Open 53: Near-Vanilla - Game over!

[skitzer]

Ooh, your right something is wrong with that.

Nullify the FoS. I still don't understand why you voted for Crub.

[Korlash]

Cause Crub is Curb spelled wrong... And Curbs are located in towns, but you never notice them, also when you walk and aren't looking Curbs make you trip! Thus Crubs are like real life scum! So Crub is like a misspelled scum, or musc for short!

^^

[Korlash]

That joke would have been so much better if I had spellcheck...

seriously though... I don't like Crub's tunnel vision.. And thats about it really...

[skitzer]

Oh ok.

[Shanba]

@Crub:

First, please not the interaction you dislike. Then, consider Jdodge as a possible third scum partner - if I were looking for me/x links I think that's one I would pursue. I think there might be a few others, too. Then drop the whole ridiculous notion and think again.

There are times when everyone disagrees with you, but you are right anyway. That's where MoS' title comes from, for example. But there are also times, and these are much more common, when everyone disagrees with you

because you are wrong

. Please consider whether this might be the latter.

Oh, and while you're at it, I'd like you to explain fully, in detail, about why kleb's reaction feels off.

[Hjallti]

Fixed deadline:
This day will end not later than apr 4th, CET 10.00 am.

Official Vote Count

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch before deadline.

klebian

: 1 (Crub)

JDodge

: 2 (killa seven, TheSweatpantsNinja)

killa seven

: 1 (RossWilliam)

Crub

: 2 (Korlash, klebian)

Not voting

: 5 (skitzer, JDodge, neko2086, Shanba, Justin Playfair)

[neko2086]

So, Korlash, at the start of the day, you were debating between klebian and k7, and ended up voting Crub because of tunnel vision? If you believe Crub is scum, what do you think of Klebian now?

Skitzer, you are OK with this? Also, I'm a little surprised you backed down on your FOS due to a syntactical error pointed out by Korlash. You didn't even rephrase it to try to get your concern addressed.

Mod, prod JDodge

please. It's been a week. I don't think I'm the only one that would like to hear from him. If he doesn't have the time for this game, he may need to be replaced.

[Korlash]

That Kleb Vs. K7 thing was meant entirely to get Crub to talk. It didnt work... so I voted... didnt work either... Darn you Crub! Darn you....

[neko2086]

If none of those were serious suspicions, whom do you suspect now?

[Korlash]

Well that Korlash guy is a bit suspicious... How can someone be so smart and handsome and awesome all at once?... It's a mystery...

[Hjallti]

JDodge has been prodded

[Justin Playfair]

Sorry.

I'm not sure I see the big point on Crub. He may have been analysing something that needed this retrospect. If he's trying to help the game, let it be.

Skitzer,

About the above. Do you have any reason to believe that Crub is analyzing something that needed to be kept confidential? Do you have any notion of what it might be?

You say “if” he’s trying to help the game, which seems odd to me on a couple of levels, one of which may just be a matter of poor word choice, but the other being just confounding.

Do you have any reason, based on Crub’s activities to this point, that he is trying to help town? If so, please enumerate them.

Could you explain why you chose the phrase “help the game” as opposed to “help the town” or perhaps “hunt scum”? This seems likely to be nothing more than a poor word choice, but please confirm this, or if I’m incorrect, please explain why you phrased this in this manner.

[Crub]

Justin, please explain to me how my actions make me more like to be scum?

[Crub]

Also, I've explained, go back and read the forking thread for yourselves. If you don't find kleb scummy well that's your opinion. My opinion is that, he's probably scum. If you disagree, fair enough, if you think that makes me scum, please explain.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'd just like to know what it is that I will either agree or disagree with.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

EBWOP: Because right now, I disagree. But I'm prepared to be convinced otherwise.

[Hjallti]

I started to search replacement for JDodge!

[Shanba]

Crub - your suspicions of kleb are spread thinly (like, super thin. We're talking anorexic here) and in any case are badly explained (there's scum on the RW wagon? Why is klebian that scum?) If you tried to be clear, I'm sorry, but you've failed.

[skitzer]

Justin: I don't really have an opinion on Crub right now. But if he's trying to help the town, which yes, was wrongly worded, then it would be ok. I think it would help if Crub could explain his true intentions.

I think I was in a hurry when I wrote that post. Sorry.

[klebian]

Hi. Will be giving some thoughts later today and I hope to stay a little more involved in this game

[Korlash]

Anyone remember the time when you could identify who a player was by his/her avitar? Jsut a quick perifrial vision check and you knew it was player so and such... man... I miss those times... ;_;

[klebian]

i guess we're kinda waiting on jdodge to answer those questions when he 'has more time'?
i still think crub's 'explanations' are pretty weak- he picked me semi-randomly and has not liked reactions.... also his saying i over-reacted to one vote is pretty baseless until he points out where I did this... I wouldn't agree that I over-reacted, and that still wouldn't show proof of his claim yesterday that I was obv scum since this occurred after he made the claim

[Crub]

If you disagree, fair enough, if you think that makes me scum, please explain.

[JDodge]

Sorry, I've been busy as hell and a bit unmotivated from this game due to the mod's unfair enforcement of his activity policy (AKA only ever prodding me, not people such as Killah Seven and RossWilliam who have been lurking like hell). I'll get to answering now.

[JDodge]

How has my play been anti-town?

I don't see how it has been pro-town, really. You've yet to really contribute to this game. If your playstyle is deliberate, what do you feel you have accomplished?

Nothing. I generally take a short while to get a feel of the game before I start serious contribution - this is another case of me just simply being bored.

Also, do you have any thoughts concerning the events of D1? Since you really didn't say much D1, I would hope you would have had the chance to make some observations that could potentially help us today. I would also like to know what drove you to your final vote.

I don't have many thoughts on D1. Nothing really happened that caught my eye on day one except a couple things that felt off about RossWilliam - nothing actually factual to base it on, though. I will contribute more on D2. And I will admit that my final vote of D1 was about two-thirds influenced by saving myself.

Generally, I do. I understand that some people act like assholes to try to draw scummy reactions, but unfortunately, it can draw the same reactions from town, so it really doesn't end up being that helpful. In my mind, the town should always be as helpful as possible. Not doing so risks misleading the town, and that should never be allowable to a townie.

In your experience (although it is limited), what alignment do these "assholes" tend to be? What is your personal definition of "anti-town"? Doesn't the existance of neutral roles in some games tend to prove the potential existance of a null-tell?

Now, if there is signifigant evidence pointing to somebody being town, such as an investigation or something like that, they absolutely should not be lynch because of "policy" or anything like that. But, at this point of the game, I don't feel like we have any reason to believe that you are town.

Isn't it "guilty until proven innocent", not the other way around? Aside from my lurking (boredom) and lack of content when I did post (more boredom), what exactly have I done that is anti-town?