Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:41 pm

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Day 1, Votecount 55


5 Kagami (Firebringer, Mulch, Ginngie, Chara, Kmd4390)
1 Cabd (Toranaga)
1 Chara (implosion)
1 Mulch (Kagami)
1 Spiffeh (Patrick)

6 Unvote (Aristophanes, Cabd, Cheetory6, Eddie Cane, Spiffeh, UnaBombaH)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-05 00:00:00), on Sunday, February 4 at 11:59 pm EST.


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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:41 pm

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In post 1923, Spiffeh wrote:scum lean for the majority of the game, she had like one post that I only read on my reread which seemed townish but idk

I feel there are still other options to explore before deciding on a lynch

Side note I never really understand the purpose of asking people about their read progressions because it's either in the thread already or not relevant enough for me to remember
Feels like you've had a lot of interactions with her this game, but haven't taken any kind of strong outright stance on her in general. There's posts that I can infer a scumread, but it seemed pretty hedged.

Also definitely feel like there's more detail that you can be putting into this.
Are you doing something more productive right now?
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:52 pm

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Cheet, i'd note that Kagami also pointed me back to a very early list of reasons to scumread mulch... I'm not sure if there's a more modern set than those from page 30ish or so.
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:53 pm

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I haven't taken a stance on her because I don't really have one

I guess I'd say scum if there was a gun to my head but I'd prefer to get more conversation surrounding my other scum leans before bothering to commit one way or the other

I still have like 10 pages left of my reread that I'll finish up tomorrow and give a reads list
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:00 pm

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In post 1927, Cabd wrote:Cheet, i'd note that Kagami also pointed me back to a very early list of reasons to scumread mulch... I'm not sure if there's a more modern set than those from page 30ish or so.
I can attest that there is a more modern list as I've just finished ISOdiving Kagami as I promised I would because I'm that awesome.
I don't want to talk about how not-fun it was trying to parse the KMD/Kagami interactions.

Are you excited to be asked whether your claim was real by 4+ people now?
Spiff wrote:I still have like 10 pages left of my reread that I'll finish up tomorrow and give a reads list
Maybe if it's a good reads list you can join me and eddie in the fun sorting the game party that we're planning on having tomorrow!
This part of this post was less fun before I looked at it and decided that I need to be more fun because apparently I'm a shithead when I play mafia and try to win nowadays!
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:01 pm

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In post 1929, Cheetory6 wrote:Are you excited to be asked whether your claim was real by 4+ people now?
About as excited as I was to get laid off.

It'll be self-evident tomorrow.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:03 pm

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I hope you are more excited to answer the question "Who is scum?"

Because that's the one that actually matters!
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:05 pm

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Will probably depend on answers to questions and more ISOdives, but I have some ideas atm that I'm going to keep close to my chest because wow I'm just so mysterious aren't I.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:08 pm

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I was talking to Cabd awkward

I just got second hand embarrassment for you
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:09 pm

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You’re like one of those people who thinks I’m waving to them when I’m actually waving to the person behind them
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:09 pm

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I assume that all unaddressed posts are directed to me because I'm the most important user on the site.
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:13 pm

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Actually that’s me cheet lmao
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:14 pm

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Spiff can you do me a favour and start all of your posts from now on with "Dear #1"?
It would really help me with parsing the game and understanding when your posts are being directed at me.

P-Edit: I'm sorry who are you?
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:15 pm

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That hurts
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:47 pm

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scheet if uf read
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:53 pm

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who we lynchin
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:13 pm

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It's 2 AM so I still need to read everything since my last post and I'll do that tomorrow but saw this: Cheet, I acknowledged the friendly neighbor thing in Post 1300. It's a decent point that made me think a little but I'd definitely think the first instinct wouldn't be "oh he's softing friendly neighbor. That's town." I'd expect more "Ok, prove it". Even without bringing meta into it I'd expect that. But from someone with the history that Kagami has with that role? Yeah, I'd especially expect it.

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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:20 pm

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In post 1930, Cabd wrote:
In post 1929, Cheetory6 wrote:Are you excited to be asked whether your claim was real by 4+ people now?
About as excited as I was to get laid off.

It'll be self-evident tomorrow.
I really don’t want to be s dick here so pls don’t take it as such...

Maybe you should replace out and try sorting some real life stuff.
This def doesn’t need to be a focus at all for you
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:29 am

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In post 1698, implosion wrote:
In post 1683, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 1664, Mulch wrote:That's incorrect I'm scumreading 2/4 people that vote me
I mean you scum read Transcend (Eddie's predecessor) HARD until he broke the rules by proving he was being genuine so not much you can do about that one

And implosion is just obviously town
And this is also quite quite sketchy. I liked spiffeh's disengagement with Ginngie iirc. But this attack against mulch is at the very least bad, if not scummy. You don't get to phrase the attack like this:
Mulch why is everyone that votes for you/calls you scum automatically scum?
when there are exceptions, even if you think those exceptions are "obvious"... especially if, when taking those exceptions out, it only applies to two people??

Like I sort of have a difficult time believing Spiff is being genuine with this slight. But it's not the kind of thing that he has a whole ton of motivation to post as scum, either?
It applied to three out of the four people that have pushed him this game, at the exact times in which they were pushing them.

Like even now that I've stopped voting for him he's town reading me. Early on he treated Transcend similarly. I'm now realizing that these are probably just Mulch's reactions to votes in general and not really scum-motivated, but there is an apparent pattern even if there's one exception.
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:32 am

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In post 1716, Cheetory6 wrote:Tora is really stubborn as town. There was something that he was unwilling to budge on that reminded me a lot of his play in Alisae's latest mish mash game.
I think there's a pretty distinct difference between being stubborn about the town read and literally only talking about the town read in the most buddy-ish manner without doing much scum hunting beyond that
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:54 am

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In post 1787, Eddie Cane wrote:I guess I'll take Spiffeh and Tora out because the former is starting to be productive and the latter Transcend said is never scum here.
What was Transcend's reasoning for saying Tora would never be scum here.

If it's because of his team make-up, can you tell me who on that team would be more likely to pick a scum role PM?
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:10 am

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In post 1836, Kagami wrote:Hey Spiffeh, how about, in your next post, you rank every player from each team from most likely to pick a scum PM to least.
I only really know for a lot of these teams so this is my best guess for the teams I do know
DEFCON: Lady Lambdadelta > everyone else > hebichan

Team Cuddly: Postie/RC > everyone else

Relaxed Nature: Fro99er > Aeronaut > Gamma Emerald ? > Something_Smart/Aristophanes

Make Papa Proud: everyone > implosion

Queue Agents: everyone else > Ginngie > Bulbazak

Dandy Irate Hoes: hiplop > Reck/TSQ > Cheetory6 > Radja ?
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:22 am

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In post 1912, Patrick wrote:I haven't made many posts because I have to sleep, eat and work
Uh you need to get your priorities straight mafia is obviously way more important than all three of these things
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:44 am

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I don't get it, spiff. I think that list is spot on and could prob be expanded if you consulted espeonage.

So why is it strange that I expected more than implosion and cheet? Ginn, aristo, and FB are unlikely to be scum by that list as well.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:47 am

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Since the conversation we had my team has had this exact discussion which has helped me draw some of these conclusions

But even so I was/am not confident enough in these compositions to just write off Firebringer and Ginn as town.

I've come to that conclusion based on play which is a better metric to measure by imo

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