Mini 1046 - Murder in the Desert (Game Over!)
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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xvart Mafia Scum
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xvart Mafia Scum
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How nice of you to unvote me when I apply pressure to you, and even nicer that you offer to lynch Socrates whom you've been suspicious of most all game (for reasons I can't seem to find) but recently said was a neutral read.Slaxx, 602 wrote:You were my only scum read in my ISO, so the I started making connections with you to other players. I clearly stated that if I had to give two remaining FoSs it would be you and Oso, for individual reasons and actual connected reasons.
Slaxx, 268 wrote:Oso is third scum in case I die tonight. Not that I am an optimal kill anyway. I will wait for bubs claim.Slaxx, 328 wrote:I think 2 out of Xine, Boberz, and Oso/Socrates are last scum, but I have to be honest, I am least suspicious of boberz. I will probably read more thoroughly this weekend.
Note that the last quote is the first time Slaxx has actually presented reasons for suspecting Oso/Socrates, and this is when he shifts back to neutral. So I'll ask the question more clearly: why was Oso/Socrates scum prior to this post? Now Socrates is possible scum due to connections with me but not the previous reasons you never provided before? I can't seem to find anywhere where you post anything resembling a case or level of suspicion of Oso/Socrates up until your ISO of him this game day.Slaxx, 526 wrote:
xvart.I only read quote walls.
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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Oso was scum d1 because he was scummy. His reads were scummy and he was deflective. He posted little to no content, and when he did it didnt seem genuine. I expressed concern by telling Parama to Iso OSo and see what he thought.
Notice D2 when Soc replaced in I didn't say much about it.
Now notice when I start looking for connections after that post you just quoted I find some odd connections with you and Bub and Oso so I FoS you two. Pretty clear to me. Idk what your problem is bro.
The only reason I unvoted you is I am trying to figure out why mafia would try so hard at this point in time. Not try hard, its not the right phrase, oh well. It kind of balanced the odds for me. 50/50 either way. You or Soc. Also, I recall you unvoting me after I put you under pressure. So what we've got here is called hypocrisy.-
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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In addition, the unvote thing is ridiculous. Why? Because clearly I have a good enough case on you to lynch you. Only one more vote other than me to the hammer. If I was scum all I would have to do is convince one more person, and there are plenty left, that you were scum and bam, mislynch (If I were scum, which I'm not. Yeah, I am pretty much doing the whole I am town in parentheses thing to mock you, but in a playful way, I swear).
Instead I am giving my fellow townies (cuz im town) an option to see what they think of this back and forth and to see if your post strikes them in a similar way in which it did to me. Optimal scum play would be to stay the hell on the wagon and keep pressuring you.-
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xvart Mafia Scum
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He was scum because he was scummy? Solid read there. What about his reads were scummy? What specifically in his little to no content posting were you able to decipher a scummy intent? And since when does asking someone their thoughts equal calling the person you are asking about scummy?Slaxx, 607 wrote:Oso was scum d1 because he was scummy. His reads were scummy and he was deflective. He posted little to no content, and when he did it didnt seem genuine. I expressed concern by telling Parama to Iso OSo and see what he thought.
My "problem" is that Oso/Socrates seems to have always been scum based on a relationship to someone else. You have never pushed for Oso/Socrates other than if someone else is scum despite being scared that Oso scum was going to kill you at night.Slaxx, 607 wrote:Pretty clear to me. Idk what your problem is bro.
I wouldn't call you putting pressure on me in the timeframe you are speaking. I removed my vote after you clarified a misread/misconception I had about something you posted. You corrected something in my justification for voting you, which made my vote invalid at the time.Slaxx, 607 wrote:Also, I recall you unvoting me after I put you under pressure. So what we've got here is called hypocrisy.
xvart.I only read quote walls.
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The gist of xvart's defense is WIFOM and meta from what I can tell.
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There's way too much for me to respond to everything right now, btw. Might take a harder look at stuff later.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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He claimed vanilla, just in case you ever bother reading.charter wrote:
I thought it was pretty good WIFOM. His post made me about 99% sure he's scum, though.Slaxx wrote:Xvart, surely you can WIFOM better than that.
Scum flailing. hammer. I don't want to hear a claim from him.-
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Yes, this is accurate. I haven't contributed a lot today and I didn't mention Bud hardly at all. There was nothing I could do about that and since I was vanilla I had no false expectation of getting out of being lynched. Then Slaxx posted this nugget and everything came rushing to me so I went back and checked it out.Lowell, 610 wrote:A couple of pages ago Xvart tried the "oh well, sorry i'm not being more helpful, good luck town" quasi-quit for sympathy. The last two pages he sees a glimmer of hope and his tone has slowly changed. He's a good lynch.
Actually, none of my defense is WIFOM; but I did throw out some observations of what I had been constantly thinking about when thinking about mafia over the last week. My defense is how scummy Slaxx is and how he is the optimal lynch.Parama, 613 wrote:The gist of xvart's defense is WIFOM and meta from what I can tell.
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Don't worry, I shall speak to you tomorrow from beyond the grave. At least we (and by we I mean everyone else) lynched scum D1 so we are ahead right now. Slaxx, you might as well hammer me because you will either be lynched today (if my wagon falters) or tomorrow (when people read what I'm saying in the context of my confirmed flip). You not so subtly get off the wagon you orchestrated, which is the most damning piece considering the context of your unvote.
Slaxx - You seem to be pushing this connection between Socrates and I. Is Socrates more likely scum based off of my flip or am I more likely scum based on Socrates flip?
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It pains Ein to say this, but he will be looking at Slaxx tomorrow if xvart flips town-
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If xvart flips town, any vig with a brain should vig Slaxx.
In the absence of that, we have to waste a lynch on him D3 :/ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Vote Count 2.08
xvart(5): charter, Parama, DemonHybrid, Socrates, Lowell
Slaxx(1): xvart
Xine(1): WeaponsofMassConstruction
charter(1): Xine
Not Voting:boberz, Slaxx
xvart is at L-1
6to lynch.
Deadline for D2 can be found hereYthan, on my play: "Scummy and bad are not the same. Some players manage to keep them separate, though I applaud how masterfully you blend them."-
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boberz Mafia Scum
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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Partial gut, partially because I can't put a scum motivation (especially with Soc) into your last couple posts. I don't know why as scum you would be trying this hard to frame me. I mean if you're scum all this effort you put into the lynch was wasted, because I had/have hammer for a short period of time, I think. There was nothing else for you to do as scum except keep your mouth shut, because the more you talk the more it would clear me and incriminate whoever is left. Plus when you pointed out the thing with me directing the track I think thats way more likely to come from town.
Here's the deal: I can't talk myself out of this. The fact that there are already people lining up to lynch me tomorrow probably means you're town and they are setting up me as tomorrow's lynch. There is no way to prove this thought ptocess to anyone. Everyone is going to see it as scum backing off of a wagon. That's fine. Its my fault I played that way. But I am not going to just hammer you under these circumstances now. If I'm right, that is two wasted lynches. So instead I am offering myself up today. Just give me a few days to reread the thread.
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