Open 57 - Quack Mafia (Game Over) before 545

[Phate]

Kuribo's last post strikes me as opportunistic.

[Crub]

Vote Count:

None

Not Voting : Oman, shaft.ed, TylerJ, Phate, Tarhalindur, kuribo, farside22

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Phate]

Let's go back and look at this.

So, for the record, what's the town's opinion on we quacks trying to protect people they think are scum in the hopes of finding scum?

So, for the record, what's the town's opinion on we quacks trying to protect people they think are scum in the hopes of finding scum?

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Vote: Phate

So, for the record, what's the town's opinion on we quacks trying to protect people they think are scum in the hopes of finding scum?

I imagine the opinion would be the same as any other plan that would involve possibly murdering helpless townies.

Other Stuff

Maybe we differ in opinion, I feel that Phate's idea of randomly using Quacks as townie murdering cops is far more damaging.

[Other Unrelated Stuff]

Kuribo, "Phate's idea" implies falsely that I suggested it, when I merely inquired about it.

I think this exchange speaks for itself. In summary: I merely asked a question. I didn't push a plan. The reaction was immediate and overblown.

As of right now, I think it's TylerJ + Tarhalindur + kuribo.

[kuribo]

Kuribo's last post strikes me as opportunistic.

Yeah, it's really opportunistic to note that someone didn't notice that one mislynch would screw us.

[Phate]

Yes, it clearly is, after someone else already called her out for it and FoS'd him and she apologised and unvoted. It was a simple mistake, nothing more, and yet you're jumping onto the FoSwagon without really committing to anything.

For the record, voting right now would be

against

her best interests if she was scum - it would only lead to a quickmislynch if she were town voting town.

[Oman]

HoS Farside

Horrible reason for a Lylo vote. One thing saved you: scum rarely vote first in Lylo.

Shaft.ed looks town for asking Farside to remove the vote.

I also think Shaft.ed is town from the last two days.

Vote: Phate

I think he is scum, and am willing to vote on it.

[farside22]

HoS Farside

Horrible reason for a Lylo vote. One thing saved you: scum rarely vote first in Lylo.

Shaft.ed looks town for asking Farside to remove the vote.

I also think Shaft.ed is town from the last two days.

Vote: Phate

I think he is scum, and am willing to vote on it.

I get a HoS for voting and he votes because he is sure? I feel like I missed something.

[shaft.ed]

HoS Farside

Horrible reason

for a Lylo vote. One thing saved you: scum rarely vote first in Lylo.

Shaft.ed looks town for asking Farside to remove the vote.

I also think Shaft.ed is town from the last two days.

Vote: Phate

I think he is scum

, and am willing to vote on it.

I get a HoS for voting and he votes because he is sure? I feel like I missed something.

QFT emphasis mine. Oman please explain yourself. This is not the time for "I think" "I have a hunch" or "my gut tells me" voting and you just pointed that out.

[Phate]

Vote: Oman

Well, then. Tar's just a

stupid

mistaken townie after all.

[shaft.ed]

FoS Phate
FoS Oman

Would you guys please not vote eachother for little to no reason. We are in LyLo. One misplaced vote can lead to a scum quicklynch. And you are both voting without making any case. This is either poor town play, scum trying to get momentum for an early day lynch, or scum distancing. Whatever of the above it is, it's not protown.

[Phate]

Someone just voted me. It's LyLo. I'm still alive. Thus, Oman is scum or I am.

[Phate]

Or both.

[shaft.ed]

Per your own post on this very thread:

For the record, voting right now would be against her best interests if she was scum - it would only lead to a quickmislynch if she were town voting town.

[shaft.ed]

EBWOP: above should read page not thread.

[Tarhalindur]

Or both.

Actually, no. If no quicklynch materializes, then we can be absolutely sure that exactly one of you and Oman is town, since you are both claimed Quacks and the Mafia only has one NK.

I will review Oman's posts, but I am leaning towards you being the scum in the Quacks for reasons explained yesterday (and if you're scum, then shaft.ed probably is scum as well).

[shaft.ed]

and if you're scum, then shaft.ed probably is scum as well

Where did that come from?

Phate Tar is correct only one of you and Oman can be scum.

[Phate]

Tar's the other quack, correct?

[TylerJ]

Wow, quick votes. Nothing to add just yet. just reading up and saying hi.

And Phate, we can't be certain if anyone is quack. They can easily lie, and me and kuribo could very well be quacks, but we don't know and consequently wouldn't be able to disprove any of the claimed quacks.

[Phate]

Let me rephrase.

Tar is the other claimed quack?

[shaft.ed]

Let me rephrase.

Tar is the other claimed quack?

Yes Oman, Phate and Tar are the claimed quacks. Meaning that at most only one of you three can be scum. Also meaning that at least 2 of me, Tyler, farside and kuribo must be scum. So mathematically it's in our best interest to lynch from the latter group. I would strongly suggest this course of action.

[Phate]

Wrong. You failed to take into account that Oman and I are voting each other.

Tar is clear. He has a 50% chance of lynching correctly no matter who he picks in either pool, assuming a random lynch.

Pool 1: Exactly 1 of Oman/Phate is scum. (a town player *cough*me*cough in Pool 1 knows, 100%, that the other is scum, and has a 50% chance of lynching scum by lynching randomly in the Pool 2.)

Pool 2: Exactly 2 of farside22/kuribo/shaft.ed/TylerJ is scum. (a town player in this pool has a 50% chance of lynching scum by lynching randomly in Pool 1 and a 66.67% chance of lynching scum by lynching randomly in Pool 2)

So mathematically speaking, it's best for any townies within two pools to vote someone else in their pool.

[TylerJ]

The problem Phate, is that you and oman would be wasting your votes.

[Phate]

Not when you take into account Tar's vote and the other scum's votes.

[shaft.ed]

ACtually Phate we don't know if there are any mafia in the Quack pool. If scum didn't NK N1 then you're all town. That means under one scenario everyone is the same, but under the other the Doc pool is way better than the quack.

[Phate]

Shaft.ed, it's lylo, oman and I are voting each other, and neither of us were quicklynched. If we were both town, scum would quicklynch and WIN THE GAME. THIS MEANS THAT EXACTLY ONE OF OMAN AND I ARE SCUM, NO?