Guardian wrote:Mgm wrote:Guardian wrote:You want to get rid of one of the most vocal proactive townies.
How could you possibly know he is a townie on day one? Sounds like a slip.
Unvote: Thesp
Vote: Guardian
cicero wrote:how is that a scumtell? He's referring to himself for god's sake.
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I find cicero's point about scum strategy interesting, and possibly accurate/applicable but:
- It would mean Thesp is town, something I'm not sure I'm comfortable with
- It boils down to WIFOM easily
- Why are you thinking about scum strategy, cicero?
One thinks about scum strategy so day one isnt filled with people pushing bad cases based on generic scumtells that would indeed be scumtells in a single mafia mini but which aren't applicable here.
Here's a better question for Cicero: Cicero why say that out loud? Are you coaching the scum??
Answer: No. The scum have lots of time to chat amongs themselves and they know what the good strategies are. Clearly the town needs reminding of them from time to time. And sadly, I can only talk to them in the open thread.
More impotantly, my point doesn't point to either you or Thesp as town. What it does is question a specific line of thought as to why you might be scum. You and Thesp could both be scum. I've found that both of you have a tendency to bend over backwards to LOOK TOWNIE. You are both classic cases of players who could be exercising Strategy 1.
I mean, look at that last question, you asked. You know what I said makes sense but you want to make sure you question me because I said something that might defend you. That's in case I come up scum so people arent going OMG Guardian-Cicero!!! Now THAT is disingenuous play. But it's designed to make sure your ass doesnt get hauled down with my ass if I come up as scum of a different faction after I said something that might be seen aa a defense of you. And you could have a motive for doing that as both town or scum. Heck it's practically obligatory. But it is indeed disingenuous either way.
This is very different than when you are pursuing a case and someone says "he's railroading Iammars" and I say... well, he'd probably only do that if he thought Iammars was actually scum because if he succeeds and Iammars is town it looks bad and he has no incentive to do such a thing. I'm contradicting an approach, not playing mister protection on your loquacious ass.
Thok is an experienced player. So when he makes an argument like that, it COULD point to him wanting to sway the Thesp wagon onto a Guardian wagon. That in turn could point to exactly the Thesp-Thok connection you already mentioned. Hence why it deserves attention and is a more reliable scumtell than many of the more overt ones.
Please remember that there is absolutely nothing precluding you, Thok AND Thesp of all being scum, you know.
Huh? What has the Kscope wagon got to do with me?
