Open 53: Near-Vanilla - Game over!

[RossWilliam]

My gut is telling me he's scum. I could see how he could simply be newb townie though, but i think he's trying to hide behind that image. We'll see. I'm not opposed to unvoting, but for now? He's scum, in my eyes.

[killa seven]

im glad your following your gut ross.

[Crub]

Ross what do you think about Klebian? What do you think about Shanba?

[neko2086]

Crub, what do you think of Klebian (specifically)? Justin already asked you this, and looking back, I don't think you've ever given any solid reasons for suspecting him.

RW, now that it's D2, is there anything other than gut that is pointing to k7 as being scum? Is it mostly his D2 play that makes you think so?

[Crub]

Crub, what do you think of Klebian (specifically)? Justin already asked you this, and looking back, I don't think you've ever given any solid reasons for suspecting him.

RW, now that it's D2, is there anything other than gut that is pointing to k7 as being scum? Is it mostly his D2 play that makes you think so?

I will answer, but I'd prefer to wait for Ross first.

[RossWilliam]

Yes, of course it's more than gut. I find his lack of wordiness, impulsiveness, and tendacy to waver all a mask to hide scumminess behind. Gut is just whats pushing me to vote instead of simply FoS.

I didn't like how klebian flip-flopped right of the bat. He was quick to tell me I was wrong, but once a more experianced player supported my opinions, he backed down speedily. I felt almost like he was trying to paint suspicion on me based on my lack of experiance, assuming that I would be less able to defend myself? I didn't like that.

I don't have much to say about Shanba.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

skitzer, JDodge, TSN, care to share your thoughts?

The events of Day 1 confuse me. We had two townies on the stand, me and melodyman, (which I know you all can't know that, but bear with me), and out of nowhere, a third bandwagon pops up on jdodge. I'm not sure if this was borne out of town dissatisfaction with the available choices, or potential scum bussing with the expectation that jdodge wouldn't be lynched. . . in any case, I would not oppose another jdodge wagon.

Vote jdodge.

[Shanba]

TSN, what makes you think a late quick bandwagon is likely to be on a scum and not scum driven?

[Crub]

WTF I'm confused ... According to you the scum have 2 townie bandwagons to choose from but instead they decide they're going to buss a scum partner?

I hope you're sharing whatever you're smoking dude

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Er, or the less comical option that jdodge is scum and town were on his wagon.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I didn't explain that very well in my first post, in retrospect.

[Shanba]

So your theory is that a faction of townies, revolted by the heinous lynchwagons set forth by the unholy scum, broke free of the repression and founded a new wagon in daylight on scum?

[killa seven]

^ rofl and lol at crub also.. these posts had me laughin for a good minute

[Hjallti]

Fixed deadline:
This day will end not later than apr 4th, CET 10.00 am.

Official Vote Count

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch before deadline.

klebian

: 1 (Crub)

JDodge

: 2 (killa seven, TheSweatpantsNinja)

killa seven

: 1 (RossWilliam)

Not voting

: 7 (skitzer, JDodge, klebian, neko2086, Shanba, Justin Playfair, Korlash)

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

So your theory is that a faction of townies, revolted by the heinous lynchwagons set forth by the unholy scum, broke free of the repression and founded a new wagon in daylight on scum?

Viva la revolucion!

It seems improbable that it was a scum-driven wagon, in any case. Which doesn't mean that jdodge is scum, but its not like his play's been particularly pro-town, you know what I'm saying?

Of course, you (shanba) think I'm scum, so your mileage may vary.

[Korlash]

I like how Crub completly avoided talking about Kleb...

[JDodge]

So your theory is that a faction of townies, revolted by the heinous lynchwagons set forth by the unholy scum, broke free of the repression and founded a new wagon in daylight on scum?

Viva la revolucion!

It seems improbable that it was a scum-driven wagon, in any case. Which doesn't mean that jdodge is scum, but its not like his play's been particularly pro-town, you know what I'm saying?

Of course, you (shanba) think I'm scum, so your mileage may vary.

How has my play been anti-town?

[Korlash]

How has my play been anti-town?

Well it all started the moment you booted up your computer...

Just spiraled downhill from there...

[neko2086]

How has my play been anti-town?

I don't see how it has been pro-town, really. You've yet to really contribute to this game. If your playstyle is deliberate, what do you feel you have accomplished?

Also, do you have any thoughts concerning the events of D1? Since you really didn't say much D1, I would hope you would have had the chance to make some observations that could potentially help us today. I would also like to know what drove you to your final vote.


Crub, RW has spoken. Did you get the information you were hoping for?

[JDodge]

How has my play been anti-town?

I don't see how it has been pro-town, really. You've yet to really contribute to this game. If your playstyle is deliberate, what do you feel you have accomplished?

Also, do you have any thoughts concerning the events of D1? Since you really didn't say much D1, I would hope you would have had the chance to make some observations that could potentially help us today. I would also like to know what drove you to your final vote.


Crub, RW has spoken. Did you get the information you were hoping for?

Do you agree with the following statement about behaviours: not pro-town = anti-town?

[klebian]

jdodge i was thinking about that question and I think I would agree
not being pro-town is not directly anti-town
however, you are detracting from discussion because it is too often focusing on you (the person who is not being protown) when you are just messing around, so it indirectly hurts the town and so I would call it antitown

[neko2086]

Generally, I do. I understand that some people act like assholes to try to draw scummy reactions, but unfortunately, it can draw the same reactions from town, so it really doesn't end up being that helpful. In my mind, the town should always be as helpful as possible. Not doing so risks misleading the town, and that should never be allowable to a townie.

Now, if there is signifigant evidence pointing to somebody being town, such as an investigation or something like that, they absolutely should not be lynch because of "policy" or anything like that. But, at this point of the game, I don't feel like we have any reason to believe that you are town. So, I'll ask you again: What do you feel you have contributed to this game? If you believe that not acting pro-town is helping us at all, please share your thoughts. I'd also like you to address my other questions/concerns.

[Crub]

I like how Crub completly avoided talking about Kleb...

I'm still digesting. Basically kleb is at the top of my list, for reasons that I'd rather not disclose, I'm just trying to see what makes sense.

TSN what do you think of kleb?

[Korlash]

Still digesting? It normally takes me a good 8 hours to digest an entire home cooked meal! It's taken you what... over a week so far to digest your vote... I know a thing or two about things not making sense, I know... Hard to believe... But whatever floats your boat, I can wait... Just hope it's good...

[Crub]

I'm not digesting my vote. I know why I'm voting kleb, I'm digesting the plausability of a klebian/shanba/? scum team and trying to figure out if that actually fits and who could possibly be the third member.