Mini 520 - Triumvirate Mafia - ABANDONED

[Elmo]

Not sure how much it counts for, but skitzer set up the 'SECRET PLAN' back in 652, which was about a week ago. If memory serves, the Cephrir wagon has developed since then, so I don't think it's opportunistic in that sense, personally.

I only have a weak preference for Phate over Cephrir, but, um, everyone saying "Phate or Cephrir but not Miztif" needs to get on one wagon or the other. Specifically, Rishi (?), Skitzer, and Cephrir should probably be voting Phate, at the moment, assuming they don't have a strong preference either way. Then we'll deal with the claim. I really feel we shouldn't be lynching Miztif today.

MoS: Why are you voting SSF?

Yuan, if you want some discussion, look at the people who massively unvoted, saying "the random stage is over". What a load of bullshit. I'd pursue it, but I'm lazy and have been arguing with SirT. Someone else can do it.

Also, is it just me, or are you contradicting yourself a little?

Mod

: Could we have another vote count, and could you please prod Phate and Thin_Man (yes, again )?

[TrustGossip]

Elmo, I'm sorry to point out that your post seems a bit too domineering for my taste. I'm just saying. Giving a list of people that should all uniformly perform one action is a bit disconcerting. It also disables the town's ability to analyse why a particular person performed a particular action because then there's always the possibility that "they were listening to Elmo."

FOS: Elmo

for poor play that he should have forseen the consequences for.

Actually.

Vote: Elmo

I dislike it far more than I thought.

[Rishi]

Umm.. I'm not sure what TrustGossip is trying to accomplish with his vote.

But, Elmo is right. I should be on a viable wagon. Cephrir won't get lynched today.

Unvote, Vote: Phate

[Elmo]

assuming they don't have a strong preference either way.

If all four-ish people want Cephrir or Phate lynched, then it serves precisely no purpose for half of them to be on the Phate wagon and half on the Cephrir wagon. I'm not

telling

them who to vote for, I'm just pointing out that, assuming I've understood what they've said, what they're doing is close to pointless, because neither of the people they want lynched will get lynched today, so they should probably move their votes.

I thought what I was doing there was pretty clear.

[Mizzy]

Unvote. Vote: Phate.

He's still on my scumlist, and I'd rather not lynch someone who's more absent than active (would rather then replaced if possible,) so there you have it.

As a heads up, I might not be around too terribly much this weekend.

[Mastermind of Sin]

MoS: Why are you voting SSF?

I don't like his (lack of) contributions so far. He also tried a divestment of responsibility plow with the concordet voting, and his "summary" of the game so far didn't accomplish much. I expect more out of him as town. It sounds more like he wasn't trying to get caught taking any big positions on people, so he could easily backpedal away from bad positions.

Yuan, if you want some discussion, look at the people who massively unvoted, saying "the random stage is over". What a load of bullshit. I'd pursue it, but I'm lazy and have been arguing with SirT. Someone else can do it.

Also, is it just me, or are you contradicting yourself a little?

No matter how many times you bring that post up (between you and Phate, it's probably been quoted like 7 times), it's not going to change anything. I was very open about the fact that I was delegating responsibility and was not going to make any contribution of my own. You can't accuse me of any sort of diabolical scum plan when I was open about my intentions and my reasons to begin with.

[TrustGossip]

Umm.. I'm not sure what TrustGossip is trying to accomplish with his vote.

It doesn't say that I find Elmo scummy. It's saying that I heavily disapprove of what he did and another example of essentially "overdoing it". You're providing convenient outs for people. In the act of hunting scum one must also be careful not to subtly aid said scum by overproviding information or possible tactics.

Unvote: Vote Skitzer

[Shanba]

Vote Count:

4: Phate

(Miztef, Elmo, Rishi, mizzy)

3: Miztef

(Cephrir, Phate, somestrangeflea)

1: Cephrir

(skitzer)

1: flea

(MoS)

1: Rishi

(Thin_Man)

1: skitzer

(Trustgossip)

Not voting: Beep! Beep!

Vote count fixed -_-

[TrustGossip]

Vote Count:

4: Phate

(Miztef, Elmo, Rishi, mizzy)

3: Miztef

(Cephrir, Phate, somestrangeflea)

1: Cephrir

(skitzer)

1: flea

(MoS)

1: Rishi

(Thin_Man)

1: TrustGossip

(Trustgossip)

Not voting: Beep! Beep!

I am voting myself?

[Rishi]

Vote Count:

4: Phate

(Miztef, Elmo, Rishi, mizzy)

3: Miztef

(Cephrir, Phate, somestrangeflea)

1: Cephrir

(skitzer)

1: flea

(MoS)

1: Rishi

(Thin_Man)

1: TrustGossip

(Trustgossip)

Not voting: Beep! Beep!

I am voting myself?

You may as well be, since your vote on skitzer serves no purpose.

[Elmo]

[Mizzy]

Can we stop with the game of musical votes?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Unvote, Vote: Mizzy

[Mizzy]

Unvote, Vote: Mizzy

What, you're still here? I thought you were like, leaving or something. Smartass.

[skitzer]

I felt that this was a good play on my part. I even clearly said that I was lying, so scummy scum could work this out and figure that it was going to backfire upon them. Phate was another one, who posted shortly after I said this.

