The Hobbit Mafia - GAME OVER

Yaw · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:16 am

No, I don't think she lost her night ability at all. I think she's making this up.

Look back at Djinn's two posts.

indentureddjinn wrote:sorry I've been unimportant in this game. I've been really busy. I'll read and then I'll put in information for you.

indentureddjinn wrote:sorry still reading thred, get back to you tomorrow

First of all, no mention of a post restriction, which I would expect rather early on if he were limited to one post per day. Second, post 2 by him occurred after a push had already started to just end the day already. If he were interested in using the claimed ability, then why did he bother to post that second time at all? If he weren't interested in using the ability, why not hold off and actually post content? No, it's pretty clear from what Djinn said that if he were deliberately trying not to post, it wasn't for any role-related reason.

If anyone has a role like that, they have to come out with it as soon as it is reasonable (see Modargo in DP9). Otherwise, they're just a lurker, and everyone knows lurkers get lynched.

I also seriously doubt that a mod would be motivated to include a role in which it was advantageous

not

to post, unless it was to hurt a town that was too powerful. But with what is looking to be 5 scum groups (trolls, Smaug, goblins, spiders, Gollum), and a lot of plain townies (the dwarves), there would be no possible reason to weaken the town. In addition, having that kind of a severe drawback for such a small advantage as finding a mason partner doesn't ring true. (Nor does it make sense story-wise -- the thrush was a messenger that appeared to Bard once, not a partner.)

meaning of life 42 · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:47 am

Yeah..... i'm agreeing with Yaw on this one. how is the advantage of your role not to post? if you didn't post, you'd be considered lurker, and have to be replaced, or lynched for being lurker. so yeah...........

unvote:who ever i had vote: Lulu

CoolBot · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:03 pm

hmm, this claim is even worse than Argoti's, as Yaw has pointed out. I'd switch right now, but I'd like to see those voting lulu a chance to react, and we're pretty close to a lynch as it is.

PeaceBringer · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:07 pm

Not quite sure what to make of Lulu's claim.

However notice the tomorrow reference.

Would have to go back and see when his 2 posts occur.

Not sure how that helps at all-- weird role. So suspiscious.

Yaw · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:32 pm

Both of Djinn's posts were on day 1. The last post was about a day before the end of it, and the first post was two days before that. Easiest way is to use the buttons at the bottom of the thread to display all posts from him, then cross-reference the dates and times. (At least, that's what I do.)

PeaceBringer · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:22 pm

thanks Yaw-- wasn't aware of that search feature.

Given that both posts on first day I don't buy it. He would have lost night move.

Nice try lulu. Clearly you know the book to come up with the role and nice try at pulling a believeable role. Don't buy it.

unvote drummer FOS Drummmer Vote LULU

also don't see how your searching for bard helps the village

Yaw · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:43 pm

I count 10 of 11 votes on lulu. I'd prefer to have an official vote count confirm that, of course.

To be honest, searchable mason roles aren't that uncommon. The idea is that once you find the person you're looking for, you become a mason group (know each other are innocent, can communicate at night).

My

problems with the roleclaim are with the posting restriction being improbable, and that the old thrush and Bard don't seem to make sense together as a potential mason group. That shouldn't be interpreted to mean that masons or searchable masons are unhelpful to the town.

meaning of life 42 · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:53 pm

MOD, can we please get an official count, so we know who the final blow will be done by?

thanx

PeaceBringer · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:07 pm

I have seen the searchable mason concept used but only once.

Again it don't buy the role for reason Yaw laid out.

Having a mason with posting restriction seems way too odd with the # of bad guys in this game. However I could see mason used given the BGs but ID's behavior doesn't match Lulu's claim

Internet Stranger · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:18 pm

Whatever, lets kill her off. She can just replace another lurker if Yaw is wrong.

drummer97531 · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:51 pm

Vote: Lulu

I don't believe the mason role.

Silent Speaker: I didn't see a reason to leave a pointless vote on Jaylen. So I just took it off.

Corsato · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:13 pm

Vote Lulu

as well.

