Mini 549 (Tarhalindur Mostly Mountainous) - Game Over

[Johoohno]

Sorry to hear that Ecto (a bit of a human touch in an otherwis cold, harsh game climate).

@ Battousai: What kind of response are you looking for? I've stated my case and Tamuz has commented on that. Now it is up to you and everyone else to see and think for yourself.

Also, in this game there has to be a great number townies who is making scum life a lot easier since there is A LOT of anti-town actions going on here (lurking, personal vendettas, childish attacks and so on).

I say we desperately need a lynch this first day to get something to analyze day 2. (I realize that I might very well be that lynch but if that is the case, so be it, it'll help during day 2 no matter alignment of the lynchee, though a scum lynch is by far the best.)

I am voting for SlySly right now, but if anyone else of those two that I've got on my scum list (Tamuz, Rosso) is closing in for a lynch I might be interested in pursuing that instead.

[Rosso Carne]

ill be gone for up to all of next week.

[Tarhalindur]

No progress on replacing Tamuz or Fat_Tony. Sigh.

I'd really like to see a lynch soon, for the sake of the game, but I really don't want to force you to make a decision with 2 players missing.

Also, sorry for the continued mod activity issues. Flu is still being a bit of a problem. -Tar

Forty-First Vote Count

Rosso Carne (4) - thenextepisode, nyktorion, Fat_Tony (rep. Blackberry), RangeroftheNorth (rep. Dean Harper)
SlySly (1) - Johoohno
thenextepisode (1) - Rosso Carne
Johoohno (4) - Tamuz, Battousai (rep. ryan), Jester, SlySly

Not Voting (2) - Ectomancer, Earwig

7 votes to lynch.

FoS Count:

Rosso Carne (1) - Jester
Fat_Tony (rep. Blackberry) (2) - thenextepisode, Jester
Ectomancer (2) - Earwig, thenextepisode
Earwig (3) - Ectomancer, RangeroftheNorth, Jester
Battousai (rep. ryan) (1) - Ectomancer
Tamuz (2) - Battousai, Ectomancer
thenextepisode (1) - Fat_Tony (rep. Blackberry)
Johoohno (2) - Nyktorion, Jester

Indigo

indicates a player in danger of replacement.

Final Day 1 Deadline:

NONE DUE TO EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES

[Battousai]

I think a forced lynched is going to be necessary for the day, as it seems that no one is willing to switch their vote.

[Ectomancer]

We are missing two people. I'm not lynching anybody with 18% of the town needing to be replaced unless we want to lynch Tamuz and spare both our mod and the replacement from dealing with a role that I think is scum and plan to lynch at some point anyhow.

[Tarhalindur]

Forty-Second Vote Count

Rosso Carne (4) - thenextepisode, nyktorion, Fat_Tony (rep. Blackberry), RangeroftheNorth (rep. Dean Harper)
SlySly (1) - Johoohno
thenextepisode (1) - Rosso Carne
Johoohno (4) - Tamuz, Battousai (rep. ryan), Jester, SlySly

Not Voting (2) - Ectomancer, Earwig

7 votes to lynch.

FoS Count:

Rosso Carne (1) - Jester
Fat_Tony (rep. Blackberry) (2) - thenextepisode, Jester
Ectomancer (2) - Earwig, thenextepisode
Earwig (3) - Ectomancer, RangeroftheNorth, Jester
Battousai (rep. ryan) (1) - Ectomancer
Tamuz (2) - Battousai, Ectomancer
thenextepisode (1) - Fat_Tony (rep. Blackberry)
Johoohno (2) - Nyktorion, Jester

Indigo

indicates a player in danger of replacement.

Final Day 1 Deadline:

NONE DUE TO EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES

[Jester]

I'm back! Catching up with all of my games, though nothing huge jumped out at me in this one (other than Tamuz dropping out, which made my eyebrows go up a bit). Full catch-up post in a couple of hours.

[Jester]

Hi all, sorry about my long absence. Got tapped to help with an event at work all last week, and I'm currently catching up with my games.

And lord knows that if I was a vig I would kill Battousai right now for the town's sake.

