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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:22 am

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Okay. We are missing three delegates:

Narninian, delegate from Angola, has been PMed.
EPR., delegate from Brazil, is at summer camp until August 8th and will not be replaced at least until then.
NanookTheWolf, delegate from Pakistan, is missing.

I will be replacing the delegate from Pakistan.

Role call is otherwise finished, as we are at a reasonable quorum.

MUNSCM 007 is failed by sufficient votes against. If there are any motions pertaining to this, I will consider them. Otherwise, I suggest we move to the next item on the Agenda, whatever that happens to be right now. I will also entertain motions that ammend the Agenda.
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:02 am

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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:03 pm

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Mister Chairman, The United States motions for the opening of debate on the next item of the agenda.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:23 am

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treznor, delegate from Pakistan, will be replacing Nanook, delegate from Pakistan.

I believe that motion is in order, delegate from the USA, so I call on the submitter of the next resolution on the agenda, the UK, to submit their resolution.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:58 am

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Having reviewed the material that Nanook, the previous Pakistan delegate left for me, I look forward to taking an active role in these negotiations.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:33 am

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MUNSCM 011: Nuclear Strike and Sundry

Emphasizing the American delegate's vehement attacks on Romania, wasting of time through motions with no purpose, and overall lack of any positive contribution to these proceedings.

Acknowledging that the implied course of action requires a reconsideration of policy.

Noting that a resolution raising issues not previously debated will probably require ammendment.

1. Sanctions and requires a nuclear strike on the United States of America.

2. Requires that, in the event that America is found not to be a member of the axis of evil, that clauses 2 through 4 of MUNSCM 011 be struck down.

2. Ammends MUNSCM 003 clause 2 to read "Requires that the weapons inspectors' report be sent to the same nation selected for MABM protection."

3. Ammends MUNSCM 003 clause 3 to read "Requires that weapons inspectors be sent to another nation randomly selected by the chair."

4. Ammends MUNSCM 003 clause 4 to read "4. Requires that the nation inspected not have veto power, and that the nation receiving the report have veto power."

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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:19 am

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The Delegate from Romania seconds the resolution.

However, I do ask the Delegate from the UK to joint he speakers lists and explain Clause 2 and 3 as they are slightly confusing. I would also request that all members allow the submitter to be the first speaker.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:37 am

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The Delegate from Algeria wishes to be added to the speakers list, but would like to hear the United Kingdom's ellaboration of his Resolution concerning the United States.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:20 pm

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Obviously, I must go on the Speaker's list, Mr. Chairman. The United States motions to be at the bottom of the speaker's list, speaking very last.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:47 am

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Point of Information directed towards the Chair:
If the actions taken in the first second clause of this resolution come into effect, will MUNSCUM 003 be restored to the state in which it is currently?
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:56 am

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Thank you delegate from the UK for presenting MUNSCM 011.

The speaker's list is now open


Delegate from Romania, as seconder you are expected to speak immediately on the resolution. Unfortunately, there is no provision for allowing the submitter to speak first. This is why resolutions should be written clearly and consisely. If the members of the Council cannot understand the clauses, how is the world supposed to? Instead... the delegate from the UK will have to request to be on the speaker's list AND a motion will have to be made to move him to the top of the list. All after Romania speaks.

Delegate from the USA, your request cannot really be honoured, as I cannot continually move you to the bottom of the list as people are added. Perhaps a motion could be passed allowing something similar. The chair must follow procedures unless otherwise "motioned".

Delegate from Russia, I don't like causal resolutions... Especially ones that require retroactive changes to themselves. However, the spirit of the resolution is allowed (it probably could be phrased better... perhaps an if/then statement). Thus I will allow this somewhat confusing resolution to stand, and answer your question with "yes".

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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:53 am

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Point of Information directed towards the Chair:
Would it be possible to submit a motion forcing the Delegate from the United Kingdom to join the speakers list?
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:02 am

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Point of information directed at the speaker:
Am I correct, in your opinion, in understanding this resolution as asserting, one, the delegate from the UK's belief that the United States is in the Axis of Evil; two, that assuming this is so, there are no other evil countries with veto power, and the investigation of nonveto countries should commence immediately; and three, that if this turns out not to be so, the surviving veto countries should be investigated as per the original plan of MUNSCM 003?
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:41 am

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The delegate United Kingdom requests to be added to the speaker's list and motions to be be moved to the top, speaking directly after Romania.

Also, the delegate from the United Kingdom apologizes for any confusion arising from his admittedly complex resolution.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:53 pm

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The delegate from Russia seconds the motion that the United Kingdom be moved to the top of the speakers' list.
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:08 pm

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Mr. Chairman, the United States already HAS motioned to be placed at the bottom. At a matter of such grave consequence, I must say that it will only provide for me an adequate defense if I can counter all claims by other countries adequately.
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:28 pm

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if the Benin delegate is talking to me then yes to all you asked.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:16 pm

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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:07 am

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if im still the current speaker, ill step down.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:25 pm

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Point of Information to the Chair
: Can the delegate from Romania be forced to actually SPEAK on behalf of the resolution?
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:50 am

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*bump* i believe the delegate from the UK is now the speaker
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:11 am

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The UK
Votes in favor
of the motion and encourages other delegates to vote, as well as to read the most recent page of the thread.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:32 pm

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PolarBoy wrote:The UK
Votes in favor
of the motion and encourages other delegates to vote, as well as to read the most recent page of the thread.
what exactly are you voting on? there isnt a vote currently.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:44 pm

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PolarBoy wrote:The delegate United Kingdom requests to be added to the speaker's list and
motions to be be moved to the top, speaking directly after Romania.


Also, the delegate from the United Kingdom apologizes for any confusion arising from his admittedly complex resolution.
emphasis mine.

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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:17 pm

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Ahhh. I failed to realize that the motion had not already been passed.
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