Open 61 - Mountainous Multiball (Game Over!) before 551

[DoctorJimmy]

Role claims are pretty much meaningless in a mountainous game...

[Killah Nine]

To be honest yo, I could see where that brotha armlx is coming from when he makes his comment about farside22. If you read through the thread, farside22 has switched her vote no less than three times always making sure that she's the second vote of the bunch. She did it on page 1 against Greasy after he was random voted, she did it on page 3 against Rosso Carne after he had gotten one vote from me, and she did it on Page 6 against armlx after OMGML did it against him. I don't know if I agree with him saying that she's hoping a wagon spirals out of control, but I think it's something at least worth noting about her play so far.

I could see where the armlx people are coming from too though because at first the brotha just wanted to talk about the game set-up and then when the GS wagon got some strength, he decided to vote as well without previously providing any input about any of the players.

I still feel like Greasy is the scummiest though. He won't even answer the questions we've asked him and now he's role claiming when there's only two possible roles anyway: town or scum. It's not like there's any special roles in this game. So my vote stays on him.

[Adel]

votecount as of post 176

with 12 alive, 7 will lynch before deadline

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¬Greasy Spot

: 4 :DoctorJimmy, Killah Nine, armlx, Phate

armlx

: 3 : OhGodMyLife, farside22, Greasy Spot

timmytuttut88

: 1 : Thorbjorn

not voting

: 4 :angelmouse, oEJo, Rosso Carne, timmytuttut88

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Day 1's deadline is February 19

[Greasy Spot]

@ oEJo: Back in Post #131 I fingered Phate and armix. At present I see them as the highest on my scum list.

[timmytuttut31]

@ oEJo: Back in Post #131 I fingered Phate and armix. At present I see them as the highest on my scum list.

why phate?

[oEJo]

That's it?
Why those two?

[farside22]

Here's the deal. I will role claim. I am a Townie. This could help the town if you let it. The mafia now knows I am a townie and will be a target for a night kill if I am not lynched. I am telling you this so as a town you can use this lynch vote to vote a mafia member out. If it doesn't work and the town is not happy, you may vote me out in Day 2 and I won't try to stop you.

First of all there is only town or scum. Second you have no clue who the scum are going to target. Saying oh I'll be dead in the morning because of this claim is by far the most dumbest thing to say. The scum know who there scum buddy is then just have no clue who the second group of scum is.
HEY MAFIA: will you please raise your hand so we know who to lynch??


Yeah that aint happening.

Unvote: Vote: Greasy Spot

[armlx]

I'm not going to hammer GS. I still have issues with armix for his comment.

FOS Farside

. Rallied on GS, jumped off to rally on Rosso, now jumping off to rally again. Doing lots of latching on to votes (always 2nd on wagon very shortly after).

Later he states a 2nd vote is not a bandwagon, but he thinks it odd I'm the 2nd vote against someone.
I am trying to get reactions to why people are doing what they are doing that is how you find scum. Not by following a bandwagon.

It appears to me you keep trying to build on starting wagons in the hopes one spirals out of control. Hence the FOS.

If she wanted to be on a wagon that was spiraling out of control, why wouldn't she just tack her vote onto the GS wagon with no explanation? Oh wait, thats what YOU did.

Hardly. Jumping on the GS wagon without following valid reasoning would be the worst thing for scum to do. It's a lot easier for them to divert the attention from him today and just follow up on the suspicions from D1 on D2 or 3.

[armlx]

Wow, I didn't even read the last post in the thread before my last response.

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!

Unvote, Vote Farside

[farside22]

Wow, I didn't even read the last post in the thread before my last response.

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!

Unvote, Vote Farside

Just because I think your comments about my 2 vote is BS and you are trying to throw suspicioun at me for later. I call OMGUS on you. I made a point with GS if you actually read things instead of pointing fingers at people without cause.
Please tell me someone else doesn't see the scum point fingers at whoever looks at him wrong!

[armlx]

Your point is hardly a valid one, especially given GS's join date. I acted like that my first few games as town.

[Rosso Carne]

Wow, I didn't even read the last post in the thread before my last response.

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!

Unvote, Vote Farside

dont be like that army.

[Greasy Spot]

You ask...
I gave...
you thrashed...
oh well.

