Open 53: Near-Vanilla - Game over!

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Klebian hasn't done anything that's overtly tripped my scumdar. I'm not really sure what you see.

[Hjallti]

Fixed deadline:
This day will end not later than apr 4th, CET 10.00 am.

Official Vote Count

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch before deadline.

klebian

: 1 (Crub)

JDodge

: 2 (killa seven, TheSweatpantsNinja)

killa seven

: 1 (RossWilliam)

Not voting

: 7 (skitzer, JDodge, klebian, neko2086, Shanba, Justin Playfair, Korlash)

[neko2086]

JDodge, I had questions for you I'd like answered.

K7, Justin had a question for you that you've not answered.

Korlash, earlier you were trying to decide whether to vote for K7 or Klebian. You asked Crub if he could give you a reason to vote Klebian over K7, and since he hasn't revealed anything, you haven't voted. Perhaps you ought to share your thoughts first. Are those still the two you're thinking of voting for? Whom are you more likely to vote for at the moment?

Crub, can you at least tell us what made you think there might be a klebian-shanba connection? Please answer this only after Korlash has answered.

[Korlash]

Crub, can you at least tell us what made you think there might be a klebian-shanba connection? Please answer this only after Korlash has answered.

What? Why?

Vote: Crub

I'm more likely to vote for Crub as I think jsut repeating something over and over and ignoring other's requests is scummy...

[JDodge]

JDodge, I had questions for you I'd like answered.

K7, Justin had a question for you that you've not answered.

Korlash, earlier you were trying to decide whether to vote for K7 or Klebian. You asked Crub if he could give you a reason to vote Klebian over K7, and since he hasn't revealed anything, you haven't voted. Perhaps you ought to share your thoughts first. Are those still the two you're thinking of voting for? Whom are you more likely to vote for at the moment?

Crub, can you at least tell us what made you think there might be a klebian-shanba connection? Please answer this only after Korlash has answered.

Indeed you did. And I fully intend to answer - just not right now. Maybe later when I have the time to.

[Crub]

Crub, can you at least tell us what made you think there might be a klebian-shanba connection? Please answer this only after Korlash has answered.

What? Why?

Vote: Crub

I'm more likely to vote for Crub as I think jsut repeating something over and over and ignoring other's requests is scummy...

lulz

[klebian]

... is that all you're going to say?
I'm gonna

vote: crub

as well, because you're pointlessly wasting our time and there is a fixed deadline which is obviously getting closer and closer
but discussion is not really picking up

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'm more likely to vote for Crub as I think jsut repeating something over and over and ignoring other's requests is scummy.

Is it really? Its not particularly helpful, sure, but its not like crub has a monopoly on that. Why are scum more likely to do that than town?

[Crub]

... is that all you're going to say?
I'm gonna

vote: crub

as well, because you're pointlessly wasting our time and there is a fixed deadline which is obviously getting closer and closer
but discussion is not really picking up

Yeah it is all I'm going to say. What Korlash said was laughable, which is why I laughed. You OMGUS'ing me like that isn't really doing anything to make me feel any better about your alignment.

[Korlash]

Lulz to you too buddy! =D Lulz indeed...

[RossWilliam]

Where did K7 go? right now I'm thinking K7 and Crub scumpair, but I could be wrong about Crub. I want K7 to respond to Justin pretty bad, and until he does I have no concerns about my vote on him

[killa seven]

Killa Seven: You revoted JDodge immediately at the start of this day. Does this mean that you have a certainty that he is scum, and if so, what is your certainty based on?

Thank you all for any answers.

i was on the j dodge bandwagon the day before and we didnt lynch him we lynched a townie so why would i leave the bandwagon just because the day started over, and it was a strong bandwagon and j dodge still hasnt defended himself really at all in day 1 or day 2 so im keepin my vote on him unless he showes a turn around or someone does something overly scummy.

[RossWilliam]

what was your reasons for joining the wagon in the first place? Other than fuck it?

[killa seven]

^ i posted fuck it because i was in a rush and was tryna be a lil funny and had 10 mins to get to work and wanted to get my vote in after reading the thread i came back after work and explained it.

