In post 968, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:The basis in why I say that is because later on he actually says he will go out of his way to prove that the post formatting is town!Karnos in Evidence A.
Evidence B is 3 quotes showing that he HEAVILY relies on using that as part of his reads as that is apparently what he is really good at, what he uses to form opinions.
So yes, I fully believe that given "LQ's special type of meta" and how he portrayed it, that he would town reading Karnos pretty hard but he didn't. He was at a null.
Spoiler: Evidence A
Spoiler: Evidence B
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EVIDENCE A, SWEETHEART
“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Here it is wrapped all in one nice pretty post.
In post 995, Lexa wrote:More importantly the question is whether LQ thought that his play matched up with his previous play or not what what reads he could draw from thatIn post 1000, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:EVIDENCE A, SWEETHEART
In post 968, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:The basis in why I say that is because later on he actually says he will go out of his way to prove that the post formatting is town!Karnos in Evidence A.
Evidence B is 3 quotes showing that he HEAVILY relies on using that as part of his reads as that is apparently what he is really good at, what he uses to form opinions.
So yes, I fully believe that given "LQ's special type of meta" and how he portrayed it, that he would town reading Karnos pretty hard but he didn't. He was at a null.
Spoiler: Evidence A
Spoiler: Evidence B“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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MASTINA HE DID A THING
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Is it weird to think I get a town read from this?
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Forget what I just said, dont say anythingIn post 1009, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Who you think is the 3rd?“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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A lynch already that was faster than expected I actually wanted to hear lq defend himself and see if he slipped anything.In post 1007, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Also I love ThinkBig so much, he's my number one-
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This was in fact...a thing.
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Well, yesterday was fun.
Let's continue the streak.
Now, who is it we'll run up?
Hmm, how 'bout LicketyQuickety?
Yes, that dude's clearly guilty.
Let's say he's aMafia Goon.
Evidence? Pfft, there's no need.
With karnos dead, we can't lose!
So let's go put him in the noose.
He hadn't posted, that's his fault.
So now we get to see the truth.
After we answer this glorious call.
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Prideth come before the fall.
Whoops, oh well, lesson learned.
Looks like we kinda dropped the ball.
Oh well, wasn't a serious burn.
(You made that way too easy.)
LicketyQuickety,, wasVanilla TownieLynched Day Two.
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All Alone,Town JOAT(Vanilla Cop, Rolecop, Fruit Vendor), was killed Night Two.
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Yuck. I absolutely hate the LQ wagon. I hate everything about it. We need to slow down today.
I am hard scum reading garmr. I hate how he derailed the Alisae wagon. I hate how we rushed it and didn't even give LQ a chance to defend himself.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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What in the hell was that all about? I go to bed confident we have scum strung up, and wake up to seeing you all go sodding nuts and lynch LQ! What the hell?!
However, we at least gained some much needed information with that lynch, along with information from before.
First, I don't see Garmr doing that as scum, and definitely not to lynch a VT, scum gain nothing by being so heavy on a town lynch, especially one that could be directed back at them. Garmr is, at least in my mind, confirmed town from this point forward.
I'm also going to say, there was definitely scum on there, it would be unlikely for that wagon to get that much steam without at least one scum giving it a nudge forward at an opportune time, which brings me to the same person who should have been yesterday's lynch...
Alisae.
100%, may as well at this point be waving a great big flag saying "scum is here, lynch me please".
What's that? You want a case? Sure, here it is:
First, everything from Day 1, which has been done to death regarding the fact he blatantly attempted to derail the karnos wagon, but to sum up:
1 - Shows intent to hammer post #680
2 - Believes karnos' fake claim, yet still says karnos is a great lynch post #690 and post #700
3 - Uses the argument that there's much more time to "hunt" day 1 post #705
The intent to hammer doesn't match with there being more time to hunt, and the believing of the claim doesn't match with him being a "great lynch". Both of these are mutually exclusive from the other.
