STEVEN UNIVERSE 2: DEAD THREAD

[Varsoon]

Phew, I sure hope so.
I'd love for this game to win something.

[Klingoncelt]

Happy New Year, everyone.

[Titus]

Happy New Year!

[Varsoon]

<3

[Creature]

anyways I never said the Gems lied..... they are masons.....that doesn't mean that Vasoon didn't slip a scum into the masons.
I find your response very telling.....

Ai ai ai.
É uma obsessão sigo apaixonado.
Esse fogo arde no meu coração.
Ai ai ai.
Essa tentação
Minha boca sente ainda teu sabor.
Minha boca sente ainda teu sabor.

[Titus]

His name is Fuzzy Logic

[Shadow_step]

Lol

[McMenno]

I want to die

[Titus]

We are dead.

[McMenno]

mastin just has to say: when rr is lynched, I will stop vomiting word walls

in sheer desperation, moi will capitulate

[McMenno]

We lynch one of the others (RR for example) and the Crystal Gems bubble one of the others (Fuzzy). Assuming successful Mafia kill going into the next day we have

2

Confirmed Town

GEMS

1 Other

oops! scum wins because there are no earth players left alive

[McMenno]

fuzzy let's play a game it's called reading the game

[Varsoon]

What's that? You wanted another mastin2 wall?

Spoiler:

Fuck me, why is it that whenever I go to make a case against a person, I end up instead thinking I could be wrong about them and that they are town?
(To some extent, vice-versa, too, in regards to grapes. I towncased for grapes and yet I'm doubting that all of a sudden, at least in part because in my scumcase of RR, I'm doubting what I said.)

In this case. Basically it boils down to: yeah there's a metric fuckton of evidence for why Reasonably Rational is scum.

Now RR is both right, and wrong, about me. I am pulling out all the stops to lynch them, which means I'm going to make a shitload of bad points, of points of questionable validity, points I may not believe in fully. But the thing is, I still believe in them, and RR knows me well enough to know that I do believe in them being scum, even if I can't properly define good reasons for why. So, I think they are scum. I'll bring up points that aren't so stellar. Maybe I know they aren't so stellar, but I wouldn't ever actually lie. I wouldn't say something which goes against my actual thoughts.

...I will, however, lie by omission, like I am doing right now. Because when making that gigantic wall I just did on why RR's actions this day phase have been bad? I keep on thinking about the effort to reevaluate. It actually feels sincere, and the moment I thought that, I felt like a dick for posting the case against them when I was no longer certain about them.

Like.
Cerb in particular seems to actually be sincere, in that he's rethinking things. In my casemaking, I could be driving an actual town person to go away from that, away from the helpful stuff, back into being useless. And it's a mental battle I face now because I have to ask myself again.

Like, on page 479, when I was doing all of those quotes? I was mostly searching for signs I was wrong, and found almost none, so I continued. With my case on 480, I wasn't making a case looking to be wrong. I was making a case expecting to be right.

Yet now. I'm not sure I was right. I keep thinking it was a mistake, to push there. Yet I don't know for sure if it was. I could still be right. And if I'm wrong...then who is the scum? I don't actually know. And the more I think about it, the more my head spins and the more I feel like crying tears which defy words and explanation, because I'm feeling emotions I shouldn't feel in a game but definitely am all the same.

This really fucking sucks.
If I am wrong, I can't figure out where to go, how to find the way to being right.
If I am right, I can't decide to be on track, and devote myself to it 100%.
I thought I was getting over it. I thought I had finished with the doubt. I thought that--right or wrong--I was committed to the task. That I had found conviction. I talked myself into it. Yeah, grapes is town. Yeah, Almost50 is town. Yeah, Fuzzy is town. Shiro can only be scum with two scum and Yeah, there's only one scum left so Shiro must therefore by default be town.
...I don't. I thought I had, but I was wrong. The doubt's still there. Stronger than ever. And it's not going away any time soon.

[McMenno]

go away

[Varsoon]

<3

[SirCakez]

WE LOVE YOU VARSOON

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Creature]

Show mastin2 support, she can't doubt her read now.

[Titus]

I was swayed away from RR too.

[Creature]

I'm still firm, scum won't sway me easily.

[McMenno]

but you're dead lmao

[McMenno]

Spoiler: we haven't forgotten, almost

[Varsoon]

Heheheh
Yume also wants to communicate that she actually crumbed the name 'STEVEN' with the first letter of each final word in each post, starting with post 184.

[Titus]

Grapes, look at my role. Soooo close...

[Varsoon]

Mmm, Mastin2 sure does have a lot to write about this game:

Spoiler:

Fuck doubt.
Between 12075, 12076, and 12077, I'm absolutely sure at this point.

While I suppose, sure. It's theoretically possible grapes started as a leftover and converted to scum, fuck that shit.
grapes started as town. Grapes was definitely the N1 nightkill. His survival tipped the scumteam off to Not Chara's protection. As a result, grapes is not scum. Not original scum anyway.

I want to say fuck doubt on Fuzzy, though as I was typing out the reasons why, it ironically instilled some in me about him.
Basically, the thought there goes that Fuzzy has proven he could shoot, via Firebringer. Now, the only questions there are whether he has more than one and whether he could use both the faction kill and the individual kill. Varsoon may or may not be tight-lipped about this sort of thing, but I'm sure there's some way to get an answer he deems acceptable, which could give me the answer that I'm looking for.

I can see Fuzzy shooting farside, it failing, and him deciding to use his empowered shot on her. That's the one thing keeping me from clearing him as town. But at this point I kind-of what to go fuck that to the idea. I just am sick of it, with every bone in my body telling me that the scum's lack of a kill N8 was due to scum trying to frame Fuzzy. (There's also him having held fire N7, which was a time scum could not have killed, and thus makes Fuzzy look worse because he didn't prove himself during said time. But again. I really don't want to pursue this train of logic anymore.)

Fuck the idea of two scum alive, so Shiro by default must therefore be town.

I'm at the point where I just think that Reasonably Rational is the most likely to be scum.
Especially since they're the only ones that haven't said they want to die. (Quite the opposite, they've insisted they need to live.)
Fuzzy is advocating for his death, Almost50 is advocating for his death.
grapes knows he can't die, but that's not something he asked for.

There is a narrative which makes a metric fuckton of sense for Reasonably Rational being scum, masterminding the events in this game. With only the one hole I can't explain. But compare that one hole, to other players where there's tons of holes, and it's the whole "everyone has a reason to be town" thing again, when knowing one person isn't.

Basically what I came here to say is.
Only two people could be scum to me: Almost50 and Reasonably Rational.

And once again. With what I just uncovered. That's a really fucking damning thing for RR. The kills match. The timeline matches. The reasoning matches. The whole narrative of the game matches for them being scum, save that small detail.

And in a game which is over 480 pages long, what more can I ask for?
I can't get it any clearer than this.

Which is frustrating because I don't know how to convince others that I'm right.
Fuck, I can't even convince myself that I'm right.
I mean. The basic message I'm saying here is.
I'm sick of doubting myself.
So fuck doubt, I want to go without.
But that's me, deliberately discarding something, which is definitely there otherwise.

I feel like at this point in time, I have a perfect clarity on how things went. I feel like at this point in time, I more or less KNOW what happened in the game, and why. I might have made a mistake on the instigator of these actions, which my doubt loves to eat up and magnify, but the picture, my logic, says to fuck that and just go with what I'm saying.

I really think that I have something which is worth it.