[Phate]

I'm disappointed that the Mizteflynch looks like it's not going to work out. I'm near-positive he's scum. His claim feels so fake that it's unbelievable any of you are falling for it.

I would much rather a Mizteflynch than a Cephlynch. If it has to be between me and Ceph, though...

Unvote
Vote: Cephrir

[Elmo]

Why do you believe is it fake?

[Elmo]

It doesn't say that I find Elmo scummy. It's saying that I heavily disapprove of what he did and another example of essentially "overdoing it". You're providing convenient outs for people. In the act of hunting scum one must also be careful not to subtly aid said scum by overproviding information or possible tactics.

They've already clearly stated that they're willing to vote for Cephrir or Phate, yes? I'm not telling them what to do, and I'm not "providing convenient outs for people". They've said they want Cephrir or Phate lynched, but they're not putting their vote where it's doing the most good, and I'm pointing that out. If they say "Oh, well, Elmo told me to" at some point in the future,

they're lying

and should promptly be shredded for doing so. So it really doesn't help the scum, regardless of who they are.

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No matter how many times you bring that post up (between you and Phate, it's probably been quoted like 7 times), it's not going to change anything. I was very open about the fact that I was delegating responsibility and was not going to make any contribution of my own. You can't accuse me of any sort of diabolical scum plan when I was open about my intentions and my reasons to begin with.

I can't help but notice that you haven't answered the question.

Yuan, if you want some discussion, look at the people who massively unvoted, saying "the random stage is over". What a load of bullshit. I'd pursue it, but I'm lazy and have been arguing with SirT. Someone else can do it.

I'm suspicious of the way Elmo keeps asking Mizzy to analyze posts for him. He implies that there is something to be found in a post and then sends someone off to find out what it is, without having to do any of the work himself. It's a good way to send people on a wild goose chase without having to be responsible for the results.

You have

quite clearly

said that you were suspicious of me for asking Mizzy to analyse Miztif. You've also

quite clearly

done the same thing earlier in the game. You're contradicting yourself. Do you think I should I be suspicious of you for getting Yuanti to look over the people who unvoted?

[Cephrir]

I'm not sure why people are voting for me for lurkerishness. Not only is skitzer lurking worse, he's also voting based on a ridiculously stupid theory. Although I'm not a fan of lurking as a scumtell at all, anyway.

Unvote, Vote Phate

, been wanting this lynch all day.

[Elmo]

Skitzer being an awful lurker doesn't somehow excuse you; lurking is anti-town, regardless of what your alignment is.

For the second time, why do you want Phate lynched?

[Mastermind of Sin]

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No matter how many times you bring that post up (between you and Phate, it's probably been quoted like 7 times), it's not going to change anything. I was very open about the fact that I was delegating responsibility and was not going to make any contribution of my own. You can't accuse me of any sort of diabolical scum plan when I was open about my intentions and my reasons to begin with.

I can't help but notice that you haven't answered the question.

Yuan, if you want some discussion, look at the people who massively unvoted, saying "the random stage is over". What a load of bullshit. I'd pursue it, but I'm lazy and have been arguing with SirT. Someone else can do it.

I'm suspicious of the way Elmo keeps asking Mizzy to analyze posts for him. He implies that there is something to be found in a post and then sends someone off to find out what it is, without having to do any of the work himself. It's a good way to send people on a wild goose chase without having to be responsible for the results.

You have

quite clearly

said that you were suspicious of me for asking Mizzy to analyse Miztif. You've also

quite clearly

done the same thing earlier in the game. You're contradicting yourself. Do you think I should I be suspicious of you for getting Yuanti to look over the people who unvoted?

I totally answered the question. I explained how I did NOT do the same thing as you. The basic action was similar, but the surrounding factors were not.

[TrustGossip]

This is ridiculous. Is the current page just a series of scum crawling out of the woodwork to post votes on people before deadline or is it just a bunch of townies fooling around because they have no better idea!

Skitzer, I fail to believe you had an ulterior motive to gambit with your recent activity, especially since you posted SUPER SECRET PLAN on the post. I don't think being an idiot makes you scum necessarily though.

Unvote

I really wish this deadline wasn't coinciding with my exams, it's stressing me out and I have a much higher chance to misvote at this period in time.

Mod: What time is the deadline on the sixteenth?

[TrustGossip]

MoS: Why are you voting SSF?

Because he is a pretty good third-party candidate for lynch.

[Cephrir]

Skitzer being an awful lurker doesn't somehow excuse you; lurking is anti-town, regardless of what your alignment is.

For the second time, why do you want Phate lynched?

He's been giving me a scum vibe all day. See: my first post. I don't really care for his attitude towards lynching Miztef either, but that's not the important reason.

[Mastermind of Sin]

This is ridiculous. Is the current page just a series of scum crawling out of the woodwork to post votes on people before deadline or is it just a bunch of townies fooling around because they have no better idea!

Skitzer, I fail to believe you had an ulterior motive to gambit with your recent activity, especially since you posted SUPER SECRET PLAN on the post. I don't think being an idiot makes you scum necessarily though.

Unvote

I really wish this deadline wasn't coinciding with my exams, it's stressing me out and I have a much higher chance to misvote at this period in time.

Mod: What time is the deadline on the sixteenth?

It doesn't look like they're going to bother to go after anyone else, though..

I will vote Cephrir if we have not lynched Flea by the end of tomorrow.