Food Fight Mafia - WHO OWNS THE SCHOOL???


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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:30 am

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Besides, korlash, why the >.> ? He couldn't have blocked you; you have a result, you've said so yourself.
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:15 am

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Ok... >.> Why does him not having blocked me have anything to do with us having to know who he did block? You say it could help, how? How does knowing someone got blocked in anyway help other then to let them fake claim almost anything, targeting anyone, and still be believed?

>.> = My serious face... grrr!
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:40 am

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Korlash wrote:Ok... >.> Why does him not having blocked me have anything to do with us having to know who he did block? You say it could help, how? How does knowing someone got blocked in anyway help other then to let them fake claim almost anything, targeting anyone, and still be believed?

>.> = My serious face... grrr!
Why do you oppose it is a better question. The answer to your question above is fairly obvious. Such questions as Fonz is asking shouldnt really be discouraged. They catch liars. Often. In unexpected ways when other roles intersect and find the information to be false. At worst, asking it does no harm. When a player is being investigated and they claim to avoid being lynched the next step is to press for details. I would totally FOS you if you werent a claimed mason. I mean I just dont get you making this your contribution to the hunt, I'm sorry.
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:18 am

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Oh I'm sorry... The next time I see a player I think is scum telling a role to out themselves or possibly out others I'll just stay quite.

And I'm not a claimed mason by choice. So FoS all you want.
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:15 am

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Korlash wrote:Oh I'm sorry... The next time I see a player I think is scum telling a role to out themselves or possibly out others I'll just stay quite.

And I'm not a claimed mason by choice. So FoS all you want.
Um...Fonz is scum now because why...?

Ckillor is town now because why...?
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:21 am

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Who the hell is talking about Fonz? You need to pay more attention if your going to get all upity and insulting.

And I never called Ckillor town either. You need to start paying more attention.
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:49 pm

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Korlash wrote: Is it really necessary we know who he RBed? Other then informing us who did not make the kill last night, it seems useless.
If he is not lying, then his choices should make sense. If he is lying, it strongly suggests he is scum, which strongly suggests the ordering was by role.
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:02 pm

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Korlash wrote:Who the hell is talking about Fonz? You need to pay more attention if your going to get all upity and insulting.

And I never called Ckillor town either. You need to start paying more attention.
You need to start thinking over your posts before actually posting them. It will help you in all of your games. No joke.
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:31 pm

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Flameaxe wrote:
Korlash wrote:Who the hell is talking about Fonz? You need to pay more attention if your going to get all upity and insulting.

And I never called Ckillor town either. You need to start paying more attention.
You need to start thinking over your posts before actually posting them. It will help you in all of your games. No joke.
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:11 am

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... Ok when did we let idiots into this game? Again... If you two want to accuse me of crap you damn well better show me where and when I made such said crap.

Again, where did I call Ckillor town? Where did I say I was talking about Fonz? And where did I apparently not look over my posts?

So either answer me or stuff food down your pants.

On a side note, what's with all the hostility recently Cic? I mean I thought we were on ok terms then bam! You're all anti-Korlash all of a sudden... ;_;
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:12 am

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We're on cool terms in the real world, Kor. I like you. You're just kind of being a game goof the last little bit (in my humble opinion) so I'm poking you with my grumpy stick. In both games. But dont worry, I'd still take you to the malt shop for cherry cokes.

To answer your question, my questions were based on the inferences of your position. I dont understand why you arent following your own train of thought, except to suggest that you arent taking the game seriously at the moment. You popped in to stop Fonz from asking about ckillor's roleblocking claim. I argued that such questions are beneficial. You responded with an inference that fonz was scum doing something that might damage a power role's effectiveness. I asked you why you are assuming that fonz is the scummy one when to me he seems likely to be a town power role. And you denied that your inference to that effect was there when it clearly was.

And here we are.

Clear as mud?
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:25 am

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Cicero, are you pulling a dgb gambit?
Fonz is dead, and has been since before ckillor claimed.

I am pretty sure the repitition re saying i am fonz cant be accidental.
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:34 am

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No. it was accidental actually. I was getting this and some stuff in another game mixed up.

I am indeed an idiot. Sorry. I keep trying to sneak in posts on Christmas break while people around me scowl at me for not giving them all my attention. I should stop. Mea culpa.
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:44 am

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Flameaxe's goading is also noteworthy.
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:48 am

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>.>

*huffs and puffs*

Ok I'm better now...

Also to answer your question, it is clear as mud now, thank you. >.>

Now about those cherry cokes....
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:10 pm

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1) I am inclined to believe ckillor's claim for now - as far as I can tell, either he's telling the truth or he's made a good fakeclaim. The main factor behind my conclusion is his claimed role name + ability (role name seems to be strongly tied to role function); the flavor he's claiming is somewhat shakier than what I would like (specifically the "end the food war" agenda), but not shaky enough for me to want his lynch today.

2) Gorgon, by way of contrast, has recently jumped onto my scumdar. Gorgon, like his predecessor pickem, has offered almost no contributions to the game, to the extent that he's seriously under the radar (has he posted ANYTHING since replacing in?). In addition, lynching Gorgon as scum (especially admin scum) would also be a strong indicator that the player list theory is correct - he, like ckillor, is adjacent to Lowell on the player list, and pickem + lowell as scum would account for the fact that the number of players in the game is not divisible by 3.

