DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Andrius]

Nahdia, Im mobile so cannot direct message you the Dead Thread but I added you so go for it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

God dammit I wish I had been here prior to all these shenanigans.

MoI's nuke is

UNCHALLENGABLE

No force on earth stops it.

Not Falloout shelter. Not defensive Misslo Silo, not Sabotage. it

Cannot be recalled or prevented by any means

So why, god why, didn't MoI nuke UT after he claimed to go into defensive mode?

Because he can't hide from MoI, and Vi's getting Sabotaged, so....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh, also, reason 10,00,000 I'm not scum

Scum!LLD never kills MoI.

MoI would never lynch me, and given he's the only role in the game who can nuke me, it makes no sense to kill him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

anyway, it seems that my plane flight has cost us the chance of a better LYLO.

The concept of Nahdia killing herself was just retarded. She's was obvious town, why god why.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh, also, reason 10,00,000 I'm not scum

Scum!LLD never kills MoI.

MoI would never lynch me, and given he's the only role in the game who can nuke me, it makes no sense to kill him.

Especially when I could abuse his Fail Safe nature to have someone like Vi nuke him and then get auto nuked back and then convince MoI to suicide.

Or UT, assuming UT doesn''t pants on head and select defensive.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

By the way, every post from this point on assumes Vi is town. Vi's slated to die unstoppably, and there's just not reason to even waste breath or mental space considering the option where the end pan out is "town has already won the game".

So, 3p LyLo with UT and Spyrex, let's see.

UT deployed defensively, which means one of two things

1) UT didn't know about how Fail Safe worked
2) UT DID know about how Fail Safe worked

if 2, there's a question of "why". Given that he know Vi would be sabotaged, and in this scenario, would know MoI's nuke is unstoppable, it doesn't make sense for town UT to deprive himself of a nuke shot.

It does make sense for scum!UT who is scared his nuke will be controlled. He can't just nuke anyone he likes, he'd probably get used as some kind of method to cause a scorched earth endgame. SpyreX even made several attempts earlier on. So I think there's scum motivation there.

If 1, it's still scummy. If he doesn't know he can't stop MoI, as a townie, it seems more like UT to get his last licks than to be thinking survivalist. That was a pure "I need to live through this" move by UT, so again, scum motivation.

[Vi]

At potluck being antisocial. One more iso done.

Why are we assuming SpyreX is Town again, other than sweet participation today?

@LLD how do you know Fail Safe beats Fallout Shelter?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

At potluck being antisocial. One more iso done.

Why are we assuming SpyreX is Town again, other than sweet participation today?

@LLD how do you know Fail Safe beats Fallout Shelter?

I assumed. It says it can't be prevented and my role prevents nukes. Additionally, I asked Andrius a question earlier in the game about how it would look if a nuke was stopped, and whether it would specifically state which role did it, and he told me beyond situations where it can be only one role, they would look the same.

(i.e: Defensive mode Silo looks the same as Fallout Shelter.)

So I assume they also work the same.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You can ask if you like, but, the rules seem pretty clear.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also I'm not assuming SpyreX is town, I'm just starting with UT.

[SpyreX]

oh, also, reason 10,00,000 I'm not scum

Scum!LLD never kills MoI.

MoI would never lynch me, and given he's the only role in the game who can nuke me, it makes no sense to kill him.

Uhh

Every person here as scum had to kill moi last night. He wasn't getting lynched which means a not yesterday moi kill was a guaranteed scum loss

[SpyreX]

At potluck being antisocial. One more iso done.

Why are we assuming SpyreX is Town again, other than sweet participation today?

@LLD how do you know Fail Safe beats Fallout Shelter?

Is what i said. You decide if cephir and i would ever be manufactured to the point the mod stepped in

[Untrod Tripod]

It does make sense for scum!UT who is scared his nuke will be controlled

you say, after I allowed my nuke to be controlled every previous day

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It does make sense for scum!UT who is scared his nuke will be controlled

you say, after I allowed my nuke to be controlled every previous day

WOAH WOAH WOAH WHAT?

YOU TURBO NUKED MASTIN YESTERDAY

[Lady Lambdadelta]

At potluck being antisocial. One more iso done.

Why are we assuming SpyreX is Town again, other than sweet participation today?

@LLD how do you know Fail Safe beats Fallout Shelter?

Is what i said. You decide if cephir and i would ever be manufactured to the point the mod stepped in

Hold the fuck up.

I'm the one who was pushing the poison pill down Cephrir's throat, not you. What the fuck interaction are you talking about?

[Untrod Tripod]

nuking mastina was for the good of us all

[Lady Lambdadelta]

nuking mastina was for the good of us all

Yeah, speak for yourself.

[Untrod Tripod]

At potluck being antisocial. One more iso done.

Why are we assuming SpyreX is Town again, other than sweet participation today?

@LLD how do you know Fail Safe beats Fallout Shelter?

Is what i said. You decide if cephir and i would ever be manufactured to the point the mod stepped in

Hold the fuck up.

I'm the one who was pushing the poison pill down Cephrir's throat, not you. What the fuck interaction are you talking about?

I went to look through the mod's ISO to find the relevant quotes and couldn't find them. SpyreX?

[Untrod Tripod]

besides, we were all on board with "nuke the fuck out of mastina" so you being incredulous at this point is...uh... not a great look

[Lady Lambdadelta]

besides, we were all on board with "nuke the fuck out of mastina" so you being incredulous at this point is...uh... not a great look

I literally concocted a plan to save Mastin.

Do you think I did that for fun? Because I enjoy reading mastin's posts?

I did it because I thought Cephrir was scum and if Cephrir was scum, Mastin was town.

Then GreyICE came in and blew up my plan and it was too late to really recall the Mastin nuke at that point.

so yeah. Let me go find a quote.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can't believe you're giving me anything less than a ticker tape parade for nuking that

On a personal level, you're getting a medal.

On a game state level, we really fucking needed to reassess after the GiF+Reck deaths.

[Untrod Tripod]

It is too late and there's too much insanity for the moment.

I can't get one of you guys to look at wagons for me but we go all hog wild out of the gate. For shame

All I asked was that people wait and we consolodate resource and reset and discuss.

But no, playing a game with Mastin means fucking having cancer.

[Untrod Tripod]

LLD <3 cancer

[Untrod Tripod]

I mean I'm sorry that you are disappointed that I didn't pull my nuke out in lylo, but I didn't see an upside to me using it today

I didn't want to leave the door open for shenanigans, either from me or towards me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD <3 cancer

I mean, even in that thing you just quoted my thoughts clearly display cognitive consistency.

So I'm not sure why it's surprising to you that I continue to express that view point today?