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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:30 am

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Eh, you answered the first question but not the second.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:11 am

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Oh, but I have! I answered it in my "brawl" with Mizzy.

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Flameaxe wrote:Mizzy: Hate ya' too! :)
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:44 am

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Mispeled wrote:
Flameaxe wrote:Shanba - T
Mispeled - TN
SerMirth - N
What do these letters stand for?
T is town. Figure out the rest.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:46 am

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Almost every post is not too helpful.

Meh. I don't think this line of questioning is particularly fruitful.

Where are Atticus/Tinvision?
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:47 am

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oh, Atticus has posted today.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:47 am

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Sometimes the truth isn't terribly helpful, and I can't fight truth.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:47 am

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And Tinvision yesterday. Reading is tech.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:52 am

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Indeed.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:58 am

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Shanba wrote:And Tinvision yesterday. Reading is tech.
Yes, but they haven't posted anything of content, really...hoping to see some, soon :)
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:17 am

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I didnt just follow that post. I requested post numbers to reinforce the points, and never got them. I then looked back myself, saw that the points being made were true, and cast my vote. The connection to proven scum is the best evidence in this game thus far.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:17 pm

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Reading through a tad more, (Yes, Reading hard, I slow.) I'm thinking that my vote on Aimee (Dean Harper) was probably not well placed. It was the only thing I had to go on though. Her lurking so much does not seem like something scum would do, especially paired with the massive amounts of hypocrisy. (reverse Logic? dunno)

But she was the cop. And now this makes sense!

Mizzy (around pages 31-32) interests me. But I don't think she's scum. I think the way she plays is a bit naive, (what the heck is a code for an umlaut?) and that she cuts flameaxe way too much slack.

(started skimming after that end of day part)

Okay. I'm done being off the site. I'm here (to help.)

Reading through all this information, I'll have to do some little spotreading to get some facts straight, and I'll have to think this over.

A (hopefully) conclusive post cometh (from me) tomorrow.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:32 pm

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Alright..well I have a few more questions for Mispeled-

Why come in without reading and join the bandwagon? What's your logic behind that? (even if you did check to make sure you weren't hammering)
Mispeled wrote:The only way to figure out if DH has reverse results (guilty result on innocent player and innocent result on guilty player) is if we can find someone who is guaranteed guilty result (i.e. scum or miller).
Kind of unhelpful comment. What, we're gonna be like "ok which scum wants to volunteer to be investigated tonight?"

On your suspicions that Kabenon is acting like scum with Flameaxe - you said it didn't work the other way around, what do you mean by that?
Also, if that was your initial suspicion..does it still stand? Who is your top suspicion at this time?

--
More thoughts typed out on notepad as I read through a little bit

I also just decided that maybe we should be looking through kab's posts, since he is confirmed scum and all.

So, here's what I got from that:
-waffling suspicion on dusterhan (confirmed town)
-supports destructor(town) vs. tinvision
-soft-supports atticus' suspicion on Nirp (becomes Shanba)
-Sephiroth notices Kab's inconsistencies
-Sides with Seph on CKD, gives CKD HOS
-Tells SilverPhoenix(now Flameaxe) to post, but it seems off to me
-Votes CKD (confirmed town)
-Says it's "obvious" Seph or CKD are scum
-Defends self against Shanba, including a backpedal of when he said Seph is "obviously" scum
-Primary suspect bcomes Sephiroth
-makes a rather large post against Aimee and votes her (Aimee = DH = confirmed town)
-says TinVision is hard to figure out whether he is scummy or not
-Thinks shanba is town (trying to buddy up and get out of the way of questioning?)

oook well that actually doesn't yield as much as I would have liked because the majority of people he went after turned up dead and town. :-/

If I just do a simple "who he supported/against" analysis for those who are alive, I get this for my "list":
Seph = probably town
Shanba =probably town

woo. Yeah I just wasted like 20 minutes of my life. oh well lol

I'll have to take more time later (tomorrow I hope?) to see how others interacted with Kab because I don't see Kab signaling scum buddies just from Kab-only view, but maybe how they interacted with him will be telling in that way.

There is a discrepancy over TinVision since earlier kab was trying to say that destructor's argument against Tin is correct, and then later says that the TinVision hype isn't warranted.