This is a huge pile of bullshit as well. It's quite clear Alisae is ignoring the entire reason i admitted a mistake, yet continued to push him, purely to make it seem like I'm in the wrong. Evidence? Provided.In post 911, Alisae wrote:
First thing to note: They scumread Karnos but they voted LQ.In post 908, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Alisae, talk about Prana and explain that read, I'm not letting you vote thinkbig
Second thing to note: They scumread Karnos but then voted AA
Third thing to note: They finally voted Karnos.
Forth thing to note: They attack me because they think that I slipped that I knew Karnos was town when he clearly did not flip town. They were pushing a slip that wasn't a slip.
Fifth thing to note: They admit that that was a mistake but they still push me anyway.
Sixth thing to note: Where are they currently? Hiding under all the drama I'm making.
That's snipped from the end of a longer post I made where I admitted the mistae I made the night prior due to being tired, and not reading it thoroughly.In post 759, PranaDevil wrote:Alisae quite obviously wanted that wagon to dissipate and move elsewhere, I'll happily admit I cocked up royally (hey, I was at a gaming group when I read things first, then was knackered when I got home, I'll refrain from reading/posting when doing stuff or being tired in future, and you may all slap me if I deviate from this), and the push on Alisae, while a correct push, was the wrong reasoning. Alisae is scum along with karnos, and I'd be happy to lynch this way, but a karnos lynch is a huge preference as the wagon should not fall apart.
We lynch Alisae today, no ifs or buts, I'm ot letting scum get away again.
Also, EBWOP, TB, I understand your reasoning regarding Garmr getting the lynch away from Alisae, and it is something to keep in mind, but what positives does scum Garmr get from making himself a viable lynch today by being so obvious and vocal with the lynch? I don't even mind rushed lynches at times. If the scum is obvious (Alisae), we should keep scum from finding out any additional information that would lead to finding out about a power role.
Speaking of which... All Alone's only actions D1 were to vote Alisae and vote LQ, which makes me wonder if he had already used one of his roles on Alisae, and was happy to lynch LQ with the evidence provided, and come back to Alisae on a later day. It wouldn't be the correct play, (always lynch known scum) but I can see an argument for how convincing the LQ lynch was.
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Like no offense but I didn't expect lq to be a shit town.In post 1018, ThinkBig wrote:Yuck. I absolutely hate the LQ wagon. I hate everything about it. We need to slow down today.
I am hard scum reading garmr. I hate how he derailed the Alisae wagon. I hate how we rushed it and didn't even give LQ a chance to defend himself.
From my point of view he was protecting scum (karnos) and he was putting shade on me (I know i am town) and I been scum reading him from day 1 for a variety. He deserved his lynch. Maybe he will learn his lesson when he reads the spoiler just let people interact with null reads naturally. If he doesn't and he pulls that shit again I will lynch him again. Also despite me being wrong I still think LQ was working against town.
Also I fucking find it hilarious you are trying to call me fucking scum it was me who spotted karnos and it was me who fucking drove him to a lynch.
Pedit:Alisae is town I just know it prana-
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Scum is most likely In shannon,think big and/or BBt. Alisae has down worse shit as town in the past and I can see alisae doing this as town.In post 1019, PranaDevil wrote:What in the hell was that all about? I go to bed confident we have scum strung up, and wake up to seeing you all go sodding nuts and lynch LQ! What the hell?!
However, we at least gained some much needed information with that lynch, along with information from before.
First, I don't see Garmr doing that as scum, and definitely not to lynch a VT, scum gain nothing by being so heavy on a town lynch, especially one that could be directed back at them. Garmr is, at least in my mind, confirmed town from this point forward.
I'm also going to say, there was definitely scum on there, it would be unlikely for that wagon to get that much steam without at least one scum giving it a nudge forward at an opportune time, which brings me to the same person who should have been yesterday's lynch...
Alisae.
100%, may as well at this point be waving a great big flag saying "scum is here, lynch me please".
