That is true and could very well be true for phate as well.Shteven wrote:It's certainly odd, yet it's true that there are many mistakes that can be made in mafia that don't truly yield any role information.
I agree with your sentiments about it being true for Phate. However, being a tad presumptious about Spacecase, aren't we?dahill1 wrote: That is true and could very well be true for phate as well.
but for right now i want to focus the attention on spacecase, so we can see what happens after he's lynched (if he is)
(You do add an important disclaimer, given that barely half the needed votes are on him. But notice the difference in effects by putting important things in parentheses. My post goes from an out and out accusation on you to understanding I am taking you out of context. I'll get to this in a second). 
Nothing suspicious is going to turn up if we just keep talking about Spacecase.dahill1 wrote:i wasn't using it as a second argument, i'm just saying it's possible that SC could not be lynched if something suspicious turns up.
Early on Day 3 you FoS'ed Spacecase, claiming that you were also going to reread and 'figure things out.' As your attention hasn't been anywhere else (other than SC), is it safe to assume that your 'figuring things out' was a bust?farside22 wrote:Right now reading today I like what MadCrawdad found on space case and his reasoning seems weak.
FOS: Space case
I need to do a reread of yesterday to figure things out, but that is good to have for now
Phate wrote:I don't think randomly lynching among people the cop talked about is a good idea, Oman.
Phate wrote:This is probably a bit hypocritical on my part, given my lack of posting, but I'm not a fan of lurker lynches, and SpaceCase's wagon is growing really fast. I don't like it.
Phate wrote:Cipher, why do you think I'm scummy?
dahill, why are you fishing?
Phate, these are all of your posts from Day 3. Most of them pretty much appear to be defensive in nature, with you occasionally popping in when someone mentions your name. None of them appear to be at all helpful in hunting down scum.Phate wrote:dahill, why is my not paying attention to cop claims a scumtell? Unless you prove that scum are less likely than town to pay attention to roleclaims (good luck with that), you can take that out of your argument.
We're building up a picture of space's mind...slowlySpacecase wrote: Alright maybe I try to explain better why I voted to kill Kab. When the first post happened I thought that the wagon was a scum driven wagon. I didn't think that he was scum at all. But, what Kab said 15 posts later changed my opinion. You can't tell me that you have never changed your opinion 10 to 20 posts later.
I hope that this gives you a better understanding of my thought process.
farside22 wrote:I just went over spacecase comments more. Here were some things that really stood out.
Spacecase: Post 61 hinting at interrogating veteran players. Post 65 agrees that CKD was deliberate to be taken out night 0. Post 63 says Wesaq confused him. Post 68 votes against Wesaq. Why wait to vote against a person you feel confused about 5 post later? Post 174 expresses doubt in claimed cop Jesse. Other things noted:
Im going to have to agree, lynching Kab would solve nothing and hurt us in the long run. But thats my personal opinion.vollkan wrote:
Kab has been the best firm lead I have been able to find thus far. I do think he is the scummiest thus far, and that he is a decent lynch.
Is this inferring that we should lynch him and get it over with?Confirm vote: Spacecase was posting carefully day 1, but not enough to get ignored. When Justin asked him some questions he only really answered one of the accusations.Kab, watch you said is scummy to me becasue you are trying to be "honorable", I guess you could say and just offering yourself up which I'm thinking is a last ditch effort to sway the vote away from you. vote Kabenon007
LaptopGun has been 'cleared' by the likely cop, which means there are two fewer suspects...Perfectiondoesnotexist wrote:I think Cipher is almost certainly our cop because he has not been counterclaimed. The mafia will probably roleblock him, but if we doctor protect him and he can't get results, the mafia will probably pick us off. At least I have one less suspect.
. What a great use of time... Oh boy. Moreover my original boogey man theory still looks possible (so maybe the same mafia forces are at work), but my prime suspect Justin turned out to be cop. So it isn't possible. 
I would think that kind of tell is usually brought up by yourself. How would someone else bring it up for you? I can't think of any way that wouldn't reflect more poorly on the initial asker than the second person.Cipher wrote:The other thing on Phate was his thing about being surprised Jesse was still alive. I looked up that congratulating the doctor thing that he mentioned in the same post and apparently it is a real scumtell - does this apply any less because he brought it up himself?
farside22 wrote:@MCD: I know I'm not around as much, but I did state the following that still hasn't been answered or commented on. <snip>
farside22 wrote:It was also his lack of reasoning when he voted. Lurkers can sometimes be scum (most times). Depends on the person and if they know how to bluff well in these games.Shteven wrote:P.S. Didn't like the case on melody man day 2, still don't. Seems to basically be "he's lurking". Probably right on that, doesn't sell me as him being scum though.
sorry, botched the quote tag in the previous post... it should read as shown above.MadCrawdad wrote:dahill1 wrote:That is true and could very well be true for phate as well.
but for right now i want to focus the attention on spacecase, so we can see what happens after he's lynched (if he is)@dahill
This comment is interesting, to say the least...
Wouldn't you agree that it's more pro-town to focus attention where necessary (to try to maximize the chances of lynching scum), versus focusing all attention on one individual in hopes that more information will come to light after the lynch?
you're right we should focus attention where necessary, but i think right now that spacecase probably will be scum, and my only other suspicion is phate. we should lynch either phate or spacecase, and then depending on their role, look back on connections, etc.MadCrawdad wrote:MadCrawdad wrote:dahill1 wrote:That is true and could very well be true for phate as well.
but for right now i want to focus the attention on spacecase, so we can see what happens after he's lynched (if he is)@dahill
This comment is interesting, to say the least...
Wouldn't you agree that it's more pro-town to focus attention where necessary (to try to maximize the chances of lynching scum), versus focusing all attention on one individual in hopes that more information will come to light after the lynch?