[oEJo]

Greasy Spot: Re-read my question. It has a "Why?" You're making it really hard for me not to vote for you.

[farside22]

I'm not going to hammer GS. I still have issues with armix for his comment.

FOS Farside

. Rallied on GS, jumped off to rally on Rosso, now jumping off to rally again. Doing lots of latching on to votes (always 2nd on wagon very shortly after).

Later he states a 2nd vote is not a bandwagon, but he thinks it odd I'm the 2nd vote against someone.
I am trying to get reactions to why people are doing what they are doing that is how you find scum. Not by following a bandwagon.

It appears to me you keep trying to build on starting wagons in the hopes one spirals out of control. Hence the FOS.

If she wanted to be on a wagon that was spiraling out of control, why wouldn't she just tack her vote onto the GS wagon with no explanation? Oh wait, thats what YOU did.

Hardly. Jumping on the GS wagon without following valid reasoning would be the worst thing for scum to do. It's a lot easier for them to divert the attention from him today and just follow up on the suspicions from D1 on D2 or 3.

How about you just the fact that you are contraditing yourself. Basically you are saying if I dont vote for GS I'm scum. If I do vote for GS I'm scum. Now we have this beautiful statement.

Your point is hardly a valid one, especially given GS's join date. I acted like that my first few games as town.

You voted for him now you are defending him. I think we have a scum folks.

Major FOS armlx

for being a hypocrite and the all your comments that just contradicted themselves.

[timmytuttut31]

Your point is hardly a valid one, especially given GS's join date. I acted like that my first few games as town.

then why did you vote him?

[armlx]

Too be 100% honest, my earlier vote was a mistake. I hadn't even looked at this experience level as I thought I had the sick reads on him.

[farside22]

Too be 100% honest, my earlier vote was a mistake. I hadn't even looked at this experience level as I thought I had the sick reads on him.

translation:

I'm contradicting myself still and am a hypocrite. Ignore my comments because I will have you all chasing your tails.

[Rosso Carne]

I dont ever like experience being taken into account. chalk that one up for arm as scum if GS turns up scum.

[Adel]

votecount as of post 193

with 12 alive, 7 will lynch before deadline

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¬Greasy Spot

: 4 : DoctorJimmy, Killah Nine, Phate, farside22

armlx

: 2 : OhGodMyLife, , Greasy Spot

timmytuttut88

: 1 : Thorbjorn

farside22

: 1 : armlx

not voting

: 4 :angelmouse, oEJo, Rosso Carne, timmytuttut88

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Day 1's deadline is February 19

[armlx]

I dont ever like experience being taken into account.

While this attitude is good for the meta (forces players to get better fast), on a game by game basis it is not a good way to win.

[oEJo]

Vote: farside22

He admitted that he made a mistake. Not many people do that. Why jump on him for it?

[farside22]

Vote: farside22

He admitted that he made a mistake. Not many people do that. Why jump on him for it?

Because for about 2 pages he hounded GS and now he is giving him a free pass based on how long he's been in the game.
Reading is fundamental.

[angelmouse]

Vote: farside22

He admitted that he made a mistake. Not many people do that. Why jump on him for it?

Ever thought he was admitting the mistake to backtrack? Farside didn't jump on it for that, she had been on his case for a while. And is not taking his join date into consideration a "mistake" or a reason to backtrack as well. I really don't like the way you took his "mistake" at face value and defended him. While at the same time you have been questioning Spot's scummy behaviour all game and been been very active in trying to lynch him (dispite taking your vote off of him)

Unvote.
I agree. Why isn't Greasy spot dead yet? I'd like to hear from the prods before I go voting, though.

and never said anything against armlx. You have been too active for a Spot lynch and now your defending someone showing as much scummy behaviour so much so he has had to admit to a mistake? Armlx has been full of contradictions that you not even questioning that and now defending him sets off big alarms in my head.

Major FOS armlx

for backtracking due to join date and contraticitng himself all over the shop and

Vote oEJo

for defending him without questioning it while been too active in the Spot lynch, i.e. different play style for differnt players.

[timmytuttut31]

I still think GS is scum. He is obviously avoiding our questions and is trying to keep a low profile now that everyone is suspicious of armlx.I'm starting to think GS and armlx are both part of different scum groups.

@ GS:What do you think of the current situation with armlx and farside?