PIRATES v. NINJAS! Game Over!

[hasdgfas]

I'm watching Ninja Warrior right now.

unvote, vote guardian

Why are you voting for a claimed tracker?

[Thestatusquo]

Iunno, it could be because we already have a dead investigative role which implies another one coupled with the fact that the flavor is poor coupled with the fact that guardian always claims information roles as scum. Could be that.

[Flameaxe]

Iunno, it could be because we already have a dead investigative role which implies another one coupled with the fact that the flavor is poor coupled with the fact that guardian always claims information roles as scum. Could be that.

The thread has been won.

[The Fonz]

I think calling Guardian out for being the only fictional non-main character leaves enough space to lynch him, but -given the choice- I'd rather lynch Thesp and see if Guardian can come up with some clarifying results before opting to lynch him.

1. I'm uncomfortable assuming we have only 'main' characters based on a handful of deaths.

2. Last time I played with Guardian, he was scum, and claimed tracker. SSS I know, but it doesn't incline me to believe him much.

3. He also outed himself really quickly with a very badly thought out set of fake results.

I can live with him staying alive overnight, but I don't think we should wait more than a day or two before lynching him, unless he comes up with something.

[Xtoxm]

1. I'm uncomfortable assuming we have only 'main' characters based on a handful of deaths.

In other words, you have a non-main person...?

[Mgm]

Mod, do you have a specific time in mind for the deadline tomorrow?

[Xtoxm]

It's 9am GMT.

[Mgm]

If that is true, why is no one removing those useless votes, or actually working towards an attainable wagon?

[Mr Stoofer]

Vote Count

Guardian: 5 (Flameaxe, Iammars, Kison,Thestatusquo, Rosso Carne)
Rosso Carne: 5 (Guardian, Twomz, cicero, Thesp, Thok)
Thesp: 4 (Gorrad, Mgm, Claus, Erg0)
mikeburnfire: 2 (JordanA24, The Fonz)
Thok: 1 (Xtoxm)
KaleiÐoscøpe: 1 (mikeburnfire)

Not voting: 6 (Skruffs, Samruc, MrBuddyLee, hasdgfas, UltimaAvalon, KaleiÐoscøpe)

13 to lynch!

Deadline: 9am GMT Monday 11th February.

No-one will be lynched at deadline as things stand.

[cicero]

Xtoxm - you should really take your vote off of Thok. With Stoofer's voting system that kind of single outlier vote will make us more likely to No-Lynch. You should unvote or join one of the larger wagons. Unless you want a No-Lynch for some reason?

Mod - are you sure that vote count is correct? Could you double check? It doesn't seem to match up with my counting. Could be me.

[cicero]

Ah ok. Votecount is fixed now. If people want to avoid No Lynch they should unvote or choose a major wagon. Any reason why people are cool with a no lynch? :S

[Xtoxm]

My vote is on Thok cos I think he's scum and I want him lynched. 9am GMT happens to be a good time for me, about 10mins before I leave for college so I will be on then and unvote if necessary.

[cicero]

I actually think we are in good shape with respect to this day and our scum choices IF we can pull our shit together. Of the top three wagons here are my thoughts.

1. Guardian - I agree with some of TSQ's thoughts. I don't have evidence to back it up though. I haven't played enough games with Guardian to know that he "always claims an information role". I find it interesting that eveyrone and their dog targetted MBL on N0. He must be a helluva player. Still lynching him, given his claim, seems a dangerous and unnecessary move.

2. Rosso Carne - the wagon I am on, gives us the least information. But he has played an astonishingly scummy day one lurk day. His Kaleidoscope vote was pure hypocrisy. When I outlined my thoughts on players he tried to trivialise it by calling it fluff, while at the same time giving nothing to the game at all. Since a wagon formed he hasnt responded either. Radio silence. He could probably say two words and his wagon would evaporate but he isn't. Could be quite comfortable with a no lynch happening.

3. Thesp - an active player who I've talked about already. Most recently,I've found his 11th hour Skruffs push without reasons to be, as I said, a highly scummy attempt to distance from whatever lynch finally occurs on the chance that it comes up town. Suggests some disingenuity in his belief in his own wagons. Should probably have claimed already given where we are.

IMHO, at this point no one should be thinking about anyone but these three choices and moving us to a lynch. Unless, again people think No Lynch is good. If they do they should at least have the courage to actually "Vote: No Lynch".

[Xtoxm]

I find it interesting that eveyrone and their dog targetted MBL on N0.

I didn't, unfortunately.

[Claus]

Hey!

I would prefer a thesp lynch, but it seems it is not happening.

So,

Unvote. Vote Rosso Carne

as promised.

Xtomx - you understand that your current vote on Thok contributes to a "no lynch" right?

[Thok]

I find it interesting that eveyrone and their dog targetted MBL on N0.

I didn't, unfortunately.

Bad Xtoxm. If you are town, don't give out information like this without a good reason.

[Xtoxm]

Hey!

I would prefer a thesp lynch, but it seems it is not happening.

So,

Unvote. Vote Rosso Carne

as promised.

Xtomx - you understand that your current vote on Thok contributes to a "no lynch" right?

Fine. I don't wanna lynch Guardian, and I think the RC wagon is better than the Thesp, so

unvote vote Rosso Carne

.

[Thesp]

Thesp - an active player who I've talked about already. Most recently,I've found his 11th hour Skruffs push without reasons to be, as I said, a highly scummy attempt to distance from whatever lynch finally occurs on the chance that it comes up town.

I thought I'd expressed my discomfort with Skruffs on a number of occasions prior. Am I wrong?

[cicero]

@Thesp - You have expressed some discomfort with Skruffs on a number of occasions and been very reticent to provide reasons. I feel that this is a conversation that has already been had. When I re-read I see some direct rebuttals to Skruffs, an early minor FOS for a reason I deem wholly illegitimate, then you say on a re-read "I find I'm uncomfortable with skruffs" and then you refuse to give reasons.

That isnt the main point though. The main point is you choosing to actually vote skruffs at that point, nearing deadline, while doing nothing to actually promote a wagon against him. I've already outlined my reaction to that and a possible motivation of yours. I'm happy to hear a better explanation, though.

[Mgm]

Mod

, do you have any intention of replacing Rosso Carne if he is alive by the end of the day?

[The Fonz]

1. I'm uncomfortable assuming we have only 'main' characters based on a handful of deaths.

In other words, you have a non-main person...?

Quit fishing.

[cicero]

1. I'm uncomfortable assuming we have only 'main' characters based on a handful of deaths.

In other words, you have a non-main person...?

Quit fishing.

oh hai!

Could you shift your vote to a more productive wagon?

[The Fonz]

I'm considering it as we speak. Trying to get an idea of the Rosso wagon, as it seems to have sprung up out of nowhere.

[The Fonz]

unvote, vote: Thesp

This Rosso wagon has a bad smell about it. The speed with which it sprung up, the fact that both Thesp and Guardian are on it... the fact that it seems like it might do a Hillary and be running on inevitability soon (I could see the 'ZOMG! It's Rosso or nothing!' arguments lying just around the corner).

unvote, vote Thesp

Has pushed both the Mars and Scope wagons, neither of which i liked, plus gone after a claimed mason, and an unsubstantiated suspicion of Skruffs.

[Thestatusquo]

coming from you I find that surprising, because I remember reading you in another game say that you have never seen the speed of a wagon as indication that it was on a town or scum player, but rather that you had seen that argument used by scum players trying to defuse a wagon.

I see you have other reasoning too, but that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth...