:sees Dasquian's face:Dasquian wrote:Hold on... we lynchedCoron? The tracker?
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this afternoon this thread was at page 22 we are at page 29 now, we're crazy xD
I feel bad for those who have to catch up.Showyou done goofed.
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Oh. My. Goodness.
I have no idea whether Coron is going to show up as scum or town (I can see arguments for both), but my goodness that was a *lot* of posting overnight, guys. I could not believe how many new pages you'd managed to create in less than twelve hours. Urgh.
I have to go and train people now, so by the time I come back, no doubt Coron's allegiance will have been revealed and we'll be in night.-
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I too am going to bed now, Apologies to our British friends for all the reading you will have to do, but I feel pretty confident in our Coron Lynch.Showyou done goofed.
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OK, I read up.
Those last 6-7 pages of fervent discussion? Excellent, excellent stuff. It's a real shame only about four of you were there to have it. Here's what I think:
Near is probably town; the level of genuine self-sacrifice when put on the spot makes it highly unlikely he's not, unless, as others have said, he's scumwithCoron (which we'll have evidence/counter-evidence of very shortly).
Guardian is either an idiot who'll lead us all to our graves, a master scum-hunter who'll lead us to a glorious victory, or scum playing the fiddle like a pro. Having been the recipient of one of his "ya gotta TRUST me" bandwagons, and seen another on Yosarian just before the end-of-day madness, in which he startedanotheron Coron, I'm not feeling good about the second. This guy needs watching or preferably lynching.
Mac I like because he stopped me being on the menu for an absentee rushlynch. Thanks dude. Beyond that, no real read on yesterday's madness.
DBE could be scum as much as she ever was, needs revisiting.
mbf... I dunno. I get a bad vibe, he managed to effectively instigate the Coron lynch without fighting for it, but that probably was genuine coincidence given the speed it all went through.
Basically I think Near is off of the menu and, depending on how the lynch goes, Guardian, DBE and others are back on it.[size=84]QUACK[/size]-
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As the sun started to set, the town had reached a decision. Near was not going to speak, so he had to die.
Half of the elders left the group to pick up the dusty rope, which had not been used for years. The rest remained behind to hold Near until his fateful hour. But when the sun set, a tear ran down Near's cheek.
N - You know what? I really hate dying
G - That's it!
All - What?
G - Near... he is innocent! And Coron is guilty! I'm sure of it!
N - But he said he was someone important...
G - No, folks, listen here...
A furious discussion followed - and at the very last moment, when Coron was just returning with the lynching implements, the group rushed him and quickly ran him down.
Coron,the tracker, never knew why suddenly the town had decided to turn on him.
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It is nowNight 1. Players with ability to speak at night may do so. Players with Night action may PM me. I expect to begin day 2 in about 4 days.
Final Vote Count!
Coron 4 - MBF, Guardian, DBE, Mac
DarlaBlueEyes 3 - Yosarian2, Coron, Dasquian
Near 3 - Singing Librarian, Joudas, Near
Guardian 1 - PyroDwarf
Not voting:
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Day 2:
EvilGorrilaz was the quiet, pensative type. He liked being by himself, and recent events only increased his introspective nature. No one saw him during the lynching of Coron, and no one saw him head back to his cottage by himself that evening.
In the early hours of the next day, the village awoke to the sounds of shots being fired - everyone gathered in the center of Montescuro, and it took quite a while before they realized that EvilGorrilaz was the one missing this time.
Two people were sent to check in his house and, surely enough, the door was missing, and EG's body was found laying on the floor, several bullet wounds through his chest and abdomen.
The villagers prepare a quick funeral for the departed, before discussing what to do next.
EvilGorrilaz,a townie, was Killed night 1.
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Hey guys, good morning. So, I'm town.....
Um, no really.
Preemptively: I thought Coron was a lot scummier than Near for reasons outlined. I find it likely from Near's play that Near is indeed town, much more likely than I'd ever have thought Coron to be. Sorry for rush lynching the tracker, but I think it was the best option we had. His claiming was entirely out of order, his trying to get DBE to claim was bad, his play was in general, bad, and Near was a worse lynch, and so was DBE.
Secondly, how the hell did the scum decide to kill Evilgorillaz. I was pretty suspicious of him reading over the game last night.
Hm. Time to re-read again with Evil=town in mind...Do not lynch me.
