The Hobbit Mafia - GAME OVER

Internet Stranger · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:43 am

I have nothing more to add rather than my approval of the Jediknight bandwagon, but I was scrutiny thrown at Coolbot and Korais tomorrow.

Yaw · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:04 am

Looks like people are just a little too eager to finish this off.

Unvote: Jediknight

I don't believe him, but we shouldn't go to night without hearing from everyone, and this takes off a bit of the pressure. Chaotic_diablo, Ibanez, indentureddjinn, Kommandant, NanookTheWolf, Shivan_Dragon, and Uraj need to get their asses in here. (Although it should be noted that Shivan_Dragon is on vacation at the moment until early next week.)

the silent speaker · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:19 am

Not much point in waiting for Nanook. He's dead, and was Bert the troll.

Yaw · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:28 am

Oops. Was wondering if I forgot someone that way. This is what happens when I don't double-check my count against the front post.

The other six are still valid lurkers, though.

jediknight · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:02 am

So much I would like to say about you Yaw but I guess that I should play nice. It is interesting that you pushed the lynch to its limit and when I made a legitimate complaint about being bandwagoned you got behind slowing it. That's pretty scummy to me.

All I can say is that Galion is my role. Whether you think its lame, weak, or whatever fine. I can only go with what I was told. I agree that being a one shot doctor role for all dwarves would have been much better. But I didn't get to make that decision. It also didn't tell me Thorin's role...just that I could protect him if the conditions were met.

All in all, Yaw and Corsato seem to be the most scummy in my eyes. Or at least you've ran the best classic bandwagon I have ever seen....course I don't have alot of experience to go on!

MMCL · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:26 am

So far I see three people that strike me as curious...

jediknight - seems to be playing like a newbie - complete with the over-eagerness... taking this into account I still don't see a solid defence from him, rather pushing away accusations with the "I know, but what about person X..." routine.

IS - confuses the hell out of me but due to my non-understanding of him, I have relied on my knowledge of him from chat mafia. His style is confusing no matter how he plays - and in this game, so far I am seeing 'things' that remind me of him as an SK in chat mafia... can't quite place it though.... maybe "it's just a feeling" as he would say...

Yaw - Im so not sure about Yaw; so far but his unvote seems almost staged. The old addage keep your friends close and your enemies closer would apply until I've made up my mind.

All in all, Im happy with my vote on jediknight.

Gaspode · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:17 am

My vote is definitely staying on Jedi. You can't defend yourself by putting words in our mouths and then telling us why those words don't make sense. That's what you've been doing; there have been too many to point out each one.

Also, your suspicions of Yaw don't make much sense. As far as I can tell, Yaw still wants to lynch you. He just wants everyone else to comment so we have more to go on tomorrow.

IS' theories are definitely not a cop claim (as Mr. Flay suggested), but they do deserve to be checked out. We should take a closer look at those two players tomorrow if a better candidate doesn't show up first.

Lurkers, speak up!

Argoti · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:25 am

My vote stays. Really weak claims do not an innocent make.

Yaw's wanting the lurkers to speak up is great... but they probably need a bit of pressure first.

Yaw · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:27 am

Actually, those I identified haven't said anything since day broke. They don't need pressure. They need a mod prod or replacement.

drummer97531 · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:29 am

Sorry I missed a day, I'm paying for it trying to catch up.

Unvote:Argoti

I have nothing there.

Jedi wrote:I never said anything about a bandwagon... Drummer was the one that mentioned that and I believe it was tongue in cheek. Perhaps Drummer can shed some light on why he felt it necessary to use me and bandwagon in the same sentence.

This one is easy. I missed your unvote of Argoti and thought I was joining the bandwagon.

I also doubt the drunk elf thing. VERY unlikely.

As for IS, he's ALWAYS like that. There is a logic to his playing style.

I'd be voting JediKnight, but if we want to hear from everyone first...

mikehart · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:14 pm

Vote Count

jediknight

( 10 ) -

Corsato, coolbot, Jaylen, MMCL, Gaspode, Argoti, Internet Stranger, the silent speaker, Tigris, Rick

Flying Dutchman

( 2 ) -

Lord Gurgi, Murk

Lord Gurgi

( 1 ) -

jediknight

Yaw

( 1 ) -

korais666

( 3 ) -

Tigris, Mr. Flay, thesilentspeaker

mikehart · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:26 pm

lurker status: Shivan Dragon - on vacation until sat or sunday. my fault he wasnt around. forgot to get a temp replacement; Ibanez - modprodded; indentureddjinn - posted on Tue saying will poast soon; Kommandant - will talk to next time i see him.; Uraj - posted today. the other two arent in the game.

jediknight · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:00 pm

I hate to say this...but nothing is going to change anyone's minds... and it is bad form I suppose in a game as well but I am new and stupid and starting tomorrow I won't be around. Once I get back I will anxiously watch for the conclusion. Plus I kinda wanna see my lynch scene before I leave! I hope my getting bandwagoned is of help to someone!

