I know it. I dont want to help my case, specially because this argument can be reversed. In everyibody else's point of view, its my word against his. He can even reverse my argument, saying, for example:armlx wrote:BR: You saying "Mno is lying if he claims to have investigative results on me" is dumb. Not gonna help your case at all. Investigation result > you.
What I am assuring is that, if your suposed reason has anything to do with investigations (be it cop, watcher, tracker), you and I know it is fake. The town cant be sure of that. But it is in your best interest to give a reason not based on investigations. A reason why you think I killed DGB. You even said it had something to do with something I said. So say it. It wont reveal your role.mnowax wrote:i cannot by any means let go of my role information, but i can tell you that it wasn't because i am a cop and have a guilty on him. The only way i would get a guilty on you ( like almost everyone has said) is if you were in a cult. Even if i got a guilty on you, i couldn't be sure that you killed anyone. So there must be a reason why i know. And i Guarantee that if he comes up as town ( which i believe is a remote chance) i will absolutely explain everything the next day, and everyone can decide what to do with me.
I don't really get this. Mnowax was the target of a wagon yes, but how does that mean he is scum?One more thing, you saying "there must be a reason why i know" is completely dumb. Everyone can just look at the first wagon to form, and claim to have occult reasons to be sure he is guilty.
(Stating the obvious)I think you honestly believe I am scum.
And I think you are betting on it to try to land a fake "claim", meaning you arent in fact claiming, but, if turns out I am mafia, everybody will believe your reasons make you a town power role.
Even if it is true, its not like we are going to take his word over Mno's without a massively drastic reason.Yosarian2 wrote:Unless it's true...armlx wrote:BR: You saying "Mno is lying if he claims to have investigative results on me" is dumb.
Anyway, I think we need to here from Mnowax now.
Yes, A.armlx wrote:Actually, could I get some mod clarification on this? Does [SK/Cult leader kill immunity] mean
A) The first night kill attempt on them that game or
B) The first NK attempt each night.
I'm assuming A.
I discourage revealing critical information during twilight, although there's little I can do to prevent it. I will lock the thread once I notice that somebody's reached the relevant votes to lynch.Blazerunner wrote:mod, I posted this a while ago
Even with some unvotes, I would still like to know about twilight. I believe you might not have seen this question as I didnt bold it and was in the middle of a long post. Id jus like to know if there is twilight in your games, and how long. If you cant give me that info, just say it, tooBlazerunner wrote:Speaking about hammer,I have a question to mod: How long will twilight last, from the hammer to the death, when the person lynched cant speak anymore? (not exactly, just an estimation). I need to know this in case I get hammered, and for the reason above, and even regardless of people's alignment (the people not posting might all agree Im scum and vote me in quick succession)
In a normal game, I would agree with you. But in a game like this, I could see a random cult recruit intentionally sacrificing himself in order to cause one random mislynch; it might not be a bad trade for the cult in this game.armlx wrote: Even if it is true, its not like we are going to take his word over Mno's without a massively drastic reason.
I am speaking about myself. I was the target of a wagon, the first one. It is very easy for him to look at me and say "Hey, I have a reason that makes me almost 100% sure he killed DGB" and not specify it.malthusis wrote:I don't really get this. Mnowax was the target of a wagon yes, but how does that mean he is scum?One more thing, you saying "there must be a reason why i know" is completely dumb. Everyone can just look at the first wagon to form, and claim to have occult reasons to be sure he is guilty.
Not at all, he could be scum himself and believe me to be town, and do this to frame me. What I am saying is that I think he is gambling. He looked at me and actually thought I am scum. SO he makes a fake "claim" hoping I get lynched, and if I end up being guilty (and he thinks I will), no one will doubt his "claim". He wouldnt do this if he thought I was innocent, just to frame me, cause when my role was revealed, he would be in trouble.malthusis wrote:(Stating the obvious)I think you honestly believe I am scum.
And I think you are betting on it to try to land a fake "claim", meaning you arent in fact claiming, but, if turns out I am mafia, everybody will believe your reasons make you a town power role.
If the rules didn't insinuate multiple cults I would agree. However, a cult sacrificing one of its members for 2 "wasted" (read: not cult leader or SK) lynches automatically loses the race with the other cult especially since their best weapon against the other is what is getting wasted. The cult recruit's team isn't gaining the most value out of the play, the (presumed) other cult and (presumed) SK are gaining the most.Yosarian2 wrote:In a normal game, I would agree with you. But in a game like this, I could see a random cult recruit intentionally sacrificing himself in order to cause one random mislynch; it might not be a bad trade for the cult in this game.armlx wrote: Even if it is true, its not like we are going to take his word over Mno's without a massively drastic reason.
Agree.the silent speaker wrote: I ... am content to hear out mnowax before doing anything drastic.