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I still don't know what possessed you guys to do such a quick turnaround. It's scummy, you don't get to shrug this off and say "sorry". Fact is at one part of yesterday's last minute rush, I was being touted as the possible lynch, and you would've done that without even knowing what my role-claim would've been. The only reason you didn't was because you couldn't get enough votes with the few people you had.
Vote: Guardian
You're scum and your tactic is to tell people what to do, preying on the indecisiveness of others in the hope that your apparent certainty is mistaken for a genuine case. You were wrong about me, you were wrong about Coron and you know what? I reckon you were wrong about Yos2 too.[size=84]QUACK[/size]-
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Yeah, that last minute Coron wagon was just bizzare. Mike, Guardian, could you explain again why you guys thought Coron was scum? The argument you guys kept giving was basically "Coron is scum who claimed tracker in order to somehow disrupt the Near wagon", and that never made any sense at all to me. And it seems that during the night you decided that Near was actually town, which made the argument even more absurd, and yet you went ahead and lynched Coron anyway. Could you explain your actions here?I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie-
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Yos:
Dasquian -- since when does me convincing other people with logic I am convinced by become an indication of me being scum?Guardian in 601 wrote:Coron is scum because the timing at which he claimed is something that would only be done by a scummy, scummy, scumbag.
Townies only claim when near deadline or at lynch -1 at threat of them being lynched.
Coron claimed a while before deadline, and because he "felt pressured by my attac" of one vote
town players who do this draw the doc to them, MAYBE, IF THERE IS ONE, and have given the scum more info. there is damn little reason for a townie to do what Coron did.
scum otoh would hope to deflect all attention from them, since "ooh they are a power role". also, draw doc protect is AWESOME for scum, free range to kill whomever. Also they might draw out another investigative role like you said. if a cop for instance claimed, coron could be like "OH, but COP + tracker = legit". ANd wouldnt even be lycnhed maybe, and get a counterclaimd cop.
Town ==> VERY LITTLE to gain from claiming.
Scum ==> SUPER LOTS to gain from claiming.
Premise: Coron is a rational agent
Conclusion: Coron, acting rationally, only would have claimed like he did as scum.
Voterz for coornDo not lynch me.
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What's that mean? Are you annoyed that you are responsible for a tracker lynch, and going to lash out at me now for my leading question, or for daring to suspect you for supporting the same lynch I did?mikeburnfire wrote:...
Going to respond to this?:Guardian in 558 wrote:
I agree with you on 3/4 of the above (all but Duck)... Your attacks on me this game have been irrational and ill founded...mbf wrote:Guardian,I disagree with you on everything so far this game. Coron is scummy, I don't want to lynch Near, I don't think Dasq is suspicious, and I don't want to lynch DBE now that she's claimed a power role, but there's only 8 hours until the deadline.
Coron's play has just stunk.
I'd support lynching him over Near if it came to that.
However, I believe we have3.5 hours, not 10 still, as people are saying.
So anything that happens's gotta happen fast. I'll be on for about an hour, and will make my final vote then.
According to the mod's rules, 4 votes = lynch at dealdine, so as long as someone is >= than that, they die.Do not lynch me.
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Because a large part of your convincing isn't logic, it's showboating.Guardian wrote:Dasquian -- since when does me convincing other people with logic I am convinced by become an indication of me being scum?
You attempt to convince other people by being so insistent that other people assume the logic is there; you run your cases like a political campaign, putting in cheap shots (like when you red-bolded my name) and calling for people to join you over and over so that people assume you must have a case because youappearso fervent, rather than actually concentrating on the case itself.[size=84]QUACK[/size]-
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that's not correct.Dasquian wrote:You're missing the point, and you know it.
Why? Why is drumming up bandwagons I find to be good bandwagons suspicious? How does that possibly follow?Dasquian wrote:You are suspicious because you are attempting to drum up bandwagons more through enthusiasm and emotion than reason and logic, using the former to make up for deficits in the latter.
If I had unlimited day-vigs that ended the day, would I be 'suspicious' for using them every day to kill my best guess of scum -- knowing that my best guess may be wrong, but is not scum influenced?
If I could convince, in some manner, a majority of players every day, to lynch a player of my choice, would I be 'suspicious' for doing so to lynch my best guess of scum -- knowing that my best guess may be wrong, but is not scum influenced?
Dasquian, I hate to break it to you, but lynching players you find suspicious, and convincing others to do so, will never be a scum tell. At least not in my book.
You've failed to demonstrate in any manner that Coron wasn't my best guess of possible lynches as to which would be a scum lynch. It was, so I tried to, and succeeded in, making it happen.Do not lynch me.
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