Large Normal 208 - Fireworks Festival [End]

[Nauci]

I think the instinct is for guys to be easier on girls, not that they have different tells. A lot of people believe that girls are more intuitive and empathetic, and thus maybe better at reading people, so maybe they might have more value. Also the male/female online ratio probably magnifies this. But logically I think a lot of this is a fallacy more than helpful in winning games.

Trust me the internet trend is *not* to be nicer to women.

[Transcend]

okay nauci let's play a game

whether there's 0, 1, 2, or even 3 scum that are counterwagons to you

if someone put a gun to your head aat this very second and they wouldn't pull the trigger if you correctly voted a mafia, who would you vote out of {math,smocaine,whiskers}

[TwoInAMillion]

I think the instinct is for guys to be easier on girls, not that they have different tells. A lot of people believe that girls are more intuitive and empathetic, and thus maybe better at reading people, so maybe they might have more value. Also the male/female online ratio probably magnifies this. But logically I think a lot of this is a fallacy more than helpful in winning games.

Trust me the internet trend is *not* to be nicer to women.

I was talking about mafiascum, not the internet in general. I would like to think that mafiascum is better behaved than the internet at large.

[Transcend]

no i legitimately think there are tells between males and females.

i really haven't pinpointed the female scumtell yet.

[Transcend]

and this is why i'm backpedaling a smidge because all my reads on you were perceived as if you were a male

[pienyan]

votecount 3.10

Nauci (4) - TwoInAMillion, Rhah, Flairs, Whiskers

Smocaine (3) - AxleGreaser, Nero Cain, MathBlade
MathBlade (3) - Lucky2u, Transcend, Smocaine
Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Viomi

Not voting (1) - Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

[Transcend]

math has 3 not 2

thanks for the consistent vcs tho

[Transcend]

i kinda think math is opportunistic scum over horrid town rn

don't like their angle shooting thus far

[pienyan]

math has 3 not 2

thanks for the consistent vcs tho

fix'd

[Transcend]

okay nauci let's play a game

whether there's 0, 1, 2, or even 3 scum that are counterwagons to you

if someone put a gun to your head aat this very second and they wouldn't pull the trigger if you correctly voted a mafia, who would you vote out of {math,smocaine,whiskers}

[AxleGreaser]

- gerry seems to just be

coasting

around, which is a scumread on anyone but gerry because in the one (two?) games I've been in,

coasting

is all they've really done.

Ok so your two games were: Large Normal 206 gerry iso and Mini normal 1921

I agree they were both quite a bit

coasting

, especially min normal 1921

Spoiler: serious coasting

Subject: Mini Normal 1921 - Town Win

i want to hear actual content from maria and gerry

to which he replied.
Subject: Mini Normal 1921 - Town Win

dont have any yet. leave a message at the tone and i'll get back to you when i have some. bye!

*beeeeeeeeeeeeep*

Spoiler: but there was real world reason

Subject: Mini Normal 1921 - Town Win

transcend, i still think you're scum based on meta, and double bussing is something that is still possible

VOTE: transcend

if you're town, sry.

i shouldnt even still be in this game cause of the minimal amount of effort i've put in this game cause i was on vacation, but i'd feel bad subbing out of games, so i'll see this to the end.

This I looked at earlier.

Spoiler: Large 206 is very lolsy and laissez-faire

and yes it is very lolsy
viewtopic.php?p=9549342&user_select%5B% ... 2#p9549342

OKAY im day cop with a guilty on osuka. lynch it.

but is quite unlike this game where:

on this basis of this evidence 3144 Gerry claims gerry was certain of his UCV read.

all those show certainty, so that read by axle is bullshit

Spoiler: But then gerry has no explanation why he failed to act in accordance with that claimed certainty all these times.

I already replied to you where i said i've been scumreading UC since day 1 and i explained, i'm not gonna keep going back and forth with you

yes i once I got you to commit to just how strong that scum read was. You have no explanation or reponse to this at all.

and all of it is contradictory to your claims about your reads certainty.

@Gerry

back in 3359 I asked you number of questions that you have chosen to ignore.
I have made them harder to ignore.

Question 1

referring to Gerry's3144 Gerry said

all those show certainty, so that read by axle is bullshit

If you were so certain.

Why so easily persuaded onto whiskers?

Question 2

If you were so certain.

