Mafia 71: The Corsican Syndicate - Game over!

[mcpaltp]

Let's vote for somebody, already. There have been a third of the posts in the first day on the second day.

Personally, I think that there is a good chance that we are screwed, as we just had two townies modkilled, but whatever. Let's at least not have a no-lynch today, folks.

Vote CKD! Why not? Scummy yesterday, absent today! Two days, people!

(I am willling to entertain voting for other people, if we get some decent cases in here. I'm unconvinced on Phate at this point, which is why I'm not going for him/her.)

[cicero]

I have no idea whether we will remain unconfirmed. Ive never been in a situation where my role changed after day one. It's weird to me. We havent had a chance to talk yet either. I have absolutely no evidence to suggest we will later confirm each other.

I still don't get the point of the role, to be honest. Also note - this claim doesnt even prove MY innocence of anything. If my mason buddy could be scum, so could I. He has no reason to completely trust me. The message I got specifically said we are unconfirmed to each other. But the PM didnt use terms like "sibling" or "brothers" or "lovers" or anything like that.

Sorry for my error re: Mcpaltp. I

retract my FOS

[Battle Mage]

BM I'd like you to find me a game where I DON'T softclaim being townie. You are just way way waaaaaaaaay off base on that. I do it as town all the time. Pisses people off like crazy. In fact, I've just did it again in mafia 71. See - doesnt that just piss ya off.

FOS Battlemage[/FOS] for ignoring my meta when he should damn well know better by now. And if he shouldnt know better then he doesnt have enough games with me to gauge my meta at all yet.

Umm, i dont recall commenting about a meta on you atall. Get a grip, and stick to the facts buddy.

[Peers]

... holy shit, I was right?

I'm sorry, man, I was just jokin' around...

[Battle Mage]

OK - in all seriousness for a change:

CLAIM: I'm a mason. I'm town. I have a partner. Go vote somebody else.

It's two days from deadline. Now! I became a mason last night. I was nothing at the beginning of day one. The mod sent me a PM and poof. Now I am a mason.

What is more interesting is that my mason partner and I are

unconfirmed

to each other. That means he/she can't vouch for my innocence and I can't vouch for his/hers. At least not so far.

I'm not precisely sure of the mechanisms involved and why one should have an unconfirmed mason buddy. It seems weird to me. We discussed it in mafia discussion and I never did figure out the usefulness of it. However, one thing that did come out is that unconfirmed masons are vastly more likely to both be townies.

In addition, since the masoning happened to me last night and not on night one, I can only speculate, but our relationship may evolve to confirmed status over time. But this, again, is rampant speculation and probably worthless.

There's the facts, kiddies.

Ah finally. Something to ease my concerns.
I'm seeing 'panicked scum plays for time with power role claim' written all over you atm Cicero.

Now, a few questions.

1. What role did your original role pm contain?
2. Does your mason buddy know who you are?
3. Have you spoke yet?

BM

[cicero]

Do I strike you as the panicky type, Battle Mage? You are miles away from lynching me but close enough to deadline that I want to avoid a No Lynch. My claim will also hurt the town very little but will generate discussion.

1. What role did your original role pm contain?
2. Does your mason buddy know who you are?
3. Have you spoke yet?

1. Vanilla townie.
2. Yep.
3. Nope.

How else can I be of service?

[cicero]

... holy shit, I was right?

I'm sorry, man, I was just jokin' around...

That was why my ears went "awoooo" like scooby doo when you said it.

[Peers]

Why the hell can't I guess right like that when it actually matters?

[Battle Mage]

Do I strike you as the panicky type, Battle Mage? You are miles away from lynching me but close enough to deadline that I want to avoid a No Lynch. My claim will also hurt the town very little but will generate discussion.

1. What role did your original role pm contain?
2. Does your mason buddy know who you are?
3. Have you spoke yet?

1. Vanilla townie.
2. Yep.
3. Nope.

How else can I be of service?

lol i'll tell you how. You can get your mason buddy to claim. Im not bothered about the fact that you cant confirm each other innocent. All i want is for you to confirm each other as MASONS.

Thanks,
BM

[cicero]

Mod Can you please prod my unconfirmed mason buddy. Tell them it's important.

[cicero]

Why the hell can't I guess right like that when it actually matters?

Mafia is like playing Pinata in a gymnasium.

[Porochaz]

I have no idea whether we will remain unconfirmed. Ive never been in a situation where my role changed after day one. It's weird to me. We havent had a chance to talk yet either. I have absolutely no evidence to suggest we will later confirm each other.

I still don't get the point of the role, to be honest. Also note - this claim doesnt even prove MY innocence of anything. If my mason buddy could be scum, so could I. He has no reason to completely trust me. The message I got specifically said we are unconfirmed to each other. But the PM didnt use terms like "sibling" or "brothers" or "lovers" or anything like that.

Sorry for my error re: Mcpaltp. I

retract my FOS

2. Does your mason buddy know who you are?

2. Yep.

K if your both unconfirmed how does that person know who you are... beyond you claiming it in the thread...

since we are 48 hours or so from deadline I will vote Cicero on the day of the deadline if there is no alternative mason claim... Im not sure I believe that claim...

