Mini 532: Yaw's Split Open Mafia: (Game over)

kabenon007 · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:50 pm

Out of sheer curiousity, may I ask why you associate me with the mafia?

SensFan · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:00 am

mikeburnfire wrote:\Sensfan, just because you're the role opener (I believe your claim, as you haven't been counter-claimed) doesn't mean you're not scum/SK.

Right, but if I'm opening roles, I'm not killing as a scum.

mikeburnfire · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:07 am

kabenon007 wrote:Out of sheer curiousity, may I ask why you associate me with the mafia?

Because whoever is the mason-turned-roleblocker is almost definitely the last scum, and I see instances of masonry between you and Zhao on Day 1. Specifically, when he asks for your opinion on things.

SensFan wrote:
mikeburnfire wrote:\Sensfan, just because you're the role opener (I believe your claim, as you haven't been counter-claimed) doesn't mean you're not scum/SK.
Right, but if I'm opening roles, I'm not killing as a scum.

Is that how it works?

mod: Can a lone Mafia Roleblocker kill and roleblock in the same night? Likewise, could a Serial Killer Role Opener kill and open a role in the same night?

As it says in the front post, a Serial Killer can kill and use his/her role.

bird1111 · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:11 am

Vote Count:

Not voting (7): Holy, mikeburnfire, Drunken Piper, Thanatos, SensFan, kabenon007, Skruffs

With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch

Thanatos · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:27 am

Skruffs wrote:It's very unlikely you are the role opener: MBF was traded his role as RoleBlocker for a mason the night the Mason was killed, right? Isn't it therefore most likely (since the switcher didn't trade after that) that the roleblocker is the last mafia?

Isn't that what logic dictates?

The roleblocker is mafia.

I was blocked last night.

kabenon007 · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:34 am

So asking for someone else's opinion equals mason? That doesn't really make much sense. I've never played with or as a mason, so I'm not an expert on such things, but it seems that masons would act more like bussing buddies almost, trying to keep their association from the scum. It doesn't seem smart to simply ask your other mason out in the open thread.

mikeburnfire · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:55 am

The only people who are still alive that Zhao could have 'bussed' are Sensfan and Holy. Sensfan is not the mason, and the confrontation between Holy was far too strong to be bussing. He didn't show a connection to anybody else except for you. When OTM attacked you, he defended you. Your name comes up a lot in his posts, but never under suspicion.

mikeburnfire · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:01 am

Also, I looked at the main page as the mod directed me. It says that a lone scum cannot take any other night action (EG roleblocking) if they are killing but an SK can. So while you can prove that you're not scum by using your role, you can't prove that you're not the SK.

Skruffs · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:07 pm

That means you could be the SK, too, right MBF?
So basically tehg SK has to be hunted down the old fashioned way, with logic, intuition, and perception.

I forget what you claimed to be Thanatos.

mikeburnfire · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:44 pm

How can you forget what Thantos claimed? He's the reason we lynched Phate yesterday!

Thanatos · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:28 pm

mikeburnfire wrote:How can you forget what Thantos claimed? He's the reason we lynched Phate yesterday!

You're welcome, by the way.

Holy · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:33 pm

XD
I can't believe this, I'm still safe and sound.
I thought the scum would save for next me as a scapegoat, but still the SK would kill me (am I not enough scummy yesterday for the SK, lol), the SK prefers the doc (scum doc, phew!). I'm innocents though.

Let me read first, please this time don't be so hasty MBF... ;_;

Holy · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:34 pm

*save me for next

Holy · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:27 pm

Ok, done re-read only from Day 2.

Everyone still might be an SK.

I've re-analyze kabenon007, he might be a scum. He bit my early craplogic on Day 2. He was hesitant to unvote Phate and vote QB, 'cause the air seems wins the Phate lynch, although he said he can see where the logic I was presented could lead. While I honestly, saw a hole in it.

Unvote. Vote: kabenon007.

Drunken Piper · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:17 am

putting down my mead,
and going to reread.

Thanatos · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:30 am

Wow, how did I miss QB being mafia.

Well, looks like I was exactly right. QB was an attempt to make himself look good.

He was the one who I investigated, BTW, so it doesn't really matter that I was RBed, and it gives us a decent hint We all went through mass claims, so, assuming they wern't lying...we may be able to deduce to a decent degree who the RB might be, and work out the last scum or SK from that.

mikeburnfire · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:43 am

Well, we know that Sensfan is the role opener, since he's unclaimed, and you're the cop. And since it's pretty obvious that Phate switched the scum's role with mine, it pretty much confirms that I'm telling the truth about being a mason. That leaves kabenon, Skruffs, Holy, or Piper as the last scum. And I've said before that Zhao and Holy were too confrontational to just be bussing, so I don't consider her a plausible scum, leaving just Piper, Skruffs, or kabenon. I've picked kabenon for reasons I've already said.

And I think Holy is the SK.

kabenon007 · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:32 pm

You forget, MBF, Sensfan could still be scum as role opener.

mikeburnfire · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:55 pm

Disagree. I am almost certain that the last scum is a roleblocker, not a roleopener.

kabenon007 · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:57 pm

Oh I forgot that that happened. My mistake.

SensFan · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:19 pm

Kabenon, I will prove tonight that I am not the scum, at least. Unfortunately, I cant prove I'm not SK.

Holy · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:24 am

The minute when QB said his role, I was intensely alarmed, but that day has passed. And now I'm pretty sure kabenon007 is the last scum.

@MBF: What made you think that I'm the SK?

mikeburnfire · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:51 am

Firstly, when we had two claimed cops, you wanted to lynch QB to test Phate. This wasn't

suspicious

per se, but it was definitely a bad play. You also speculate that we have a scum doctor at this point.

Then, when QB revealed himself to be the doctor, you kept trying to get us to lynch him instead of Phate, either because you still want to test Phate, or because possibility of a scumdoctor was a bigger threat to you.

After the QB lynch, you showed surprise that QB was the scumdoctor. Either you are faking surprise here, or you legitimately didn't believe that QB was scum, which means that you continuously were trying to get a TOWN doctor lynched yesterday.

The minute when QB said his role, I was intensely alarmed,

Actually, you kept trying to get him lynched, and then said that your post was "optimistic".

Skruffs · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:42 am

I wasn't on the phate wagon: I had replaced in near the end of the day an haven't exactly got my bearings yet on what everyone does or exacvtly how it works...

So my guess, based on your reaction is that he's a claimed cop, yes?

Holy · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:11 am

@MBF:
When we had two claimed cops, I still didn't know who actually said the truth. Because Than didn't consider that might be a scum-doc, he was so confident came out that early. I speculate about a scum-doctor, because that probability is there.

And when QB revealed himself to be the doctor, I immediately suspect him as scum, because a townie-doc won't reveal himself that early (note: he wasn't on lynch danger when claimed) because the scum definitely will murder a townie-doc.

On my last post on Day 2, I was pretty sure that QB definitely is scum, at that time Day 2 is still early and I'm still up with more discussion, but you were so hasty and dropped a hammer. Honestly, after QB claimed which made me really suspect him, I immediately doubt Phate's innocents but I was too tired that time (see my 2 last posts if I'm not mistaken). To avoid further confusion on the next game day (before I go to sleep that day), actually I already consider a Phate's lynch but I didn't have a chance because of your hasty hammer.