex/UT

Gonna look at something quickly

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Weren't you paying attention? Voting for the Terrorist is out of fashion. That's why I'm voting for, among other things, the one person who

cannot

be Terrorist.

Also you have weird ideas of what "never" and "literally" mean.

Ok but your argument doesn't hold water. Sure, lynching the terrorist is arguably worse than lynching Russians but lynching neither is worse again.

So for you to say "the motivation for my vote is that you can't be the terrorist" is ????