[cicero]

We are unconfirmed as to alignment not as to identity. He doesnt know if I'm scum. I dont know if he's scum.

All I can tell you is in mafia discussion such roles were said to be vastly more likely to be town but even that was a matter of conjecture. I dont trust that my mason partner is town whatsoever.

[Peers]

So you're claiming to be a Mason with someone who needs prodding.

Convenient.

[cicero]

So you're claiming to be a Mason with someone who needs prodding.

Convenient.

D.A.
You claim you threw your gun into
the Royal River before the murders
took place. That's rather convenient.

ANDY
It's the truth.

D.A.
You recall Lt. Mincher's testimony?
He and his men dragged that river
for three days and nary a gun was
found. So no comparison can be made
between your gun and the bullets
taken from the bloodstained corpses
of the victims. That's also rather
convenient, isn't it, Mr. Dufresne?

ANDY
(faint, bitter smile)
Since I am innocent of this crime,
sir, I find it decidedly inconvenient
the gun was never found.

FADE TO BLACK: STH TITLE UP

FYI.

My partner's a good sort. I expect he'll turn up if prodded. If not I'll tell you who he is on deadline day.

[Porochaz]

So even if your unprodded mason buddy does claim, all we would know is that you are a mason, it seems a bit of a complicated role to get so far into the game and doesnt even help us if it turns out you are a mason... so personally I cant see any reason why A. you needed to claim and B. why Im not voting you. I think its a very iffy claim and even if he does get it it does not guaruntee anything, if anything I think it'll make him look more scummy simply because he claimed at L-5...

vote cicero

[cicero]

Works for me. What's your case BESIDES my claim, Porochaz? Who else do you suspect? who dont you?

[Porochaz]

K that is the main thing, however I also don't like your vote on Phate or the fact you had to be notified(by JDodge) before you started to play your usual way...(about "Lynch all Lurkers").

I also suspect windshipper still from the argument you both had earlier on where he missed out a bit of your post to make you look scummy and when it was picked up on he never replied to it.

I also minorly suspect BM, purely for the reason that hes playing more carefully than he usually does. Apparently thats usually a scum tell for him... although that would be a stupid reason to ever vote him. I also am looking at skitzer for the same reason. Again same rules apply. Im also wanting the two other non voters to post something substantial as they have not done so in a long time...

The others Im fine with, although I would like to see CKD post something soon as well, although I dont find him particularly scummy.

[mcpaltp]

y'know, I kind of have an uterior motive for not lynching cicero here, as he is one of the very few people who actually posts anymore.

Let's lynch this other guy over here-- vote CKD in 2003!

[cicero]

Good posting. Porochaz feels like grade A townie to me.

What's wrong with my vote on Phate, exactly. I can't see a better case against anyone else right now, personally.

Do you see an irony on jdodge popping out from lurking to finger someone else for lurking and then going back to lurking? Does anyone else? Jdodge, why are you lurking?

Battlemage, are you being more careful than usual? You certainly don't seem any less wrong than usual (from where I'm sitting...). I have made a note to self to figure out how to read Battle Mage. He's actually grown a kind of lynch immunity now .

Skitzer though, you have a good point about Skitzer. How do you respond Skitzer? Are you being more careful than usual?

Actually before I call your points good about Battlemage and Skitzer, could you back them up for me. What do you flag as an example of more careful play for them both. Give an example of what they did that normal BM and Skitzer would not have done.

Can you quote that Windshipper line for me?

What does everyone else think of Porochaz's observations?

[Battle Mage]

actually if its all the same Cicero, why dont you claim your alleged mason buddy? Then when he turns up, he can agree, or disagree.
Unless i hear a confirmed buddy claim by deadline, you will be lynched.
My will be done.

In the meantime, lets run him up a few more votes.

BM

[curiouskarmadog]

really dont have much to say...lost interest in the game once the SA kids did their things, we lost our mod, and the other mod kills.

I am reading the game but dont feel that Cicero's or Wind's bandwagon really have a case presented..MC hasnt really pushed a case against me, so I really have nothing to defend against...but I am sure when he does and I break it down, he will just call me over defensive...(yawn).

MC why dont you present a case, then push for my lynch.

[Battle Mage]

and Cicero, if you think i am genuinely lynch immune, please go post that in all my games. Because the word needs spreading.

[mcpaltp]

really dont have much to say...lost interest in the game once the SA kids did their things, we lost our mod, and the other mod kills.

I am reading the game but dont feel that Cicero's or Wind's bandwagon really have a case presented..MC hasnt really pushed a case against me, so I really have nothing to defend against...but I am sure when he does and I break it down, he will just call me over defensive...(yawn).

MC why dont you present a case, then push for my lynch.

Can you believe how overdefensive this guy is? Lynch 'im!

[cicero]

actually if its all the same Cicero, why dont you claim your alleged mason buddy? Then when he turns up, he can agree, or disagree.
Unless i hear a confirmed buddy claim by deadline, you will be lynched.
My will be done.

In the meantime, lets run him up a few more votes.

BM

I'm gonna do...

what I said I was gonna do...

when I said I was gonna do it!

Capish?