Food Fight Mafia - WHO OWNS THE SCHOOL???


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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:03 am

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BM, those were not the only two attacking ABR...
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:22 am

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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:31 am

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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:02 am

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My role links me to no other players, you very clearly stated that you had a win condition, and I put Tar-scum as only one of the options. Furthermore, if you think ABR's claim is BS, why the hell would he be town! Seriously, there's no way you're not scum!
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:33 am

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Flameaxe wrote:BM, those were not the only two attacking ABR...
they were the most recent two, and hence the ones i noticed on my reread. If you can direct me to instances where others attacked ABR with large amounts of food, due to his claim, please do.

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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:38 am

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Prod received, catching up later today. Sorry for the absence, crazy week.
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:39 am

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Gorrad wrote:My role links me to no other players, you very clearly stated that you had a win condition, and I put Tar-scum as only one of the options. Furthermore, if you think ABR's claim is BS, why the hell would he be town! Seriously, there's no way you're not scum!
Are you a F$£KING MORON!?!?!? :shock: :evil:

Do you have any idea who ABR is?!

I'll tell you, because you are obviously new around these parts. ABR is just about the worst protown player imaginable. Hell, he's got a worse reputation than even ME! He regularly lies as town, in order to make his argument more persuasive. In fact, having not seen ABR do this as scum (if i'm wrong here, please show me a game where he has) i'm going to regard it as a firm town-tell, simply because thats ABR's protown play.
If he wrote a book on scumhunting, it would consist of 2 chapters:

1. Find someone who looks slightly scummy.
2. Find some way of getting them lynched-no matter what.

Its pretty obvious that ABR is lying, but that definitely doesnt mean that he is scum. IT MEANS THAT HE IS TYPICAL ALBERT B. RAMPAGE. :roll:

There's an absolutely perfect example of this, but unfortunately the game is ongoing, and i cant reference it. However lots of people here have half-decent meta's of ABR, and should be able to tell you the exact same thing as me. I'm currently 99% sure of ABR's innocence. I'm even more confident of that, than of Skruffs being scum!

Gorrad on the other hand, is not only a total tunnelvisioned fool, but is also blatantly scummy, and the longer he lives, the dumber we look.

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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:16 am

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Ok, anyone want to back this up? You're right, I've only played one game with ABR, and that one had no roles to claim. If others can back you up on this, I'm willing to let that point against you and him drop, but my other points are more than enough for me to recognise you as scum.
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:31 am

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Gorrad what BM just said - that was kinda what I was going on to. Thing is with a player like that he's such a liability that the Fonz approach makes a tiny bit of sense. But since lynching bad town is scummy it's always a devils bargain. Know what I mean?
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:38 am

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Gorrad wrote:Ok, anyone want to back this up? You're right, I've only played one game with ABR, and that one had no roles to claim. If others can back you up on this, I'm willing to let that point against you and him drop, but my other points are more than enough for me to recognise you as scum.
lol i like the way you accidentally used the plural. As fas as i can tell, you only have 1 supposed 'point' against me, and that is the fact that Tarhalindur MIGHT be insane, or i MIGHT be a Godfather.

I have to say, you're worth your weight in comedy gold, but as far as hunting mafia games, you arent fooling anyone.

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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:02 am

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1. The difference in BB notes

2. The win condition

3. The craplogic/ad hominem attacks

4. You say 'I'm not exactly convinced of Fonz being scum either, but of the two, he is a better play.' If you think ABR's a bad player, why do you agree with him about Fonz? So far, all I can see against Fonz is that ABR counterclaimed, which you yourself said was BS.


I have more, but those are off the top of my head. I've been arguing against you for pages, far before the Tar claim even came up. You're by far the scummiest player here. If you aren't lynched tommorow (since it's fairly obvious people agree with me about ABR today) I will be sorely disappointed.
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:12 am

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Gorrad wrote:1. The difference in BB notes

2. The win condition

3. The craplogic/ad hominem attacks

4. You say 'I'm not exactly convinced of Fonz being scum either, but of the two, he is a better play.' If you think ABR's a bad player, why do you agree with him about Fonz? So far, all I can see against Fonz is that ABR counterclaimed, which you yourself said was BS.


I have more, but those are off the top of my head. I've been arguing against you for pages, far before the Tar claim even came up. You're by far the scummiest player here. If you aren't lynched tommorow (since it's fairly obvious people agree with me about ABR today) I will be sorely disappointed.
1. Does not prove that i am scum. Proves that either Skruffs or I are scum.
2. Misconstruing my wording maketh not a good case. Arguing semantics over a discussion about role-pms, WHICH ARE NOT GOING TO BE GAME BREAKING IN ANY CASE, does not prove anything.
3. Please explain-this is a new one.
4. A fair point, but in actuality, I am CERTAIN that ABR is town. Yeah, he can be incredibly irritating at times, but its not completely out of this world that he might be right once in a while. Have i thrown food at Fonz? No, because he's claimed an investigative role, and he sounds pretty believable. But that doesnt mean he is confirmed town. The only case i can see against Fonz is his dubious attempt to defend Skruffs, which is basically nothing, hence me NOT THROWING FOOD AT HIM. :lol:

You have more? Please keep them coming, kiddo.
You arent going to win any recognition or awards if all you do is say that people are scum, and dont back it up with evidence. As for people agreeing with you about ABR, dont be RIDICULOUS. Only 1 person has even responded, and he agreed with me. rofl.
Any chance of you coming back to Earth before the end of the day? :roll:

I'll give you some free advice, which ought to be given to me more often tbh.
Take a little break from the game. Just a few days without thinking about it. Then come back, and with an open mind, read through again. You'll be amazed what can be found when you take a step back.

