Newbie 05 - Game Over

[Fishbulb]

What are you talking about Morpheus? Look at my whole post in response to Mighty Raven. I was speaking out

against

lynching him. But then I saw the inconsistency, and just asked him about it. I am not voting for him, and I don't plan to. But it would be a good idea for Vraak to get those who are still on him looking in another direction. I have ideas, but with Vraak in the spotlight, it would be more beneficial to the town for him to give some input. I still do not trust Vraak, so I'm not gonna run to his defense just yet, but I don't want him lynched right now either.

[Flying Dutchman]

I still do not trust Vraak,

Well, I do, and it's the best I have, so:

Vote: Fishbulb

[EnPaceRequiescat]

I'm with fishbulb on getting vraak_x to speak more. In vraak_x's last post, he just said he had a reason, but didn't say what the reason was. Since he already roleclaimed, what other harm will it do for him to solidify his claim?

[Sugar]

Vote Count

Vraak X - 1

(Mighty Raven)

Mr_Gnome - 1

(EnPace)

Fishbulb - 1

(Flying Dutchman)

Not voting: Fishbulb, Mr_Gnome, Vraak X, Morpheus

4 to lynch

[Fishbulb]

I still do not trust Vraak,

Well, I do, and it's the best I have, so:

Vote: Fishbulb

Well, just because we don't agree doesn't mean you should vote for me. Besides, there is no reason for us to trust him. Just because another cop didn't come doesn't mean a whole lot. Like I said previously, it would be wise for them to keep their mouth shut instead of falling in a trap. Granted he

could

indeed be the real cop, hence why I am not wanting to hang him. Instead, I am asking him to help us out by pointing elsewhere. It will reveal more about him, and might give us a good candidate.

We've learned a lot already. Some just want to lynch, some don't want to say anything, and some use zero reasoning. This is all usefull stuff, and to give up today because the "best [you] have" is a disagreement in trust is really a waste.

[Flying Dutchman]

He has had no chance to investigate yet, he doesn't know ANYTHING more then you do, how can you expect he gives you a direction!?

You act scummy.......

[Vraak X]

Wow! Everyone has confirmed, and under 24 hours!

One received

: You are the town cop. You are looking for mafia members, so you can choose a player to investigate each game night. Please PM me your target before the night deadline.
You win when all of the Mafia are eliminated.

First thread says this..

So that means..

There can only be one cop..

No one has contested or claimed the role of cop yet, so I guess I must be it, huh. Obviously, there's only one cop, and since this

IS

newbie mafia, I guess there's no dinky far-fetched roles, either.

[Fishbulb]

Vraak X? Why do you keep saying that. We all know the rules here. I just don't get it.

The real cop should not come out just because someone else says they are on the first day. If a mafia is going to be lynched, they will of course claim that hoping the cop will do just that. Hence the reason I am not completely trusting of Vraak X. However, I think it would be in our best interest to keep him alive, since he

could

be the cop and if he's not, it will be obvious fast.

Are you following this time people. You need to read the whole posts to get it. Here's the big finish.

So, since we have no where else to turn, and Vraak still has a few people wanting to vote for him, it would be in his best interest to give us a new direction. No, he doesn't have any information that we haven't got, but since he's in the spotlight, it would make sense for him to give us a nudge towards someone he finds suspicious. He certainly doesn't have to. But something's gotta happen or the town will just get bored (or get deadlined) and lynch him to move on.

[Vraak X]

I say Mighty Raven.

Why?

No post since 26 December, if I recall.

Also, I'll be out for a few days.

[Mighty Raven]

Well, nothing changed for me, so there isn't much to change for me. You still act very dodgy!

[Mighty Raven]

That sounded a bit silly. Anyway, I think you got the message.

[Flying Dutchman]

Vraak wouldn't claim cop if he wasn't.

Check the other mafia games, mafia claims townie if they are threatened, as there are more of those, and no-one can say: "Hey, i'm the townie, so you can't be!"

Think what will happen if Vraak is NOT the real cop:
1. Real cop comes out.
2. Vraak is linched.
3. Real cop gets doc protection tonight.

There is just 1 mafia member left, who can easy be investigated tonight, the cop has claimed but has probably doc protection.......

Nope, mafiosi will claim townie........

[Fishbulb]

And that is precisely what he did, Flying Dutchman. Then, when all hope was lost he came out as cop. So, you made my point for me. He did claim townie and then switched to cop at the last second. If he knew he was doomed, it would be a good way to at least get a cop outed. However, he has already explained this enough to keep me happy for now.

I'm ready to move on.

[EnPaceRequiescat]

Looks like there's not much left to gain by going after vraak_X. since he has pointed at raven as a potential target due to the inactivity, I'd like to also mention that MR_gnome_it_all hasn't really been active, nor have his posts been useful, suggesting an action that we weren't able to do, then FOSing dutchman and vraak_x, then posting a post with two different looks/opinions on Vraak_x's roleclaim.

Maybe he has just forgotten a out this game again...

What do you guys think?

[Fishbulb]

He even posted just a few hours ago. He's either not interested in this game, or lurking scum. Either way, he needs to speak up.

Vote: Mr_Gnome_It_All

[Morpheus]

This is what I have to say........ Vraak X is innocent until someone else claims cop. I think if Vraak is lying then the

real

cop should come forth and tell us because if the other mafia goes after him the doc could protect him. So if no one comes out and says I'm the cop the I find Vraak X innocent.

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

He even posted just a few hours ago. He's either not interested in this game, or lurking scum. Either way, he needs to speak up.

Vote: Mr_Gnome_It_All

Actually, I just have nothing to say! It's a little difficult to say or do anything useful when you have a role that does nothing but sit there 24/7! And since I'm used to boards with very strict rules regarding spam, if I have nothing to say, I just don't speak!

[Guest]

However, you can voice your current view of the situation (for example, I support/disagree/etc.) I had the same problem, and I think I might still have it. However, looking back at your other posts, they did not really say anything (like your first post, that said, let's just vote for passports, which is not an option). dunno... it's sorta suspicious.

[Cadmium]

Here ya go, FD !

[Fishbulb]

since I'm used to boards with very strict rules regarding spam, if I have nothing to say, I just don't speak!

Well, get over that now, because you will be lynched. If all of us took your approach the game would get nowhere. If you're not getting involved with the game, you are either lurking scum, or just no help to the town (and the fun of the game for that matter). Vote stays.

(And don't forget to log in folks. That's the second time we've lost the thread. Hopefully it will be fixed on the new boards, but for now, make sure you log in before posting.)

[EnPaceRequiescat]

boy do I suck at this. the dangers of playing from another computer.

I was telling gnome that I used to have the same problem, and still do if you see a few games. but Rite's don't be stupid mafia got me over that. All hail Rite (I think I should pm him to make another don't be stupid mafia game).

[Vraak X]

I'm back from my scheduled vacation!

[Flying Dutchman]

Well, there is not much happening here......

Well, my vote stays, as I still have nothing else to go on!

[Vraak X]

I think Fishbulb is rather innocent. Mighty Raven, on the other hand, seems quite persistent to have me lynched.

Vote: Mighty Raven

[Mighty Raven]

That is some solid reasoning. Vote on the one who votes for you. I am still not convinced about your innocence, but since you probably won't be lynched this round anyway, I will try and find your colleague instead.

Unvote Vraak X

. But still

FOS: Vraak X