Jaylen · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:23 am

I'm happy with my vote on Lulu - let the chips fall where they will, and we can move on to another night

the silent speaker · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:51 am

I think that does it. Vote count?

mikehart · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:26 am

Vote Count
lulu muumuu

- (11)

Yaw, Yggdrasil, Peace Bringer, meaning of life 42, Corsato, FlyingDutchman, Internet Stranger, Jaylen, PeaceBringer, drummer97531, Corsato

coolbot

- (1)

the silent speaker

meaning of life 42

- (1)

Uraj45

ShivanDragon

- (1)

Tigris

Argoti

- (1)

CoolBot

That makes it a

LYNCH

it is now

Night 4

. Choices please

mikehart · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:34 am

As the town came to look at indentureddjinn, they suddenly noticed he was gone. The town trekked to his house and found his wife lulu muumuu. As the town begins to question her she claims, "He was just a thrush looking for a man named Bard!!!" "Bullshit!" screamed the town. "Kill her for her husbands crimes!" As the town strung her up she yelled, "Noooooooooo my presciousssssss itsssss losssssstssssss!!!"

lulu muumuu (indentureddjinn)

was Gollum.

mikehart · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:10 am

As meaning of life 42 was out last night he heard the quiet incantations of a spell. He tried to run but heard, "Ill kill you for being an idiot." Meaning of life 42 heard a loud bang and saw a flash of light. He saw no more. Meanwhile Corsato was wandering in Mirkwood when he heard a scratch behind him. He quicky turned and was met with a face full of silk. As he felt the fangs slip into his skin he knew it was the end.

meaning of life 42

was Bard

Corsato

was Ori

PeaceBringer · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:26 am

only 2 deaths a spider death and a wizard death

vote Internet Stranger

Jaylen · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:11 am

Yay

We are doing really well - best of all is the deaths of the two Serial Killers

As for the vote on IS, can you explain why, Peacebringer?

PeaceBringer · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:32 am

jaylen I have have stated before when I entered the game--

top canidate to be a spider--

folks had other interests at the time.

Recall Rick was pointing at IS--back on day one and killed by spider.

It isn't much but what I have to go on at the moment.

Internet Stranger · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:18 am

Tigris is a much better than I am at the moment actually.

Vote: Tigris

Yaw · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:28 am

Well, according to the front post, Bard was an "FBI Cop". I wonder what that means? (Yes, I know investigative role. I mean what the FBI part means.)

So, first on

my

list to deal with is Argoti. Either he's a roleblocker, or he's scum. He should have multiple choices in by now (I'd assume Murk at least put in a night 1 choice), so there should be some way to confirm whether he's lying or not. I'm just not sure who should come out first -- a role that knows they've been roleblocked, or Argoti with his choices...

I'm also reconsidering whether we have a good or a bad wizard around. The death of our Ritalinboi means that Gandalf can take out whoever he wants, regardless of their role. That leads to the question of what he was thinking going after Jeep night 1, if he were good. And if he were evil, why aren't there wizard kills in the intervening nights? It can't be a roleblock -- KingEnigma's dead and if Murk/Argoti were a roleblocker there'd be missing choices from him the nights we didn't see wizard kills. This one has me perplexed.

I'll reread, probably tomorrow, and come up with something. In the meantime, Argoti's roleclaim makes him my best bet. Just not enough to be worth voting for him when there's a chance he can clear himself early in the day.

Internet Stranger · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:50 am

Uh.. wha? I need a recap. What did Argoti claim again? Roleblocker?

Unvote: Tigris
Vote: Argoti

Spit them night choices out now please. One of your targets will make a better lead. Unless youre a liar, then we just finish you off.

PeaceBringer · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:39 am

actually since MOL42 was cop and since voted Argoti--

vote Argoti

but IS you are not off the hook yet.

Yggdrasil · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:49 am

post #448

Argoti wrote:I have yet to block anyone since ID has been gone all
game long.

This to me seems to most suspicious statement in the game so far, especially when our Mod wrote in post #38:

Mikehart wrote:I am still missing as few night choices so i am extending the deadline 24 hours. if you choose not to use your night action please tell me that.

So, I'd assume that Murk would have at least made a night 1 choice. So,

vote: Argoti

.

Here's another suspicions to think about. MMCL looks like a possible Goblin to me. Day 1 he seemed pretty reluctant to join the bandwaggon against Jediknight (who turned out to be a goblin). First he merely FOSes Jedi when people are beginning to vote for Jedi, which makes it seem like he's with the town's bandwaggon, but does not actually advance the bandwaggon. His play throughout the rest of the game has also seemed a little conservative, especially post #217 in which he joins IS in voting for Korias, but also FOSes IS to cover all of his bases. Other than joining in the bandwaggons against Jedi and Korias, he has only really attacked MOL and IS. IS is always a good target for scum to attack, and his attacks on MOL seem more for metagame reasons than anything else.