Personally, I think Ectomancer has blown this entire thing way out of proportion. ... This entire argument seems somewhat silly.

ROTN, QFT. Tamuz quitting the game initially raised my eyebrows, but it now seems pretty clear that he and Battousai have some kind of serious history. I have to admit that there are players on this site that I will not join games with. There are even a couple that I would consider dropping out of a game I was in if they replaced into it. Tamuz's bitterness about this past situation was bad for the town, but Ecto hounding him about it was worse for the town. I think I'm going to ignore this entire exchange until and unless there is a reason on a later game day to exhume it. In the meantime, Ecto, you handled that entire exchange, with both of these players very,

very

badly. You took one statement out of context and read

way

too much into it, IMO. I still think you're pro-town, and I'm gonna hope your emotions just got the better of you.

I really only have one option here. DEADLINE RETRACTED.

Am I allowed to say that I think this was kind of a bad move? Neither Tamuz nor Fat_Tony were major drivers in the game. I'd be inclined to either remove or retain both of their votes, get on with the deadline, see who gets NK'ed, and deal with replacing them day two. Second?

Update if anyone cared: I got my results back from my MRI, and though its not good news, at least I have a diagnosis. Ive got a degenerative spine condition called Cervical Spinal Stenosis.

Again, owie. I will hope the non-invasive therapy works wonders, Ecto.

And that's it. I'm again caught up. No major changes to my suspicions and I'm still happy with my vote right where it is. Johoohno, your defense against my attack was laughably weak, your failure to follow up Slysly and Tamuz shredding your own attacks even more so. You're not even trying to look townish any more.

Ecto, RC and Earwig are not voting and are not major factors in this game, so it looks like you've got the deciding vote. We're not gonna lynch Tamuz today, so who's your second choice?

[Tarhalindur]

Mozsuggs replaces Fat_Tony, effective as soon as he posts in the thread. Thank you Mozsuggs!

Deadline reimplemented, since I doubt that I will be able to get a replacement for Tamuz before deadline.

Forty-Second Vote Count

Rosso Carne (3) - thenextepisode, nyktorion, RangeroftheNorth (rep. Dean Harper)
SlySly (1) - Johoohno
thenextepisode (1) - Rosso Carne
Johoohno (4) - Tamuz, Battousai (rep. ryan), Jester, SlySly

Not Voting (3) - mozsuggs (rep. Fat_Tony who rep. Blackberry), Ectomancer, Earwig

7 votes to lynch.

FoS Count:

Rosso Carne (1) - Jester
Fat_Tony (rep. Blackberry) (2) - thenextepisode, Jester
Ectomancer (2) - Earwig, thenextepisode
Earwig (3) - Ectomancer, RangeroftheNorth, Jester
Battousai (rep. ryan) (1) - Ectomancer
Tamuz (2) - Battousai, Ectomancer
Johoohno (2) - Nyktorion, Jester

Indigo

indicates a player in danger of replacement.

Final Day 1 Deadline:

March 17, 2008 at ~12:00 A.M, GMT -6

[Nyktorion]

Am I allowed to say that I think this was kind of a bad move? Neither Tamuz nor Fat_Tony were major drivers in the game. I'd be inclined to either remove or retain both of their votes, get on with the deadline, see who gets NK'ed, and deal with replacing them day two. Second?

Ecto, RC and Earwig are not voting and are not major factors in this game, so it looks like you've got the deciding vote. We're not gonna lynch Tamuz today, so who's your second choice?

Jester, I don't like the "finally get over with the day" mentality that stems from the qouted parts of your post #482. Yes, Tamuz and Fat_Tony were really not important players, but seeing the thoughts of their replacements before the first night would still help our Day 2.

If the votes on stay as they are, then Ecto's vote is surely an influential one, but your post looks like you try to pressure him into his decision too quickly.

FOS: Jester

[mozsuggs]

Hello. I am a replacement but i cant remember who for.
Good start

Plus, I am a "mafia roleblocker"-that mean anything to anyone?
Still pretty new to all this.

[mozsuggs]

Sorry-I read the above posts-I am replacing Fat Tony.

