Mini #534 - Vegetable Mafia (Game Over!)

[Patrick]

Votecount

Crub (1) -- destructor
Oman (2) -- Bookitty, soupfly
destructor (1) -- WhoMe?
soupfly (3) -- gorckat, Phate, thedragonsprincess

Not voting: Crub, Oman
9 alive, 5 to lynch.

[destructor]

I feel it's likely that there would be a scum within a list of any 4 randomly chosen people left

Yeah, but like I said before, I think the unambiguous claims (non-fruit) are less likely to be scum. It gives us a place to start.

Also this whole fruit argument is crazy, it's confirmed that at least 2 townspeople are fruit, how does that make it any more likely that both the scum are fruit?

Which two townies are confirmed fruits?

I'm totally willing to join the soupfly wagon for reasons stated (except the one I quoted below) and others I may reveal later.

3) "the NK" (think tank)...not "one of the NKs"? That seems like you slipped letting on a personal involvement in think's death

This is semantics and is almost as much a reach as the 's' argument. Points 1 and 2 you raise were good enough to base a vote on. Was 3 really worth bringing up?

[destructor]

Vote: soupfly

[destructor]

Dammit.

Unvote
Vote: soupfly

hehe

[destructor]

Apologies for the quadruple post.

Hmm, I didn't realise I'd just put him at L-1, so I'm going to unvote until he responds. My vote is on him in spirit.

Unvote

soupfly, what do you have to say?

[Crub]

Also this whole fruit argument is crazy, it's confirmed that at least 2 townspeople are fruit, how does that make it any more likely that both the scum are fruit?

Which two townies are confirmed fruits?

Considering there are 4 fruits and only 2 scum then at least 2 townies are confirmed fruits.

[destructor]

Should I be putting my vote back on you? How do you know there are only 2 scum left?

[Crub]

It's a 12 person mini I'm assuming theres 3 scum just like in every other 12 person game I've played.

Either way my point about some of the fruit being town still holds.

[gorckat]

This is semantics and is almost as much a reach as the 's' argument. Points 1 and 2 you raise were good enough to base a vote on. Was 3 really worth bringing up?

A borderline semantics thing would be "if I was town, would I have done X" or something like that. What soup said is more significant- it implies an involvement in selecting think.

[destructor]

If it weren't for the extra night kill I might agree, but I wouldn't have said it with so much confidence.

[destructor]

ninja'd
That last post was for Crub.

gorckat, I don't really agree. Reading his post in the context of the discussion, the "leek" thing, makes it pretty clear what he was referring to. It's still sounding like a reach to me. But again, points 1 and 2 are good and soup needs to reply to them.

[Crub]

It wasn't confidence, I just don't think there's a situation where there isn't 2 scum left.

[destructor]

The extra night kill makes me think that we've either got a SK or a Vig. If it's a SK, I feel like more than 3 mafia would be unbalanced. If it's a Vig, I could see a mafia of 4, unless the Godfather had NK-immunity.

So in either case, it's a possibility that there are 3 scum left. I don't think we should be ruling it out so soon.

[Crub]

4 mafia in a 12 player game? Are you serious? If we mislynched day 1 we'd be in LYLO right now. That would be way overbalanced for the mafia.

3 mafia + SK is possible, I wasn't thinking about the SK when I was talking about the fruit though.

Anyway even taking this into account there is still at least 1 townie that's a fruit.

[soupfly]

since i was just at L-1 i think i'll claim before some opportunistic scum does me in.

i am the other

mason

. i am y's mason partner.

i left a bread crumb for Y in post 469:

the ryan wagon, i'm not so sure. my inclination is townie. i think our scum are flying under the radar.

yiam!

YIAM = Y Is A Mason

i'd spoken to y about leaving a similar crumb for me during N1 but he got killed so there was none. we did not speak before the game.

in any case the bread crumb is good enough to confirm me also now that Y is dead because i posted that on day 1 where i had no way of knowing that he was a mason unless i am indeed his partner.

[destructor]

I'll buy that.

Vote: WhoMe?

Based on flavour and the opportunism I picked up earlier. I thought one of soupfly or WhoMe was scum.

[WhoMe?]

soupfly - I would have bought your claim without the crumb. When Y (Cauliflower) came up mason, you were the one i had pegged as most likely to be his partner due to your claim of broccoli. They were the most similar veggies on the list.

[thedragonsprincess]

I believe soupfly's claim. Although a risky move to make, I understand his reasoning. and with that

unvote

[Phate]

I believe it, and I think it was the right play.

I'm totally willing to join the soupfly wagon for reasons stated (except the one I quoted below) and others I may reveal later.

"Who, him? Scum? Sure. Also, I'm going to leave the door open to claim cop later if need be."

Unvote

Vote: destructor

Incidentally, in light of my suddenly being eligible to mod: Due to crosskills, a 3p mafia and an SK might actually be easier for town than just the mafia. Discuss.

[gorckat]

unvote

Need to re-read a little to figure out where to go, then.

[Crub]

"Who, him? Scum? Sure. Also, I'm going to leave the door open to claim cop later if need be."

Did you miss this?

I'm not the cop.

[WhoMe?]

OK guys, I'm going to continue with my earlier idea about the split between roast dinner veggies, and others

claims we can be sure of (ie deadies) + soupfly + me (It's my list, I can be sure of me even if you can't)

Carrot - ryan
Cauliflower - Y
Leek - thinktank

Broccoli - soupfly
Cabage - WhoMe?

These are all vegetables you could eat with a roast dinner as is
Green Beans - Oman
Pea - Bookitty
Brussel Sprout - destructor


which leaves

FOS
cucumber - tdp
lettuce - phate
Green pepper - gorckat

unvote vote gorckat

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[Crub]

lulz, I feel left out

Just because you've never had roasted cucumber and capsicum doesn't mean we should be limited by your culinary experiences.

Fos: WhoMe?

Why are you trying to limit the towns choices?

[WhoMe?]

sorry for leaving you out, you were on my paper list, i just mucked up whilst typing.

Spinach - Crub is on my 'good' list

[WhoMe?]

lulz, I feel left out

Just because you've never had roasted cucumber and capsicum doesn't mean we should be limited by your culinary experiences.

Fos: WhoMe?

Why are you trying to limit the towns choices?

The criteria is not whetehr a veg can be roasted. I have in fact eaten roast capsicum, but as part of a pasta meal, not as part of a Sunday roast, ie Roast Beef with all the trimmings etc. My list stands, of you want to attack me for it, go ahead.