Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Ether]

Day 5, Votecount 1

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All that she wants is another dayvig
She's got to spare ya, boy
All that she wants is another dayvig, ehh

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All That She Wants,

Ace of Base

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8 Unvote (Cheetory6, Firebringer, Ginngie, implosion, Kmd4390, Patrick, Spiffeh, UnaBombaH)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-03-07 19:00:00), on Wednesday, March 7 at 7:00 pm EST.

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[implosion]

I think spiff/firebringer has the last scum, with very high probability. I'm going to look in more depth at spiff today.

What's stupid about it?

aristophanes doing literally nothing but still being really obvious town for the sole reason of he wouldn't pick scum and getting lynched anyway because everyone else was also obvious town

ginngie fakeclaiming a guilty

the two scum that we've caught so far basically just handing themselves to us?

the likely multiple lies at massclaim making the game fucking impossible to wrap my head around in completeness

like i don't feel like i've gotten to play a game of mafia here. It's like a facsimile thereof. I can probably keep going.

[Ginngie]

Actually LyLo is 5 people dying so

Implosion
Una
Ginngie
Patrick
Cheet Spiff and Fire LyLo

[Spiffeh]

Yeah I really think implosion is the final scum

[implosion]

we get THREE more lynches. If I'm one of them then I want DAMN good reasons for spiffeh and fire to not be the other two.

[Ginngie]

~I have a guilty on Implosion~

[implosion]

haha funny joke it was definitely funny when you did that thing that ruined the gmae for 10 people then fucking ignored everyone else and scoffed at them for lambasting you about it hahahahah funny

[Ginngie]

~hahahaha~

[implosion]

spiffeh has done absolutely jack shit in the past three game days. He's been coasting on his laurels of "my play toward mulch was obvious town," and has refused to engage with a single point against him seriously.

He's made zero effort to find the last scum.

He's made zero effort in general.

[Ginngie]

He made me read KMD town lol so argument invalid

[Firebringer]

I am signeifksndjdidj right now

Was sure it was aristophanes

[Firebringer]

I don’t think it’s implosion rn

[implosion]

Basically.

Keely. I don't think I'm going to be able to convince you that I'm town today but I really need to dialogue with you about who gets lynched after me, if I am lynched today. You and patrick and Kmd are basically the only people in this game that I feel like I can have a productive dialogue with right now. Maybe una but.

[Firebringer]

You can talk to me

[implosion]

ugh.

I am going to close my laptop for the next hour because i literally will not be able to do any work if i leave it open.

When i get home i'll probably be on for large swathes of the evening. Happy to talk w/ anyone then.

[Spiffeh]

I'm probably gonna try to justify my town reads to people this game Day

I know I promised to do things last Day and ended up not so I won't PROMISE but I really will try

[Cheetory6]

Honestly Ginngie, after yesterday and D3 you can stop with the quicklynch hysteria okay?
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I'm hoping we can collectively sort eight slots.
That's really not that much at the end of the day with two flipped scum.

People should try to put together cases for why people are town or scum and I'm going to compile reasoning into some kind of a nice Town vs Scum format for each player which encapsulates the collective reasoning people have in a way that's nice to digest.

I'm probably going to contribute to this a lot and I'm probably going to contribute a lot more if other people are also trying in this game.

I think with that information compiled and with people committing to informed stances we should have a much better shot at this.
Yes, I realize 7:1 is a great ratio.
I've seen dumber scumwins.

[Ginngie]

can’t stop won’t stop?

[Spiffeh]

Cheet did you ever comment on my KMD town case? If not what do you think?

[Cheetory6]

can’t stop won’t stop?

I stopped calling you awful.
Please do me this courtesy.

Cheet did you ever comment on my KMD town case? If not what do you think?

I remember reading it, but I'm pretty sure I had already been townreading KMD at the time so it basically rolled off me at the time because I didn't care?

[Spiffeh]

I thought you had an issue with KMD because of the things MathDino was saying?

[Cheetory6]

And then Mathdino clarified on the next page, I don't understand what that has to do with my initial take on reading it?
If you want me to go back and read it, probably not happening tonight, dinner and then either dateThings/workThings.

[Firebringer]

I am going to go on a limb here and say that unabomeh is scum.
Unabomeh has been basically softing power role all game and I think reason was scum were informed there was a doctor in game. So scum plan was to drag out real doctor with backup and backup was too look townie, though honestly bot sure why unabomeh would continue the backup doctor claim because he is really suspicious in a 3:1 scenario.

Idk this is what I think happened.

[Firebringer]

Actually I think unabomeh should get pass.

[Cheetory6]

Nvm apparently I want to not accomplish anything IRL tonight.

Not only does KMD seem to not even be aware that Cabd was claiming friendly neighbor, he scolds Kagami on believing it in the first place.
If KMD were scum with Cabd, I would expect
1. Cabd to brief his scum buddies on his planned fake claim so KMD should probably know about it
2. KMD to not shit all over a friendly neighbor claim if he knows his scum buddy is trying to save himself with one

I frankly have no idea what the dynamic would be in the scumPT given Mulch/Cabd being a thing. Given Cabd's engagement with this game and his relationship with Mulch I don't really know if I believe that he necessarily plans anything at all and even so, that he shares it with anyone?

I think townKMD pushing Kagami for meta is a clear more likely reality over scumKMD jumping on someone while pretending that the friendly neighbor fakeclaim isn't there.

I think there's a more feasible outcome for scumKMD to have just not known either by not checking PT or the PT not being used in general.

Also this gives me pause

I only have one reason for reading him because the way he plays makes it hard to take him seriously. He has like 300 posts. Probably two are readable. So good luck finding them. As I've said before, if you want to policy Lynch him I'm not against it especially because it's what my team wants anyway. It just feels weird to do it when I think he's town. I will say I'd rather Lynch mulch than cabd.

because Mulch clearly had the better role and if given the choice scum!KMD would probably prefer to keep the roleblock over what was basically a goon. Especially since KMD had done so much work defending Mulch throughout the game, he wouldn't have had to make up a reason to justify wanting Cabd lynched over Mulch.

I don't understand why you're valuing his words over his actions in this regard? Because it doesn't really stack up with how he eventually does vote.

I remember there being better reasoning for him being town.