Mafia 73: NEGWLTWWWTKY - Abandoned!

[Toaster Strudel]

I still prefer my MOSvote.

And still prefer my MoS vote, too. But I did switch to Quag. As soon as Quag reads his role PM, vote goes back to MoS - unless I'm really dissatisfied with Quag's actions.

[Peers]

Unvote. Vote: Quag

If you're not letting your role affect how you play, then you can't give off any scum vibes, true... but you also can't give off any town vibes. What's worse... each of us who've read our roles know the alignment of at least one person: Ourselves. You don't even know that. It's the old saying... I'm not sure if you're scum, but you're definately not pro-town.

[hasdgfas]

If he is scum, it is more pro-town, because he'll be scum-hunting just like the rest of us, so we might have one extra townie for at least a day.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's an idiot, what makes you think he can find scum ?

[Toaster Strudel]

He's an idiot, what makes you think he can find scum ?

I'm laughing so hard, my belly is sore.

@ hasdgfas - What ABR says is absolutely true. Quag isn't gonna help zero in on scum, whether or not he read his PM. He's just dead weight, one more player for the rest of us to worry about.

Besides... he's done EXACTLY what he is doing in this game, in another game - and he was scum.

ABR I'm still laughing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I feel as if Quag should take mafia lessons from BM lol

[DrippingGoofball]

I feel as if Quag should take mafia lessons from BM lol

You're trying to kill me...

[Toaster Strudel]

I feel as if Quag should take mafia lessons from BM lol

You're trying to kill me...

Ooops!

[Quagmire]

Whoofta! So much to respond to. I must dominate some morons as well as nicely counterpoint those who actually have intelligence. You'll know which one you are when you read the tone of my post.

I thought Quag would be best handled by a vig (he needs to be killed, but it's not an informative kill, regardless of his alignment, so vig is best), but if there is a will to lynch him, I'm all for it.

Not to mention how I've seen him pull this trick before and he was scum.

first off, hiya mrs. opportunism. i've seen you do this to everyone all day, so my policy vote on you isn't totally worthless.

second,

not only was that a completely different game, the circumstances were totally and inexplicably different, you moron!

i know what game you're referencing because it was one of the only other games that i've announced that i haven't read my role in the thread itself.

i'm really tempted to tell you why you're being a doofus just by trying to compare this game to the last, but i can't talk about games that are still ongoing. i can, however, tell you that this is one of the worst arguments that i've ever heard.

I also don't understand why you want me killed. Is it because...OMGUS? That's all that I can think of right now.

Maybe putting him at -3/-2 might encourage him to play the game-and playing the game starts with reading your role pm.

dude, we arent going to lynch him. we're wagonning him, so he gets near a lynch, and has to CLAIM, hence he will read his role.

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i wasn't going to read my role anyways, but DAMN. am i totally oblivious to what you're saying or something?

If you're not letting your role affect how you play, then you can't give off any scum vibes, true... but you also can't give off any town vibes. What's worse... each of us who've read our roles know the alignment of at least one person: Ourselves. You don't even know that. It's the old saying... I'm not sure if you're scum, but you're definately not pro-town.

What, exactly, is the point of me knowing my alignment on day one? What is the point of me not "giving vibes" on day one? Somebody needs to explain this to me, because the only thing I'm seeing is that it's affecting your reads on me, something of which has nothing to do with me.

If he is scum, it is more pro-town, because he'll be scum-hunting just like the rest of us, so we might have one extra townie for at least a day.

Fantastic post. I'm fairly sure that toaster strudel is evil. I will post my reasons very soon, but for this post, I must defend myself.

He's an idiot, what makes you think he can find scum ?

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I'm laughing so hard, my belly is sore.

@ hasdgfas - What ABR says is absolutely true. Quag isn't gonna help zero in on scum, whether or not he read his PM. He's just dead weight, one more player for the rest of us to worry about.

And why is that? Especially since I explicitly told everyone why I don't ever read my role PM anymore on day one? If you need reminding, I'll tell you again:

I remove myself from alignments and roles in order to get more focus on trying to figure out who is mafia and who isn't. I feel that if I'm grounded in knowing that I'm mafia, or cop, then I post with the thought constantly in the back of my head that I'm that role; for example, if I'm a mafia, I don't want to say things that might bring myself attention, so I will hold back posting what I think in order to seem less evil to you. Well, that doesn't help win games, that just makes me into an inoffensive twat (apply this to things like cop, doctor, and even townie).

I get more out of scumhunting just by looking at this game totally objectively compared to when I'm bogged down by a role.

Besides... he's done EXACTLY what he is doing in this game, in another game - and he was scum.

Of course you fail to note that THE GAME HAD NEW MECHANICS THAT DON'T APPLY TO THIS GAME MAKING THE BEHAVIORS TOTALLY UNRELATED.

Good lord, you're stupid.

[Quagmire]

This is one of the largest facepalm games I've ever seen. Strudel, would you like me to prove to you that I don't know my role?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Good for you bro!

We still gonna lynch you though.

[Quagmire]

Good for you bro!