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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:53 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Flameaxe wrote:BM, those were not the only two attacking ABR...
they were the most recent two, and hence the ones i noticed on my reread. If you can direct me to instances where others attacked ABR with large amounts of food, due to his claim, please do.

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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:55 am

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Flameaxe wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Flameaxe wrote:BM, those were not the only two attacking ABR...
they were the most recent two, and hence the ones i noticed on my reread. If you can direct me to instances where others attacked ABR with large amounts of food, due to his claim, please do.

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Ok, add Flameaxe to the list ftr, though in fairness, he was at least honest about his opportunism. BBM, please tell me what your view is of ABR from a meta context?

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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:57 am

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I have claimed to have a set number of BB notes that reset every day.

It is known that I have 3 bad behavior notes (used yesterday, counted by mod)

I have used the same number today. If BM is "right" about him (and therefoer, in his opinion, everyone), then the eight notes I gave him today, are nonexistant, and won't be coutned at the end of hte day, because I would have used all of them yesterday.

If the bad behavior notes I used today show up (as part of hte total of bad behavior notes, wether it be 3 by themselves, or 7 if it includes yesterday's in teh mix), then BM is a lying poop head, OR

OR






ORRRr


There is more than one mechanic in regards to bad behavior notes.


However, since it IS EVIDENT that I DO HAVE bad behavior notes, it is ALSO likely that I Am telling hte truth in regards to how they work for me, NO?
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:58 am

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He's a retard that sometimes lets his ego get in the way of actually playing the game. He's also sometimes a jackass, but that doesn't bother me for (what should be) obvious reasons.

My 'alpha strike' was not affected by a meta of any sort, only his counterclaim and the way he is currently pursuing it.
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:00 pm

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Flameaxe wrote:He's a retard that sometimes lets his ego get in the way of actually playing the game. He's also sometimes a jackass, but that doesn't bother me for (what should be) obvious reasons.

My 'alpha strike' was not affected by a meta of any sort, only his counterclaim and the way he is currently pursuing it.
Do you think Albert is the sort of person who would fakeclaim as town in order to make a point?
or even better, have you ever seen him do this?

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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:03 pm

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Yes; No.
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:25 pm

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But if he fakeclaims as town, how does that make Fonz more scummy?
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:26 pm

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Using BMlogix™, it does.
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:30 pm

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BM wrote: There's an absolutely perfect example of this, but unfortunately the game is ongoing, and i cant reference it. However lots of people here have half-decent meta's of ABR, and should be able to tell you the exact same thing as me. I'm currently 99% sure of ABR's innocence. I'm even more confident of that, than of Skruffs being scum!
My meta-knowledge of ABR is about a quarter-decent, but I do know his tendency for crazy behaviour as town.

If ABR is being typical pro-town ABR here, then that says nothing about Fonz, other than that ABR is going to be pursuing him doggedly
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:52 pm

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Welp, Albert's nothing if not reliable. I'm getting a sense of deja vu here...

ABR's not chasing this hard enough to be genuinely claiming or to be scum. This goes on the "ignore" pile, though his role may be genuine (if not his flavour).

I buy Fonz's claim, and by extension I buy Skruffs as innocent. I'm not 100% convinced of Tar's claim, but I don't think BM is scum so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I still have lingering bad feelings about Gorrad from day 1, though I suppose the allergy thing fits with the biggest problem I had with him (his OTT reactions to food thrown at him).

Let's see, who does that leave? I guess I need to look back a bit further.
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:31 am

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Erg0 wrote:Welp, Albert's nothing if not reliable. I'm getting a sense of deja vu here...

ABR's not chasing this hard enough to be genuinely claiming or to be scum. This goes on the "ignore" pile, though his role may be genuine (if not his flavour).

I buy Fonz's claim, and by extension I buy Skruffs as innocent.
Not 'innocent.' 'Not SK.' He may be groupscum, though I haven't seen a good argument for that.
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:18 am

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Eh. I'm happy to lynch Albert every time he pulls this crap. LAL is a useful meta for a reason. I'm willing to lose games not to deal with this crap from anyone. Though, seriously, nobody's -ever- seen Albert make a fakeclaim as scum?

All this kamikaze alpha strike nonsense is getting on my nerves. (of course, so are those saying we shouldn't "waste food" in a food fight game).
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:38 am

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Skruffs wrote:But if he fakeclaims as town, how does that make Fonz more scummy?
umm, I am convinced ABR is town. Im not certain Fonz is town. Hence Fonz is more scummy than ABR. :roll:
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