What's that? You want a case? Sure, here it is:
First, everything from Day 1, which has been done to death regarding the fact he blatantly attempted to derail the karnos wagon, but to sum up:
1 - Shows intent to hammer post #680
2 - Believes karnos' fake claim, yet still says karnos is a great lynch post #690 and post #700
3 - Uses the argument that there's much more time to "hunt" day 1 post #705
The intent to hammer doesn't match with there being more time to hunt, and the believing of the claim doesn't match with him being a "great lynch". Both of these are mutually exclusive from the other.
This is a huge pile of bullshit as well. It's quite clear Alisae is ignoring the entire reason i admitted a mistake, yet continued to push him, purely to make it seem like I'm in the wrong. Evidence? Provided.In post 911, Alisae wrote:
First thing to note: They scumread Karnos but they voted LQ.In post 908, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Alisae, talk about Prana and explain that read, I'm not letting you vote thinkbig
Second thing to note: They scumread Karnos but then voted AA
Third thing to note: They finally voted Karnos.
Forth thing to note: They attack me because they think that I slipped that I knew Karnos was town when he clearly did not flip town. They were pushing a slip that wasn't a slip.
Fifth thing to note: They admit that that was a mistake but they still push me anyway.
Sixth thing to note: Where are they currently? Hiding under all the drama I'm making.
That's snipped from the end of a longer post I made where I admitted the mistae I made the night prior due to being tired, and not reading it thoroughly.In post 759, PranaDevil wrote:Alisae quite obviously wanted that wagon to dissipate and move elsewhere, I'll happily admit I cocked up royally (hey, I was at a gaming group when I read things first, then was knackered when I got home, I'll refrain from reading/posting when doing stuff or being tired in future, and you may all slap me if I deviate from this), and the push on Alisae, while a correct push, was the wrong reasoning. Alisae is scum along with karnos, and I'd be happy to lynch this way, but a karnos lynch is a huge preference as the wagon should not fall apart.
We lynch Alisae today, no ifs or buts, I'm ot letting scum get away again.
Also, EBWOP, TB, I understand your reasoning regarding Garmr getting the lynch away from Alisae, and it is something to keep in mind, but what positives does scum Garmr get from making himself a viable lynch today by being so obvious and vocal with the lynch? I don't even mind rushed lynches at times. If the scum is obvious (Alisae), we should keep scum from finding out any additional information that would lead to finding out about a power role.
Speaking of which... All Alone's only actions D1 were to vote Alisae and vote LQ, which makes me wonder if he had already used one of his roles on Alisae, and was happy to lynch LQ with the evidence provided, and come back to Alisae on a later day. It wouldn't be the correct play, (always lynch known scum) but I can see an argument for how convincing the LQ lynch was.
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Would like to point out think bigs hammer of karnos voting behaviour is worse than alisaes.
He puts him to l-1 for a policy lynch (shitty excuse.)In post 670, ThinkBig wrote:VOTE: Karnos
L-1
<<< Yes, this was in fact L-1. This time. >>>
Policy lynch.
after making up a shit excuse about not wanting to end the day early he unvotes karnos and tries to run up prana as a counter wagon.In post 732, ThinkBig wrote:VOTE: PranaDevil
I really don't like the shades that he is attempting to throw on Alisae. His blatant misrepresentation of what Alisae was saying in order to read him as scum. Don't like that one bit.
P-edit: Excellent point, Gin.
Also at this point his defending alisae and the points his making on alisae were brought up day 1 which makes think his only shifting his veiws for people likely to be lynched.
In post 773, ThinkBig wrote:Permission to hammer?Like even through he says he scum reads karnos at this point all his language has been about him policy lynching karnos and did not provide one reason karnos was scum or one reason he agreed with.
With observation of voting behaviors every time it looked like karnos has the chance to live he jumped off the wagon. it wasn't until all alone put the final nail in the coffin did think big jump back on it seeing no other way out of voting his buddy.
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it is also possible pep is scum but I am unsure on the slot. Can we have bumps on pep or a replacement
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