Also, I'm unsure about this Kab-Flameaxe relationship. Kab's post telling SilverPhoenix to post struck me as kind of odd, like he's telling a scumbuddy to help him out...and this was before I went back and checked that SP becomes Flameaxe. Then with the off-hand comment Kab made towards Flameaxe (which Mispeled pointed out)..I'm a little suspicious here. However, I need to read all that in context of the rest of the posts around it (again, tomorrow hopefully)

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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:25 pm

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SeraphicMirth wrote:Why come in without reading and join the bandwagon? What's your logic behind that? (even if you did check to make sure you weren't hammering)
There was no logic. It was pretty hilarious, though, wasn't it?
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:33 pm

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Clicked submit before I meant to...
SeraphicMirth wrote:
Mispeled wrote:The only way to figure out if DH has reverse results (guilty result on innocent player and innocent result on guilty player) is if we can find someone who is guaranteed guilty result (i.e. scum or miller).
Kind of unhelpful comment. What, we're gonna be like "ok which scum wants to volunteer to be investigated tonight?"
Yeah, I was being captain obvious. Though I thought it might have been worth trying if someone had claimed to be miller.
On your suspicions that Kabenon is acting like scum with Flameaxe - you said it didn't work the other way around, what do you mean by that?
Just that
Flameaxe
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Kabenon
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Also, if that was your initial suspicion..does it still stand? Who is your top suspicion at this time?
It still stands to a point - though it's not an extremely strong case to begin with.

I'm a bit suspicious of the lurking/LOA'ing people like TinVision and Atticus, but I haven't read the rest of the thread since I first joined. I'm a bit suspicious of Flameaxe, but not too worried.

I'm hoping to do a bit of rereading over the weekend to get a better look at TV, Atticus, and Sephiroth.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:03 pm

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I suck at drawing conclusions. Needs more spot checking...
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:29 am

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Reading kabenon is dificult, considering that for the most of the game he seemed concentrated on Aimee who is dead and a cop... so I'll just post my opinions of people for now. Going down the order as on the first post.

Mispeled - His predecessors were largely absent, and he's not said much yet. But I actually found vamp a little suspicious, and I might go with a final conclusion of... Kind of scummy.

Flameaxe - Umm, all he's done is be an asshat. But SilverPhoenix played well, but not much, and I'd go with probably more town at this point.

SeraphicMirth - Both her and her predecessor are talkative, and my conclusion on her is actually more scum than town. Joost always placed kab as a possible scum, but never seemed to really want to place much suspicions on him.

Mizzy - I think she's strange but not particularly scummy, but she claims that she is indeed experienced, which confuses me, based on the strangeness of her playstyle so far. I'd say more likely town than scum.

Sephiroth - Plays forcefully, but I don't know how many scum would fight so unstoppingly with a townie so early in the game.

Shanba - scumhunts well, no read either way.

-TinVision- - It seems the only reason he was ever suspected was for his "crazy" random votes. Which I didn't think were that crazy.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:22 am

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I guess I can respond to get this topic going a bit more..IDK where everyone went.
So, do you have anything more specific that gives you a scummy vibe about me? Other than...I'm talkative??
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:38 pm

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Not you, joost. Joost always seemed to keep a careful distance from kab, but never seemed to place direct suspicion on him. You, however, appear perfectly town, so I remain indecisive. Decisions are, cripplingly, one of my weak points.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:19 pm

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Vote Count
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Mispeled (2): Shanba, Sephiroth
Mizzy (1): Flameaxe

not voting (5): -TinVision-, SeraphicMirth, Mispeled, Atticus, Mizzy

Five to lynch.

Prodding Shanba, Sephiroth, Flameaxe, -TinVision-, Mispeled, and Mizzy.

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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:22 pm

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He lied, he never prodded me.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:46 am

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Atticus: What did you think of my case on mispeled?
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:07 am

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Mispeled's defenses/answers to Seraph bug me...they seem very empty of actual content or valid defense. He says she's suspicious, but doesn't actually ask anything or do anything about his suspicions.
Mispeled wrote:There was no logic. It was pretty hilarious, though, wasn't it?
No, it wasn't. It was incredibly scummy and unhelpful. But I pointed that out, earlier, and no one really cared.
Mispeled wrote:Just that Flameaxe wasn't doing anything to act like he was scum with Kabenon, even if Kabenon was acting a bit like he was scum with Flameaxe.
Flameaxe hasn't acted like he's anything with anyone. So, bit of a moot point.
Mispeled wrote:I'm a bit suspicious of the lurking/LOA'ing people like TinVision and Atticus, but I haven't read the rest of the thread since I first joined. I'm a bit suspicious of Flameaxe, but not too worried.
Yes, well, lurkers/LOA people are easy targets for lazy people. Wait, you replaced in and you didn't bother to read the thread?! Could you maybe do that, please?

I didn't like the wagon when it first presented, but now I'm seeing what Shanba was saying and then some.

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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:07 am

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Flameaxe hasn't acted like he's anything with anyone. So, bit of a moot point.
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What if I'm....not anything....with anyone?
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:31 am

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my mispeled vote stands.
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