So...pull the trigger. After all this is over I wanna know who was responsible for real...you got skills or lucky. I don't think I telegraphed it that bad...or at least what everyone thinks!

Internet Stranger · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:12 pm

Again, nothing to add, other than a reminder to check into Coolbot and Korais tomorrow after we lynch off Jediknight here.

korais666 · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:07 pm

Flay: We've only had one night, how could IS possibly be so sure of at least 3 people being guilty, even if he was a cop?

Anyways, sorry if it appears that I've been lurking. I posted *yesterday*, but apparently once a day is not enough when there's this many people and you need to get noticed.

The Gallion thing seems a bit "out there", and if he's not already dead tomorrow after hearing from the last few people, I'll add my vote.

jediknight · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:11 pm

be careful kora...you get noticed for posting too much too!

Internet Stranger · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:35 pm

He is already noticed.

Mr. Flay · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:04 pm

I still don't see why IS gets a pass. Granted, I've never played with him before, but he's essentially fingered 3 different people (dragonmaker, coolbot, and korais) for no visible reasons, votes for jediknight "just to end the day" when we haven't even heard from everyone, and seems to have some sort of feud with Yaw. He's even got people asking him who they should vote for, but not why (except Yaw). I'd vote for him, but he's bulletproof today, and then there's this...

Korais666 wrote:

Flay: We've only had one night, how could IS possibly be so sure of at least 3 people being guilty, even if he was a cop?

I didn't say he was sure of three people, I said there were ways to be sure someone is guilty. "sortamaybeevilbutmaybenot" is a townie vote, or a scum vote, IMO. My vote stands, but jediknight's looking better all the time.

Murk · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:05 pm

korais666 wrote:Flay: We've only had one night, how could IS possibly be so sure of at least 3 people being guilty, even if he was a cop?

I hope IS can give us some clearity about that, cuz posting wrong acusations is a scummy thing

Internet Stranger · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:07 pm

Dragonmaster was just a starter vote, I hold no opinion on him as of yet.

Flying Dutchman · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:15 am

Vote: jediknight

, at least we'll get some info and people have had enough time to speak up.

Yaw · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:45 am

Still waiting. I missed dragonmaster on my original list -- he hasn't posted yet either.

Mr. Flay wrote:I still don't see why IS gets a pass. Granted, I've never played with him before, but he's essentially fingered 3 different people (dragonmaker, coolbot, and korais) for no visible reasons, votes for jediknight "just to end the day" when we haven't even heard from everyone, and seems to have some sort of feud with Yaw. He's even got people asking him who they should vote for, but not why (except Yaw). I'd vote for him, but he's bulletproof today, and then there's this...

It's IS. There's really no other explanation. He

always

acts this way, no matter what role he's in. This means we need to look for more subtle stuff if we want to figure out if he's scum. My personal plan is to ignore him for the most part, point out where he's wrong, and wait for a cop to figure out if he's scum or not. I figure somebody's got to investigate him sooner or later, and even Jeep admits that when he's a cop he'll waste an investigation on IS. The guy's just that good at disguising his role.

On the other hand, if he's not scum, he is worth listening to. He has rather innovative ways of catching scum, and is one of the better players at it. He's also great at poisoning the well when catching scum, as you can imagine -- he'll point out someone as scum correctly, without giving any reason to believe him.

Thus is the saga of IS.

Uraj45 · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:09 am

Allright here's what I have to say about things.
I'm willing to put my vote on jediknight although I won't do it yet so that everyone on your list can talk. The behavior doesen't spark much suspicion in me really but the claim is just rediculous. Even if he's not scum, we don't lose too much in lynching him. It's pretty good bet.
About IS: yes,he's good at that but mostly because of the reactions he gets from his unusual voting style. It's not as if he knows when he makes his first vote. Secondly, he's often wrong as well and dangerous as scum. Listen to him, but don't follow him blindly.

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:11 pm

Jedi, just save us time and claim.

CoolBot · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:37 pm

psst-

Jediknight wrote:I'm Galion the Butler. If I target Thorin Oakenshield on the same night that he gets targetted by scum then he is basically not at home because he is in the dungeon. Then, apparently I push him down the river like in the book... Never to be targetted again... So yes...I am a drunken elf that can't tell full casks from empty ones.