VOTE: whiskers

okay you sold me

and if it >

truthfully

< sold you.
Then scum reading whiskers now would also be your read.

1. All of it sold me, but I don't want to change anymore. I want to follow my reads

Why if it sold you was Whiskers not then your read?
Are you agreeing that the claim it sold you was a lie?

Question 3

When the vote count was 2080 WHisk(4) Flubb(4) UCV(2)
If you were, as certain, as you claim to have been.

i just want day 1 to be over tbh.

VOTE: flubber

Why did you just want the day to be over

rather than try to get your "all those show certainty,"(3145) scum read lynched?
Deadline was still at that point several days away.

and then you seemed entirely flippant about who you lynched.

I Do Not Like This Wagon.

ok then i'll join another wagon VOTE: whiskers

What looked so good about the wagon?

That lucky wagon looks so good

It looks to me like you want wagon where no one will ask you why you are on it.
Especially not ask you for more than empty largely reasonless statements such as those listed in 3144

i'm not gonna keep going back and forth with you

The game is called mafia it involves talking to people. That is how you sort them out into town and scum. By responding that is how you let them sort you out.

You have something to hide and no explanation of your actions/intentions that you have been willing to provide. Your unwillingness speaks as loudly to your intent, as your earlier actions already have.

So I agree Gerry normal play is quite laid back, lolsy, laissez-faire, and number of polite euphamisms, including

coasting

.

I disagree that is complete and accurate assessment of what happened in this game.

What I don't see in that meta is Gerry claiming to have found scum with some certainty, and then not crowing about it from the roof tops.

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@Flairs

Question

Do you have examples where you have seem him find scum with some certainty then do nothing much about it?
and for instance Gerry:"just want day 1 to be over tbh." (while he has a claimed by him certain read on UCV).

[Transcend]

okay but gerry is out of the game

also from experience, meta'ing gerry is a bad idea.

so tell me what you think about smocaine since he's the person in the slot now

[Smocaine]

[Transcend]

betlejoice

[AxleGreaser]

okay but gerry is out of the game

Yes he is, right after i posted the questions he couldn't and wouldn't answer.

also from experience, meta'ing gerry is a bad idea.

I agree, gerry says so too. (I can get meta on him saying that if you like.)(I can even get meta on that being correct.)
BUT I am kinda sorta not.

Other people are excusing Gerrys blatantly scummy play with meta

, saying he always does that.
(go tell them it is bad idea. I have been.)
but when I actually look at his meta, either no he doesn't always do that. or what the did in this game is not what they said he did. He did not coast in this game, he claims to have found scum with some certainty and then has no explanation for why he then basically did nothing about it.

so tell me what you think about smocaine since he's the person in the slot now

I dont like smocaine a lot either.
He seems survival focussed, willing to vote anywhere. I have bad feeling, that if I look, this will be his meta.

before i bother doing that do you want to tell me if looking at smocaine meta and playstyles is in your view, also a waste of time?

and then there is that...

[Transcend]

i have no completed games with smocaine

i have an ~idea~ at whose alt he might be

but i'm probably wrong

[Transcend]

that being said i think your metadiving is probably town motivated and you're probably not manufacturing this

but i don't think your conclusion is correct

which leads me to

MathBlade...

[Transcend]

also as someone who was in one of the game you metadived with gerry, i don't think it's a reliable game at all

gerry didn't give a fuck all game and that probably wasn't due to his alignment. we joined the game with a bunch of buds but most of them replaced out d1.

[Transcend]

and by most i mean two (mariar and cloudicker {aka joey_})

but i'd be right to say both of them were prob his closest friends in that game

[Transcend]

i think a better game to iso would be kidney mafia. he tried pretty hard in that game as town.

[Transcend]

how does gerry's iso in this game compare to this one: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=72889

[Nero Cain]

I felt like his reactions to me have been different and that the difference could be scum motivated.

[Transcend]

which reactions

[Nero Cain]

He death tunneled me in our last two games. He hasn't really been death tunneling me here. Why?

[Nero Cain]

Yeah, I'm a little worried about how fast it grew.

Agree, but scum also have day talk. I wouldn't put it past them to vote each other to make wagons look undesirable and what not. I was in a game not to long ago with Titus where she (and her team) wagoned her buddy to make said buddy inno. Would make alot of sense in this game, especially if Math is scum.