Open 60: The New C9 - Game over!

[MadCrawdad]

Spacecase hasn't said much to ease my mind. He still refuses to answer any direct requests to further explain his quick reversal on Kab.

Also, a couple of things he said early on Day 1 seemed a little shifty: When curiouskarmadog ended up dead early on, Spacecase seemed pretty willing to try to cast suspicion on anyone who played with CKD in prior games. Even though he never even played with CKD, Spacecase referred to CKD as the 'most analytical person' in the game, which was definitely odd, as no one who had played with CKD even said that (at least not in the thread).

So what we are basically saying is that we interrogate the "veteran" players, right?

but that's the thing. It had to be deliberate to take the most analytical person out of the game on night 0.

I don't want a repeat of yesterday, but the fact that Spacecase has gone into hiding seems to be strengthening the case against him.

FoS: Spacecase

[vollkan]

I don't want a repeat of yesterday, but the fact that Spacecase has gone into hiding seems to be strengthening the case against him.

Or he is just a newb that has given up because he is under attack (I've seen newbs do this regardless of alignment).

[-TinVision-]

Second Vote Count of the Day

Spacecase - 2 (Shteven, farside22)
Shteven - 1 (Oman)
MelodyMan23 - 1 (Rigel)

Not voting - 9 (

Jesse Gunn, LaptopGun, Spacecase, The Fonz, somestrangeflea, vollkan, MadCrawdad, Phate, MelodyMan23

)

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

A lot of prods will be going out this evening. Unless the pace of posting picks back up, a deadline may be set.

[Rigel]

Spacecase hasn't been defending himself well when he is here, and hasn't been here at all since Saturday. Methinks a vote is in order.

Vote: Spacecase
FOS: MelodyMan23

That last is just so that the latter isn't ignored in my vote changing. I still think that MelodyMan23 needs to answer for his actions (or lack thereof), but Spacecase has much more evidence against him than inactivity.

[LaptopGun]

I will agree with volkan. If he is a newbie, I dont see a lot to gain by piling a bunch of votes on Spacecase. I hope it doesn't scare him off. I see nothing scummy presing him, I will just caution that I would prefer to not scare him off and need to integrate another replacement into the game. Of coure it's just as likely he isn't comming back and really his replacement will have the lovely task of trying to convince everyone he is town. Argh. This game makes my head hurt.

[vollkan]

Rigel, why do you think Spacecase is not posting?

[Oman]

Lynch all Lurkers. Post or Perish.

Unvote Vote Spacecase

Thats almost a week.

[vollkan]

Actually, it's only been 4 days since he last posted.

[Oman]

Since saturday. Thats 5 days in my book. Oh well.

[somestrangeflea]

Listen the lynch was better then no lynch at all.

I don't think there was an imminent deadline No-Lynch.
The lynch was, indeed, better than no-lynch.

But did you genuinely believe no-lynch was a possibility?

Your views did a complete 180, and you made no mention of wanting to avert a No Lynch (not that that is necessarily a justification anyway). The fact that no lynch is usually better than lynch does not mean that you can backflip and jump on the largest wagon and then find yourself being held culpable unreasonable.

this.

[-TinVision-]

dahill1 replaces MelodyMan23.

[dahill1]

hello everybody
i just want to point out that i've also replaced melodyman in another game as well, so i believe that his low post content is just due to not being online

[dahill1]

also it was pretty scummy for jesse to claim cop and not be one, but on the other hand justin never confronted him

Still... Fos: Jesse

[Shteven]

also it was pretty scummy for jesse to claim cop and not be one, but on the other hand justin never confronted him

Still... Fos: Jesse

Can you prove that he wasn't one? The setup includes the possibility of 0, 1 or 2 cops. Justin's death does not disprove Jesse's claim. SixAces being scum does not prove Jesse is a cop - however it's very strong evidence to suggest he is.

[dahill1]

oh right! i totally forgot about the 2 cops my bad

[vollkan]

Welcome dahill.

Listen the lynch was better then no lynch at all.

I don't think there was an imminent deadline No-Lynch.
The lynch was, indeed, better than no-lynch.

But did you genuinely believe no-lynch was a possibility?

Your views did a complete 180, and you made no mention of wanting to avert a No Lynch (not that that is necessarily a justification anyway). The fact that no lynch is usually better than lynch does not mean that you can backflip and jump on the largest wagon and then find yourself being held culpable unreasonable.

this.

Could you clarify why you quote me here?

[dahill1]

Spacecase hasn't said much to ease my mind. He still refuses to answer any direct requests to further explain his quick reversal on Kab.

Good point

FoS: Spacecase

[dahill1]

just a heads up to the mod

i'll be gone for the next 4 days, so for now

Vote: Spacecase

please don't replace me!

[vollkan]

*facepalm*

@dahill1: Explain why you think spacecase is scum.

That puts spacecase at L-2. I note with interest that the last three votes have all been justified explicitly on the basis of Spacecase's lack of posting.

[Oman]

Yes, I'm not sold on spacecase lynch. But he's lurking fairly heavily when under attack, which IMO is a newbie scum sign (newbie towns tend to cry and pray for life).

[Shteven]

oh right! i totally forgot about the 2 cops my bad

So you thought there was only 1 cop; he was dead, and we had a claimed cop. Therefore, the claimed cop was lying.

This wasn't enough for a vote? Only worth a fos?

just a heads up to the mod i'll be gone for the next 4 days, so for now Vote: Spacecase
please don't replace me!

This could certainly be legit, but it's looking a bit like "I'd like to push the lynch for day 2 with as little accountability as humanly possible."

[Oman]

taking 4 days off a game just to vote one player doesn't sound efficent.

[Phate]

This is probably a bit hypocritical on my part, given my lack of posting, but I'm not a fan of lurker lynches, and SpaceCase's wagon is growing really fast. I don't like it.

[The Fonz]

oh right! i totally forgot about the 2 cops my bad

So you thought there was only 1 cop; he was dead, and we had a claimed cop. Therefore, the claimed cop was lying.

This deserves an answer. It does seem that if you genuinely thought Jesse had been caught in a lie, it would be more than 'a bit scummy' and FOS-worthy.

[farside22]

This is probably a bit hypocritical on my part, given my lack of posting, but I'm not a fan of lurker lynches, and SpaceCase's wagon is growing really fast. I don't like it.

Note: spacecase has been sitting at 2 votes for a week with no response and the response he did have in regards to his comments were weak.