Wow...that was wierd. So, what should I do? I guess
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Votes required:7 to lynch
2, Matt_s- RangeroftheNorth, destructor
1, Spindax- Coolbot
1, crazy_vlad- Matt_S
1, eljcko- massive
1, Zycronium- eljcko
6,Not Voting:Zyrconium, crazy_vlad, Spindax, GSGold, thing =), Khelvaster
Wow...that was wierd. So, what should I do? I guessUnvote, un: FoS all, since all I was talking about was nameclaiming.Lag actually does exist in real life. For proof, look no further than Jesus: When he died, it took him three *days* to respawn.-
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I don't think this makes sense, if you think about it. As confusing as the start of this game has been, both Matt_S and Khelvaster are in my tentative town list. I can't imagine either of them doing what they did as scum.CoolBot wrote:No, I'm pretty sure he originally wanted a full mass claim. Only after getting resistance, Khel switched to the three outsiders. Sounds like fishing to me.
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I don't know that we can just ignore it, but I have no idea what is signifies. That he's a town player who had a really bad idea? A scum player with a surefire safe claim? A scum player with a really bad idea? As far as I can tell, without more information, it doesn't mean much of anything. It's something we can look at later, when we have more information.-
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what I don't like is that we have already 3 pages written down but with nothing consistent (except the mass claim of course) and just random votes.
if there is a vote not random, any vote, it should be explained.
someone will have to start a debate...
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I'm pretty sure that Matt_S has claimed vanilla townie and that the mod did not give him a role name even originally. I don't think he was trying to get all the other vanillas to come forward, but I could be wrong about that. Now either Matt_S is really a vanilla townie, or this is one hell of a gambit. I lean toward him being a townie, but that's because the alternative is pretty much insane.-
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Matt_S Mafia Scum
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I didn't want all vanillas to claim, just one so that I knew I wasn't alone. Some people were pushing name claims, others didn't see things the way I saw them, so I wanted someone else to come forward so that the town could have an idea of who could be scum. I originally wanted to see everyone's reactions, because I thought pro name claim people would have to be scum or power roles, and I thought my posts would convince power roles to not post. Of course, lots of people posted so I wanted to get someone to come out with the fact that they didn't have a name so we could eliminate potential scum and actually get the town to understand me. Then the mod came and stuff happened.
A while after my first post, I thought that I doomed Khelvaster(and that he was a power role), but I hoped I could out a few scum so I decided to be secret about what I knew. Again, everything would have gone smoother if somebody else had just not had a name.
Since my only idea is gone, I'llUnvote, Vote Zyrconiumsince I haven't seen him post. Lurkers, lynching, etc.Show"So I went to the librarian in the biology section and asked her if she could find me a map of the cat." -Richard Feynman
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I've read again all the posts. Khelvaster. your mass claim, in the first posts, in the first day, may have been well intended, but is has something fishy for me...
as there is no vote in present for you, and as I consider that we have to clarify that post - and to get to a clear conclusion whether you are or not oa bad guy, I'll give you my vote. it's not a final vote, it is an attention mark. that's all.vote Khelvaster-
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Can any of those people voting Khelvaster explain how he could be scum? I'm not buying this wagon.
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I can do that too. Would every 25 posts (top of every page) be suitable?destructor wrote:Can any of those people voting Khelvaster explain how he could be scum? I'm not buying this wagon.
Also,Mod:Can we actually have vote counts posted throughout the thread? It helps to have a record of votes as we read through the thread as references later in the game.-
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Khelvaster Mafia Scum
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I was hoping to trap the mod, if he ended up giving 9 fellowships and 3 non-fellowships. I've seen stuff like this before. 9+3=12, the number of people in our game. 9 townie+3 scum tends to be balanced. If we happened to have a modslip, and he gave Saruman, Witch-King, Sauron or something like that along with the full fellowship, I would have gotten us a quickwin.crazy_vlad wrote:I've read again all the posts. Khelvaster. your mass claim, in the first posts, in the first day, may have been well intended, but is has something fishy for me...
as there is no vote in present for you, and as I consider that we have to clarify that post - and to get to a clear conclusion whether you are or not oa bad guy, I'll give you my vote. it's not a final vote, it is an attention mark. that's all.vote KhelvasterLag actually does exist in real life. For proof, look no further than Jesus: When he died, it took him three *days* to respawn.-
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Even if I had a name I wouldn't have gone with your plan. But I still can't believe a scum would suggest a name claim. I can see how people would be suspicious though, so I'm having trouble seeing who's most deserving of a vote. So I say we vote Zyrconium to get him to post here.Khelvaster wrote:
I was hoping to trap the mod, if he ended up giving 9 fellowships and 3 non-fellowships. I've seen stuff like this before. 9+3=12, the number of people in our game. 9 townie+3 scum tends to be balanced. If we happened to have a modslip, and he gave Saruman, Witch-King, Sauron or something like that along with the full fellowship, I would have gotten us a quickwin.crazy_vlad wrote:I've read again all the posts. Khelvaster. your mass claim, in the first posts, in the first day, may have been well intended, but is has something fishy for me...
as there is no vote in present for you, and as I consider that we have to clarify that post - and to get to a clear conclusion whether you are or not oa bad guy, I'll give you my vote. it's not a final vote, it is an attention mark. that's all.vote KhelvasterShow"So I went to the librarian in the biology section and asked her if she could find me a map of the cat." -Richard Feynman
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If it was just the mass claim, maybe i could buy letting him go. But later he wanted to know if there were three people outside the fellowship. That's appears to be a clear case of role fishing to me. And it's not like there are a richness of leads right now. Unless someone has a better idea, Khel's our best option for a wagon right now.-
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Well, I guess he is too fishy to let go.Unvote, Vote Khelvaster
I really wonder what would have happened if I hadn't said anything though...Show"So I went to the librarian in the biology section and asked her if she could find me a map of the cat." -Richard Feynman
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What are you talking about? I just explained why I wanted three people outside the fellowship in my previous post: This would almost certainly point to a 9-3 division of scum-town.CoolBot wrote:If it was just the mass claim, maybe i could buy letting him go. But later he wanted to know if there were three people outside the fellowship. That's appears to be a clear case of role fishing to me. And it's not like there are a richness of leads right now. Unless someone has a better idea, Khel's our best option for a wagon right now.
CoolBot, you've been ignoring everything I said so that you could start a bandwagon on me.
Vote: CoolbotLag actually does exist in real life. For proof, look no further than Jesus: When he died, it took him three *days* to respawn.-
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I'd like for y'all to say how exactly it's fishy. I think it's pretty clear that we won't have 9 power roles, so asking for whether people are in the fellowship or not is perfectly legitimate.Lag actually does exist in real life. For proof, look no further than Jesus: When he died, it took him three *days* to respawn.-
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Huh? What did I say that changed you mind so quickly?Matt_S wrote:Well, I guess he is too fishy to let go.
You were so certain that the town was Fellowship, and I don't see why. LOTR games have been played before and they've included many pro town roles outside of the fellowship. In properly balanced games, mass claim usually hurt the town, badly. You never gave any real justification of it. So a wagon is justified, IMO.Khelvaster wrote:What are you talking about? I just explained why I wanted three people outside the fellowship in my previous post: This would almost certainly point to a 9-3 division of scum-town.
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