Big Fat FoS of Doom: Gorgon
for being very under the radar and a good test of the player list theory.

3) Skruffs' recent behavior is doing a good job of convincing me that he's either anti-town or not reading the thread (despite the double innocent, no less). In particular, he is accusing me of not elaborating on the flavor behind gossiping mason being mason-cop
when I provided the flavor behind my role in my original claim
. Moreover, Skruffs' claim that I should not be believed because I did not bring up the player list theory until today is absolute craplogic, for two reasons: 1) revealing the specifics of the playerlist theory necessarily implied outing my mason partners, and 2) I heavily breadcrumbed the player list theory in my Day 2 posts (the "last piece of role-based information" I referred to at least once yesterday) - in fact, I explicitly pointed out that my last piece of information
would out my mason partners
, a statement that should make much more sense now that the player list theory is revealed. Finally, my belief that Nightfall was likely naive has to do with yet another piece of public information - I sincerely doubt that a mason-cop with the name Jessica Bumble would be sane, given how closely role name and role function seem to be related in this game.

Big Fat FoS of Doom: Skruffs
for tossing suspicion at a claimed mason-cop using craplogic.

4) I want Battle Mage to claim or paraphrase his role title IN HIS NEXT POST. I am NOT going to give him the benefit of the doubt - until he elaborates, I'm going to assume that he's lying scum (yes, despite my investigation result - given the way Battle Mage and Skruffs are acting, I no longer trust in my own sanity). I'm going to hold back on using my piece of cheese because at least one player has claimed dairy allergy and due to Gorgon and Skruffs looking scummy, but if Battle Mage does not clarify in a way that I find satisfactory then I will wind up using my cheese on him.

HoS: Battle Mage
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:39 pm

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Tar ... I have indeed posted since replacing - a few posts, even. It is true that I've been less than active these past few days, but that goes for all my games. I friggin' hate to have to anwer for this, but I thought it would be pretty obvious that this is a busy season for most people. I especially dislike that you should have to ask whether I've posted or not, when this is easy enough to check.

And yes, checking the list, I do see that I/pickem was next to Lowell. This means (only to me, obv) that either the theory of consecutive scum does not hold water, or Lowell's group starts with him. This weakens the theory, IMO. Especially since I agree that ckillor's role both sounds plausible and, if true, not likely to be affiliated with the soup scum.

I would, however, like to hear whom ckillor has blocked.
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:26 am

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Skruffs wrote: Flameaxe's goading is also noteworthy.
As I read through, I struck this and I have no idea what you mean. Could you please clarify?
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:49 am

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Ok i've got my rolepm. I'll paraphrase as much as i can below.

I am Gertrude Pulitzer, the librarian. I love books. I hate it when they are overdue. It is equivalent to the crime of theft.

I am A VANILLA TOWNIE. -insert win condition here-.

Here it says that i can distribute x BB notes during the day. It DOESNT say EACH day. :x

Then it says how i do so.

I cant really paraphrase any more without breaching the rules. If its all the same, it would be nice for Skruffs to do the same with his role pm. I'm all for equality, and it might establish whether we really do have stark differences in our role pms.

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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:25 am

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Tar:

Your 'investigation' on me, or bm, doesn't have any facts behind it. Even if you are naive, there is still the proven innocent on me from fonz.

Does your name suggest you are also likely naive?


My big question for you is, we knew lowell's alignment, we knew fonz had claimed any innocent on me, we knew you claimed an inn on bm. Knowing that, and with your theory of scum being next to scum, why didn't you target ckillor?

Why 'waste' any invest. on someone who was already cleared? Its unlikely i would have been lynched, it was likely i would show up town, and if you dont believe in the '1-scum-per-three' theory, but do believe in the 'like-next-to-like' theory, then you were again wasting your investgation; you already targetted someone in my 'trio'.


I would be an excellent target for a fake claiming cop, though, since i'm 'half cleared' already.

Lastly, you were a likely target for nk last night. Apparently, if the 'trio' thing is true, than scum (knowing that), figured that your partners were on either side of you. That explains, maybe, why he was targetted last night, which does suggest that gorgon/ckillor/etc might be a goodlynch.



In all your blustering, you avoided: why did you think that 1/3 from every trio was scum?
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:27 am

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And ckillor doesn't have to reveal who he blocked last night, just the night that we only had 2 kills would be fine by me.
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:31 pm

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Skruffs wrote: I would be an excellent target for a fake claiming cop, though, since i'm 'half cleared' already.
How are you half cleared already?
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:36 pm

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Korlash wrote:
Skruffs wrote: I would be an excellent target for a fake claiming cop, though, since i'm 'half cleared' already.
How are you half cleared already?
Fonz is dead, and was revealed as cafeteria cop. Fonz claimed innocent on Skruffs. Thus, half cleared.
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:27 pm

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Interesting... I'll have to file that away into useful stuff to know...

BTW Flame. Could you explain your 1332 post? I'm really very interested in what you meant by it.
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:17 pm

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