[klebian]

... is that all you're going to say?
I'm gonna

vote: crub

as well, because you're pointlessly wasting our time and there is a fixed deadline which is obviously getting closer and closer
but discussion is not really picking up

Yeah it is all I'm going to say. What Korlash said was laughable, which is why I laughed. You OMGUS'ing me like that isn't really doing anything to make me feel any better about your alignment.

Maybe what korlash said was laughable but he's not the only person asking you to give some reasoning

also i don't frankly care whether my OMGUS makes you not feel better about my alignment because I have some actual basis behind the vote

[Crub]

... is that all you're going to say?
I'm gonna

vote: crub

as well, because you're pointlessly wasting our time and there is a fixed deadline which is obviously getting closer and closer
but discussion is not really picking up

Yeah it is all I'm going to say. What Korlash said was laughable, which is why I laughed. You OMGUS'ing me like that isn't really doing anything to make me feel any better about your alignment.

Maybe what korlash said was laughable but he's not the only person asking you to give some reasoning

also i don't frankly care whether my OMGUS makes you not feel better about my alignment because I have some actual basis behind the vote

Over-reaction to one vote for (seemingly) baseless or bogus reasons, I find to be a scum tell. <3

[Justin Playfair]

Killa Seven,

When you say you gave reasons after your expletive post are you referring to this post:

well j dodge hasnt posted anything in ages except, 2 one sentance posts, and tsn atleas tries to defend himself and answer questions.. cant say the same for j dodge, and mm seems like a new guy making a few mistakes, he should atleast get another day to redeem himsef.
however im not completely commited to my vote.

Because aside from you saying you’re not committed to the vote, which would make an immediate next day revote perhaps something which would need a bit of explanation, the totality of your reasoning is that JDodge is lurking, which would seem a curious thing to settle for when we had a new day on which to investigate. More curious yet, considering the results of the last lurker lynch town committed to. So did you believe, waking up on the second day, that another lurker lynch was the best town would be able to manage on day two?

Or is it this post:

im comfortable with my vote now, j dodge made a joke after the 1st vote on him like he dont care " dun dun dun" doesnt even ask why ay of the votes are on him or defends himself.. i mean i exspected him to ask me a question or something.

Why do you believe that a lack of defense from someone who is clearly purposefully lurking would make it more likely they were scum?

Thank you for your answers.

[Justin Playfair]

Crub,

Repeating over and over again that you find Klebian scummy without making a case isn't helping to lynch him. Which, if you really believe he is scum, you would seemingly wish to see happen.

Trying to discover who Klebian's partners might be before you establish that Klebian is scum seems a rather disingenuous reason for delaying giving us the reasons for your suspicions.

You said you would do so after Ross Williams answered you. You have now reneged on that. You began to broadcast your suspicion of Klebian on day one which makes me believe something Klebian did on day one made you suspicious of him.

Would you be willing to tell us what initial actions of Klebian on day one first began to make you suspicious?

I would very much like an answer to this question.

[Crub]

Firstly I picked klebian semi-randomly off the list of voters, just putting my vote on someone I'm slightly suspicious off and gauging reactions.

Over-reaction to one vote for (seemingly) baseless or bogus reasons, I find to be a scum tell. <3

I gauged reactions. I did not like what I saw. Also I do not like the interaction between Shanba and klebian during that whole period of posting.

[Hjallti]

Could you tell me who to prod please....

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Apparently, just about everyone. Crub, could you be more specific as to what you didn't like?

[neko2086]

Much of what I have to say depends on how JDodge responds to my questions/concerns.

Mod

, It looks like skitzer and shanba haven't posted in over a week, so they should probably be prodded.

[neko2086]

ebwop, it looks like shanba is gone for the week, so just a

prod

on skitzer for now

[skitzer]

Sorry.

I'm not sure I see the big point on Crub. He may have been analysing something that needed this retrospect. If he's trying to help the game, let it be.

FoS: Korlash

for not answering his question and instead turning the point back on him.

[Korlash]

Uh... Somethings the matter with that FoS... perhaps its a syntax error... Define "him" then define which question I didn't answer.

My guess is your talking about TSN's question I don't see how I turned that back on anyone...