Open 53: Near-Vanilla - Game over!

[klebian]

It is good to see a fresh analysis of past behavior, even if only to get some discussion going again...

[Crub]

And can I just confirm, you find him scummy because he wasn't composed, and now he's composed he's even scummier? Just how exactly do you want him to react?

Yes, in a nutshell this is why I found RW scummy. However now reviewing the topic I just realize the RW bandwagon was just that, a bandwagon so...

Unvote

Wow nice backpedal.

[Crub]

It is good to see a fresh analysis of past behavior, even if only to get some discussion going again...

Except that it wasn't fresh and there was no one around to respond to it in any case.

[Crub]

*tap**tap* Hello? Is this thing on?

[Hjallti]

Justin Playfair

replace

tyhess

retractable deadline:

This day will end not later than feb 19th, CET 11.30 am, which is in 11 days minus 4 hours away from the timestamp of this post.

Official Vote Count

RossWilliam

: 4 (JDodge, TheSweatspantsNinja, klebian, Phate)

Phate

: 1 (RossWilliam)

MelodyMan23

: 1 (Korlash)

TheSweatspantsNinja

: 1 (Shanba)

klebian

: 1 (Crub)

Not voting

: 5 (neko2086, Justin Playfair, skitzer, killa seven, MelodyMan23)

[Hjallti]

At deadline the player with most votes will be lynched, You have to vote nolynch to avoid this scenario at least as much as the highest number of votes. In case of tie between two or more players I will remove the last vote untill the tie is removed.

If discussion picks up and I might extend or remove the deadline.

[Korlash]

Well thats not good... Curb you scared the peoples away...

[neko2086]

Welcome Justin. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on everything.

Korlash, your votee has been replaced. Do you still like your vote where it is?

[Korlash]

That is such better avatar for you...

And I already told you I think this replacement should have pressure. So yes, i like my vote.

[Justin Playfair]

Hi all,

Will reread quickly and post this weekend. Great to be here!

[RossWilliam]

unvote, vote: nolynch

right now, I don't know who is scummy. But I also think, though it sounds selfish, that lynching me right now would be a mislynch. You don't have enough on me to lynch me yet. I'd appreciate it if some people voted nolynch with me, or even if the people on me unvoted. it would be a shame for the town for me to die without more evidence.

PS: there is no more evidence to be had, so we're all good

[Crub]

Haha oh dear

Feeling much better about a RW lynch now

[klebian]

I would just credit that to a newbie-move: it is not entirely clear to newbies that a death of a townie provides more information than a nolynch (avoiding a townie lynch).

It is not selfish, RW, and it is probably a fairly common notion. But I'd prefer that you try some scumhunting on the evidence we do have before I unvote you.

Crub: I didn't respond to that post after mine, because I felt that there was no good to argue that point.

[Shanba]

unvote, vote: nolynch

right now, I don't know who is scummy. But I also think, though it sounds selfish, that lynching me right now would be a mislynch. You don't have enough on me to lynch me yet. I'd appreciate it if some people voted nolynch with me, or even if the people on me unvoted. it would be a shame for the town for me to die without more evidence.

PS: there is no more evidence to be had, so we're all good ;)

Newbie move. For the town, a lynch is better than a random lynch, unless it's on a confirmed townie, which you would hope it never is, as there's a chance that a random lynch will hit scum whereas a no lynch simply cannot.

[killa seven]

unvote, vote: nolynch

right now, I don't know who is scummy. But I also think, though it sounds selfish, that lynching me right now would be a mislynch. You don't have enough on me to lynch me yet. I'd appreciate it if some people voted nolynch with me, or even if the people on me unvoted. it would be a shame for the town for me to die without more evidence.

PS: there is no more evidence to be had, so we're all good

way to try to save yourself, probably wasnt the right one, as soon as the mod lets us vote no lynch u jump right on it? explain to me further why i shouldnt vote u and should vote no lynch u didnt really explain it much...

[Korlash]

Wern't we always allowed to vote no lynch? how did RW "jump right on it"?

[killa seven]

the mod stated that we could do that, and 5 posts later his 1st post after the mods he unvotes.

[Korlash]

And? The mod stated that come deadline a vote of no lynch follows the same rules as other votes, that is not the mod letting us vote no lynch. And yes, givint he fact a vote of no lynch would save his life I would excpect him to want it instead. I guess I could see why you would say he jumped on it, I just think you worded it to make it look worse then it actaully was, which jumps out to me as somewhat suspicious.

[klebian]

Korlash: you realize that town doesn't play to survive but it plays to win? Shanba messed up his wording a bit but basically a lynch is better than no lynch because we get info ==> helps us win.

Mod didn't 'let' us no lynch but he explained how to no lynch.

[Korlash]

... I'm not talking abotu Shanba I'm talking about killa...

[RossWilliam]

Shanba, Klebian, what you say makes sense, I didn't think of that. I don't want to be lynched, but I see how it's good for the whole town if it happens.

unvote

killa, we could have voted no lynch all game. It was never not an option. I wasn't going to vote nolynch, but the dead line frightened me into doing it. I don't want to be lynched, I want to last as long in the game as possible. that's just human nature. But some of you guys just convinced me to take one for the team if need be. thank you for that.

killa seven, we know your a newbie too, and it looks right now like your just trying to take advantage of a situation that looks good for you. I think your being oppurtunistic, and I don't like it.

[killa seven]

And? The mod stated that come deadline a vote of no lynch follows the same rules as other votes, that is not the mod letting us vote no lynch. And yes, givint he fact a vote of no lynch would save his life I would excpect him to want it instead. I guess I could see why you would say he jumped on it, I just think you worded it to make it look worse then it actaully was, which jumps out to me as somewhat suspicious.

how is that suspicious i was pointing this out, to get a response out of him, its odd that he could have voted no lynch this whole time but as soon as the mod brings it up he votes no lynch.. seems to me he was un aware of it and saw a opportunity to save himself, and i havent voted rw and didnt plan on it yet, so i dont see how this is suspicious.

[Korlash]

I hate the word opprotunistic... It's one of those scum tells that is based mostly on personal opinions/views.

[neko2086]

That is such better avatar for you...

I changed it just for you

Anyway, on to more important things...

PS: there is no more evidence to be had, so we're all good

I'm not sure what you mean by this, exactly. Are you saying that we won't get any more evidence today or that we've already examined everything we have up to this point, or something entirely different? There's always something we could have missed.

Like lurkers, for instance. Phate hasn't posted in a week, and the last time he posted was after a prod request I made, and he assured us he was here and watching Korlash. He didn't contribute much afterwards. JDodge hasn't posted for 2 weeks, and his last post was his scarcely explained vote.

Mod: prod JDodge

please. Phate, I assume you're still around?

[RossWilliam]

sorry korlash, but I don't have a problem with it, especially in this situation

killa, it's not odd at all that I voted nolynch now, because when there was no deadline, there was no threat of lynch. It was impossible to get lynched on four votes before. Now it is. How is my voting nolynch odd in any way at all? I gave my reasoning. It would have been silly for me to do it before the deadline was set, but now that it's after it makes sense. And now that I know it's not pro-town, i'm not even doing it anymore.