Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

IM SORRY IM BACK TO WORK.

[Nachomamma8]

Lynching town Nacho is pretty good for scum.Or alternatively, bussing scum Nacho would reap a shitload of towncred.

I can see him pushing Mastina because he disagrees with her approach to Pine, but I think that his logic sort of falls flat right about here; I don't think that it's reasonable for Mastina to believe that she can get me lynched by saying "Pine will pick him" regardless of our respective alignments because it's just not a strong case on its own. Maybe as a supplement it can get a small extra boost, but alone? Fuck no. It seemed pretty clear to me that mastina's motive as scum there wouldn't be to get me lynched.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

No I mean it's just cute that you think I'm scum. When I tell you I got nommed for a scummy award, it's because you wouldn't even think it was possible that I was scum, if I was scum this game. Especially when I haven't played with you as town, when you can't tell the difference, you're pretty much fucked.


I think I deserve a flash wagon

while it's possible pine would guide cakez to buddy the shit out of you this post does look pretty solidly town

Okay, explain to me how the post is town because it's so hard for me to try and get an outside perspective on how that post reads town. I still can't get the reason as to what people are seeing.

If it's a genuine belief that you have a strong scum game and people wouldn't pick up on it, then I don't think that you'd be in the position talking about how impossible it would be to catch you when you've already been caught. It's not a strong read because the reason you wouldn't say something like that is because it feels silly as hell doing it and usually falls flat but I certainly see where Cakez is coming from with that.

To make sure I understand, you're saying it's town because it's a contradiction of what the game status was at the time?

[Nachomamma8]

Also Pisskop's followup to that post is hot garbage: "don't afford credit for bussing Nacho" misses Cakez's point completely.

[drealmerz7]

no, it's to get you to TR her

boom

hey, mastina, did you check out aeronaut's drunken christmas party? just finished, pine was scums I was town

[Nachomamma8]

To make sure I understand, you're saying it's town because it's a contradiction of what the game status was at the time?

That's the idea behind it, yes.
From my perspective, I have a tendency as town to recognize points where suspicion wouldn't be a problem if I was scum; when you're scum, you can do certain things to avoid suspicion that you just can't do as town. It felt like that for me.

[mastina]

GIN I NEED YOU WORKING NOT PUNNING

I mean, they're not mutually exclusive.

But yes, do work, play only after as a bonus.

[Nachomamma8]

no, it's to get you to TR her

boom

hey, mastina, did you check out aeronaut's drunken christmas party? just finished, pine was scums I was town

That would be mastina scum motivation that makes sense, yes.

[Nachomamma8]

Because whenever someone asks why someone just naked voted them, they'll inevitably say some stupid shit like "reasons" or "not saying" or whatever.

This is Cakez's response to Monokuma's "why didn't you respond to our naked vote?". It was pretty good.

[Prism]

Problem of Monokuma: Everything before their Fate push is flaming trash and worth instalynching them for, everything after is actually pretty solid. #923 on is back to being bad.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Lynching town Nacho is pretty good for scum.Or alternatively, bussing scum Nacho would reap a shitload of towncred.

I can see him pushing Mastina because he disagrees with her approach to Pine, but I think that his logic sort of falls flat right about here; I don't think that it's reasonable for Mastina to believe that she can get me lynched by saying "Pine will pick him" regardless of our respective alignments because it's just not a strong case on its own. Maybe as a supplement it can get a small extra boost, but alone? Fuck no. It seemed pretty clear to me that mastina's motive as scum there wouldn't be to get me lynched.

The only thing that sticks out to me in this post is if Cakez knows Mastina's philosophy on bussing. Wiki tells me she thinks it's the most overrated thing ever.

[mastina]

hey, mastina, did you check out aeronaut's drunken christmas party? just finished, pine was scums I was town

If it was ongoing at gamestart, then no.

The games I listed were the games which were eligible to be listed at the time.

[Nachomamma8]

The only thing that sticks out to me in this post is if Cakez knows Mastina's philosophy on bussing. Wiki tells me she thinks it's the most overrated thing ever.

Doubt it.

[Nachomamma8]

Problem of Monokuma: Everything before their Fate push is flaming trash and worth instalynching them for, everything after is actually pretty solid. #923 on is back to being bad.

Fate push is good?

[drealmerz7]

yeah it just finished, tis why I brought it up

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

The only thing that sticks out to me in this post is if Cakez knows Mastina's philosophy on bussing. Wiki tells me she thinks it's the most overrated thing ever.

Doubt it.

Alrighty then it sounds like a valid post to me then

[Prism]

At some point someone is going to have to sell me on Gin/Fate being town but that's going to have to happen another time. Fate gets a pass solely because of Monokuma.

P-Edit: Fate push is fine, believability of posts/stances improves dramatically.

[mastina]

Because whenever someone asks why someone just naked voted them, they'll inevitably say some stupid shit like "reasons" or "not saying" or whatever.

This is Cakez's response to Monokuma's "why didn't you respond to our naked vote?". It was pretty good.

Especially in a game with power players who...do exactly that. Like me. Or I guess drealmerz, and others similarly so.

In fact depending on the timing this could even be considered a little bit of snark aimed at my way.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Mastin, can you sell me to Prism please, I need to focus on Cakez

[Nachomamma8]

I've never seen you be mislynched and you're generally a strong player so I reject this.

This seems like a Cakez-town push; he could honestly just look up mastina's recent games (would make sense, he might find DEFCON 5 aka "mastina is huge huge mislynch bait") but instead he just keeps on plugging away. I'm not sure he'd invest himself so thoroughly in mastina push if scum.

[Nachomamma8]

prism can drag himself over that finish line

[Nachomamma8]

At some point someone is going to have to sell me on Gin/Fate being town but that's going to have to happen another time. Fate gets a pass solely because of Monokuma.

P-Edit: Fate push is fine, believability of posts/stances improves dramatically.

Fate is scum or town power; he should get a pass on that if nothing else.

So you don't find any parts of the three-pronged push problematic?

[Nachomamma8]

Because I've commented on that earlier in thread and if I wasn't busy grinding on a Cakez ISO I'd probably dig back and bring it up to make chatting easier but I thought it was the first push with any real heart behind it and it sucked.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Because whenever someone asks why someone just naked voted them, they'll inevitably say some stupid shit like "reasons" or "not saying" or whatever.

This is Cakez's response to Monokuma's "why didn't you respond to our naked vote?". It was pretty good.

I have to concur. I think there is a sass there that feels like it would come from town moreso than it would come from scum.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

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