[thenextepisode]

HAHAHAHAAHAH.
are you serious?
did you really just claim mafia?

[RangeroftheNorth]

What? I'm very confused by your statement mozsuggs. What do you mean by saying that you are a Mafia Roleblocker? Why did you say it? You really had better clarify this in a hurry, or I think we'll have found a new lynch candidate for today.

Unvote

[Tarhalindur]

Cool, I think we have a full house again. Mizzy replaces Tamuz, effective as soon as she posts in the thread. Thank you Mizzy!

Forty-Third? Vote Count

Rosso Carne (2) - thenextepisode, Nyktorion
SlySly (1) - Johoohno
thenextepisode (1) - Rosso Carne
Johoohno (3) - Battousai (rep. ryan), Jester, SlySly

Not Voting (5) - mozsuggs (rep. Fat_Tony who rep. Blackberry), Ectomancer, Earwig, Mizzy (rep. Tamuz), RangeroftheNorth (rep. Dean Harper)

7 votes to lynch.

FoS Count:

Rosso Carne (1) - Jester
Fat_Tony (rep. Blackberry) (2) - thenextepisode, Jester
Ectomancer (2) - Earwig, thenextepisode
Earwig (3) - Ectomancer, RangeroftheNorth, Jester
Battousai (rep. ryan) (1) - Ectomancer
Tamuz (2) - Battousai (rep. ryan), Ectomancer
Johoohno (2) - Nyktorion, Jester

Indigo

indicates a player in danger of replacement.

Final Day 1 Deadline:

March 17, 2008 at ~12:00 A.M, GMT -6

[Mizzy]

Welcome, Tar! I'll be reading through in the next day or so.

[Mizzy]

Hold the phone. I read games backwards when I replace in and I see that someone has claimed mafia. What the hell?

...

*Keeps reading.*

[Johoohno]

Muzsuggs, your side bar says you're a mafia scum (i.e. has made more than 100 posts), yet you claims to be mafia role blocker. This is all very strange.

Some more information of your suspicions so far, and a comment on your claim would be enlightening!

[mozsuggs]

Yeah sorry about that, was just having a laugh.
I need to read the whole thread, will post again when i have time.

[Jester]

Jester, I don't like the "finally get over with the day" mentality that stems from the qouted parts of your post #482. Yes, Tamuz and Fat_Tony were really not important players, but seeing the thoughts of their replacements before the first night would still help our Day 2.

I understand how this would be suspicious, so I'll explain it. We're now 5 days from deadline. I once replaced into a game about this size at the end of day 2 with a looming deadline, and it took me 8 days to read the game. By the time I'd finished my read, the deadline happened and I was night-killed.

Fortunately, I got enough comments (and a vote) in before the deadline to be helpful to the game and help lynch a scum, but it didn't stop the fact that I went through a tremendous amount of labor for only a little gain.

I've been in other games where a deadline was pushed back two weeks so that replacements could catch up, only to have someone else drop out, more replacements come in, and the deadline get pushed back even farther. It's a tough line for a game mod here to walk.

As a result, I'm now generally in favor of letting a scheduled deadline happen and then handling replacements on the following game day.

All that said, Mizzy, mozsuggs, welcome to the game! Read fast...

P.S. I took mozsugg's "claim" to be a joke, but it sure surprised me, heh. If you really are scum, mozsuggs, I'll nominate you for "funniest role claim" next year.

[Jester]

Oh, and just for the sheer pointlessness of it,

mod, please prod Earwig

.

I think I'm gonna request a prod on Earwig every time he goes four days without posting from here until the point where either he or I are dead. It's incredibly stupid that one of the most experienced players in this game is sitting it out.

[mozsuggs]

VOTE EARWIG

[SlySly]

unvote

vote:mozsuggs

Claiming scum is a lynchable offense.

[Earwig]

Vote: mozsuggs

for out of the blue voting me and not giving reason.

I have suspicions on several people, butam not voting because I am having a hard time with re-reading. I can't get it done in one session, and have to start all over again.

I will unvote if given a valid reason for the vote.

[Earwig]

Claiming scum is a lynchable offense.

It is in the rules. I got put n notice for joking about it early on.