PIRATES v. NINJAS! Game Over!

[Mgm]

Unvote: Guardian

Not sure I believe he targeted MBL, but I'm not going to lynch him.

Vote: Thesp

[UltimaAvalon]

Are we going to be able to stick with a single bandwagon by Monday?

unvote

Wagons with UA's Stamp of Approval:
Guardian
Rosso
Thesp

Wagons with UA's Stamp of Frowny Face:
Skruffs
Scope
All the others

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Oh, last thing: Kscope, in addition to answering if your partner is confirmed town to you -- do you know if you are confirmed town to your partner?

Yes, I know that person is town, and I'm asuming that player knows that as well

Unvote

[Gorrad]

Guardian, can you respond to post 871 please?

[Skruffs]

Twomz : Why does it matter to you?

[Twomz]

Skruffs: It's a question, why does it have to directly involve me?

[Skruffs]

Well, you seem to have just implied you are in a grouping of some sort.

[Guardian]

Well, Gorrad, at what time in the game are you referring to? When I first brought it up, I thought it was the best thing we had in the game.

Now, I look as it as adding to the fact that Iammars's play has been rather lurky and not town-helpful. At this point, it is part of my suspicion for Iammars, not the totality.

[Thestatusquo]

UA, why rosso?

[Xtoxm]

Hey Claus!! Thnx!

unvote

I can see Samwise Gangee being a tracker (for those that stated uncertainty about this role, he's a character from LOTR, tracker makes sense).

I don't know who to vote for atm.

[Flameaxe]

Hey guys. Whats up?

[Thok]

Hey Claus!! Thnx!

unvote

I can see Samwise Gangee being a tracker (for those that stated uncertainty about this role, he's a character from LOTR, tracker makes sense).

I know who Samwise Gangee is. That's not my issue with the claim. My issue (among other things) is that Sam doesn't really do much "tracking" in LOTR and Guardian's description for why he is a tracker suggests a hider flavor (and the hider flavor would fit better with other characters in the book).

[Flameaxe]

Hey Claus!! Thnx!

unvote

I can see Samwise Gangee being a tracker (for those that stated uncertainty about this role, he's a character from LOTR, tracker makes sense).

I know who Samwise Gangee is. That's not my issue with the claim. My issue (among other things) is that Sam doesn't really do much "tracking" in LOTR and Guardian's description for why he is a tracker suggests a hider flavor (and the hider flavor would fit better with other characters in the book).

Sauron would fit so much more. Discuss.

[Thok]

Sauron would fit so much more. Discuss.

That's a straw man. There exist better tracker flavor characters in LOTR (Bilbo, for example matches the suggested flavor much better than Sam) without having to bring up evil characters.

[Flameaxe]

Sauron would fit so much more. Discuss.

That's a straw man. There exist better tracker flavor characters in LOTR (Bilbo, for example matches the suggested flavor much better than Sam) without having to bring up evil characters.

I wasn't accusing Sauron of being scum. So, no. "Ur not doin' it rite".

[Guardian]

Thok, you seem to be suggesting that I am making up my claim because there are other characters that fit tracker better in LOTR.

I agree with you, not sure why Stoofer picked Sam. Aragorn immediately comes to mind, for me.

Translation: If I were making this up, I'd have made it up better.

But, I am not making it up, my role is not Aragorn, or some other LOTR character. It is Sam. And I am a tracker. And that is that.

[Thok]

Translation: If I were making this up, I'd have made it up better.

But, I am not making it up, my role is not Aragorn, or some other LOTR character. It is Sam. And I am a tracker. And that is that.

If you are scum, you could have been given Sam as a safe name to work with, and then tried to fit a role to that name. And I know you have a tendency when run up as scum early game to claim an investigative role, and in this game from what we've seen so far tracker would be a safer claim for you than any sort of cop.

[Skruffs]

Thing is, Samwise was ... someone... not Bilbo... anyways, he was a hobbitt's best bud; the hobbitt was the main character, not Samwise.

Victor Frankenstien : Main character of the story Frankenstein.
Luke Skywalker : Main character of the 70s trilogy of Star Wars.
Jack Aubrey : Main character of Aubrey–Maturin series of novels by Patrick O'Brian ((Had to wiki this one))
And, if KSc0pe's claim is true: Bill Clinton; Main character of the United States, 1992-2000

Unfortunately, your claim is NOT that of a main character. I'm not saying it's a fake claim, because it's possible that your main bud is also a character in this game; but if there isn't, it seems much more likely that you would pick samwise as a fake claim, just in case the real bilbo baggins or whatever his name was IS in the game.

To quote the great Flameaxe: "Discuss."

[Flameaxe]

Jack Aubrey : Main character of Aubrey–Maturin series of novels by Patrick O'Brian ((Had to wiki this one))

Why have you not read (at least) Master and Commander? For shame!


"Discuss."

[Skruffs]

Distraction. NEXT!

[UltimaAvalon]

Translation: If I were making this up, I'd have made it up better.

But, I am not making it up, my role is not Aragorn, or some other LOTR character. It is Sam. And I am a tracker. And that is that.

If you are scum, you could have been given Sam as a safe name to work with, and then tried to fit a role to that name. And I know you have a tendency when run up as scum early game to claim an investigative role, and in this game from what we've seen so far tracker would be a safer claim for you than any sort of cop.

Where does it say Scum got safe claims?

[Thok]

Where does it say Scum got safe claims?

Where does it say Scum didn't get safe claims?

[UltimaAvalon]

Is it custom to tell the town whether or not safe claims are given? The only game I can recall playing where scum got them, we were told such.

[Thestatusquo]

I can't believe Stoofer would run a game without safe claims. In addition, the fact that we already have a dead information role which implies others similar to it makes me not very inclined to believe guardian.

Vote: Guardian

[Skruffs]

Fake Names:
I don't know. In "Dante's In Fresno", the scum had a "Rolename Finder", which they could use to find if a role name was used or not. They would try to find names that weren't in the game so they could claim them.

In C&H everyone had a Role Name but it had no bearing on their role, since it was a mountainous set up.

In the Werewolves game, which was I guess a themed mod, the werewolves had no help in terms of what to claim. No power roles, and one kill per night. It was ridiculously over powered for town, who had something like three doctors, a vig, two cops, a roleblocker, unkillable townies, etc.

Meadows of Sorrow, scum were allowed to change other player's role names around, or their own, which made fake claiming almost unnecessary.

I don't think scum got fake claims in PS2SUX; we actually caught at least one scum (Romanus) because he claimed the same video game as another player.

So generally speaking, I don't think scum get fake claims in large themed mafia games, but it seems that there is usually, possibly, an advantage they have to get around it.