We still gonna lynch you though.

why? all you've done is sit here and made a tiki bar out of my head. why are you so lynch hungry all of a sudden? for no reason?

[JordanA24]

Quag, it may be helpful for you not to read your Role PM, but it seriously disadvantages the rest of us, since you don't know what your alignment is on Day 1, and, if you're scum, you don't know who your buddies are, that makes all of your posts on Day 1 completely useless for trying to find your alignment/possible scumbuddies. Even if you're town, it disadvantages the town, because now, everybody's talking about you not reading your Role PM, rather than discussing about who's scum, it just wastes time and clogs the thread, and puts unnecessary pressure on yourself.

[Yosarian2]

It looks like you'll be voting for me until the end of the day today.

Well, I'm hoping you read it today before we have to lynch you for not reading it, but meh, either way. It's really up to you; if you'd rather hurt whatever side you might be on by getting lynched rather then going and reading your role PM, that's your call.

You might think that not reading your role PM is a good metagame stratagy for you. I think a good metagame stratagy for me is to bandwagon anyone who claims they didn't read their role PM, I vote them until they either go back and read their role PM, or until they get lynched day 1 for stubbornly refusing to do so.

Besides, from my point of view, you're either telling the truth, in which case you're a totally random lynch, or else you're scum pretending you didn't read your role PM for some kind of personal gain. That makes you a better then random lynch already.

[hasdgfas]

Quag, it may be helpful for you not to read your Role PM, but it seriously disadvantages the rest of us, since you don't know what your alignment is on Day 1, and, if you're scum, you don't know who your buddies are, that makes all of your posts on Day 1 completely useless for trying to find your alignment/possible scumbuddies. Even if you're town, it disadvantages the town, because now, everybody's talking about you not reading your Role PM, rather than discussing about who's scum, it just wastes time and clogs the thread, and puts unnecessary pressure on yourself.

I say we not worry about Quagmire's role PM at this point because as you say, it is what we're talking about instead of scum-hunting. We can try to find scumtells the same way as we do every game, except that one player doesn't know his role. This gives us an advantage because he's playing as a townie. If he changes his playstyle significantly tomorrow, or again says that he didn't read his role PM, we can lynch him then, but right now, he's on our side, no matter what his role PM says.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Quag, it may be helpful for you not to read your Role PM, but it seriously disadvantages the rest of us, since you don't know what your alignment is on Day 1, and, if you're scum, you don't know who your buddies are, that makes all of your posts on Day 1 completely useless for trying to find your alignment/possible scumbuddies. Even if you're town, it disadvantages the town, because now, everybody's talking about you not reading your Role PM, rather than discussing about who's scum, it just wastes time and clogs the thread, and puts unnecessary pressure on yourself.

I say we not worry about Quagmire's role PM at this point because as you say, it is what we're talking about instead of scum-hunting. We can try to find scumtells the same way as we do every game, except that one player doesn't know his role. This gives us an advantage because he's playing as a townie. If he changes his playstyle significantly tomorrow, or again says that he didn't read his role PM, we can lynch him then, but right now, he's on our side, no matter what his role PM says.

That's a very interesting point that I'm glad you've raised but how about no. We lynch him now and

IGMEOY

on you.

[Toaster Strudel]

This gives us an advantage because he's playing as a townie.

He is not playing as a townie, he is playing as Quagmire, that is, he is completely useless.

Are you even paying attention, hasdgfas? He's pulled that "I didn't read my role PM" in another game, and he was scum. When Quagmire does that, it becomes a scumtell.

Who doesn't read their role PM with much anticipation? It doesn't make any sense, it's not believable, and, I'll say it again, he does that as scum.

[...]we can lynch him then, but right now, he's on our side, no matter what his role PM says.

He is not on our side at all. What he does cannot possibly be construed as scumhunting. He just finds players he doesn't like, and votes them.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Oooh... I like lynching mystery's

Unvote Vote: Quag

[schismatized]

MOD: Can we have VC?

[JordanA24]

Careful, by my count Quag's at -1.

[JDodge]

Vote Count:

9: Quagmire

(Panzerjager, Yosarian2, ABR, schismatized, Elmo, Toaster Strudel, Battle Mage, Peers, Kscope)

4: Peers

(hasdgfas, Mert, Erg0, Sikario8)

2: Sikario8

(Neo-Viper9, Sir Tornado)

2: Toaster Strudel

(Quagmire, MoS)

1: MoS

(JordanA24)

1: Kscope

(Zu_Faul)

Not voting:

[Quagmire]

Fine, I'll read my role. Even though the circumstances are entirely different in the other game.

[Toaster Strudel]

That's not it...

You're at L-1.

You also have to claim.

How else are we going to know whether it's BS?

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's not it...

You're at L-1.

You also have to claim.

How else are we going to know whether it's BS?

Quoted for the motherf****ng truth!

[Quagmire]

That's not it...

You're at L-1.

You also have to claim.

How else are we going to know whether it's BS?

No. Go fuck yourself. I'm on the town's side. The majority of you said that you'd unvote me if I looked at my role, and I'm a man of my word.

Why TS is scum, coming up in a few minutes.