JereIC - 1 (Netlava)
FishytheFish - 4 (Light-kun, JereIC, Looker, tubby216)
Looker - 3 (HowardRoark, FishytheFish, DraketheFake)
Not Voting - 1 (Jazzmyn)
9 alive, 5 to lynch
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(Vote Count accurate as of Post 761)
What do you want? Some "pretty please"s? *sigh*Looker wrote:You'll never get anywhere if you keep going about things that wayDraketheFake wrote:This is honestly all you can contribute after calls for a prod?Looker wrote:...and...the fish...is still...alive...
Unvote, Vote: Looker.
Sure thing.JereIC wrote:Care to expand on that thought?
You know, it's interesting. You've called for Looker to post more content a few times, but nowhere near as vehemently as any of the rest. And now you're defending Looker for no reason other than it's me doing the attacking. Do you really think there's no case against Looker? Or are you just sticking your neck out for your scum-buddy since nobody else seems to want you lynched?Light-kun wrote:You seem desperate to make a case against him, and this charge just isn't going to stick.
So, you'd suggest that I get off of Fishy's wagon because I don't know why Looker is on it?DraketheFake wrote:Sure thing.JereIC wrote:Care to expand on that thought?
As a rule of thumb, I like to be on wagons with people who have what I consider to be legitimate and pro-town reasons for voting for the same person as me, even if they aren't necessarily my reasons exactly. I would take it as a bad sign if there were a lot of players voting for a player I was voting for without giving their reasons, the same way that I would naturally be more suspicious of a vote without stated reasons past the RVS.
Know why you don't know Looker's reasons? Because she hasn't posted any reasonable ones. She's deflecting the way a cocky scum would, and Light-kun leaping to her aid here makes me wonder if he didn't also express consternation over her lack of content.
I'd suggest you get off Fishy's wagon if you don't think he's the best lynch for the day. That conclusion could come from any number of reasons. One might be that you suspect that scummier players are the ones wagoning along with you. Right now you're voting for a player in common with someone you suspect of faking a species claim (at the very least end of his suspiciousness) and a player who has yet to post any actual reasoning for why she has ever voted for the player.JereIC wrote:So, you'd suggest that I get off of Fishy's wagon because I don't know why Looker is on it?
Right, but you can help it that you haven't provided a shred of analysis to support your claims. Your continued obstinacy in regards to providing any long ago surpassed the realm of the lazy townie.Looker wrote:Anyway, I can't help it my first vote was the best vote which is why I'm not switching it left and right. Fish is the scum, we've found him, and I think that you're scum.
How about this motive? Scum hoping to slide by on a bit of a newbie card. Heck, she might have discovered a great play style. If you always play that way, and with the odds of being town-aligned higher than that of being scum-aligned, and other players let you coast because of it . . . this is a great meta to have as scum.DraketheFake (730) wrote:I mean that there appears to be no ulterior motive to Looker's play, just poorly thought-out one-liners and a total lack of contribution.
Some facts: DraketheFake was the first one to vote for you today (463) and dropped you back to zero votes (483) without anyone else voting you. I had an issue with your quick acceptance of the Light-kun Vig claim, but had no other issues with your play. If I felt that you were scummier than some of the votes on your wagon or than some of the other players (i.e. Looker), then I would have no problem hammering you.Fishythefish (739) wrote:- In fact, even DtF and, particularly, Howard, are possible. They both supported me when my lynch looked likely without their help, and couldn't hammer given their previous positions. DtF less so, since he jumped off my wagon at a key point.
It's about not tunneling on one player and keeping your eyes open for other scum.Netlava (748) wrote:My target? I don't like to think that I have some sort of "target" - that makes it seem like I'm just picking someone to accuse.
Drake's unvote may have come when I was on no votes, but at that stage it was very likely my wagon was going to gain support, very likely from all of Jere, Jazz and L-k, and possibly from you. I have to admit my impression was that DtF was voting for me for rather longer than the 20 posts he was, but he jumped off my wagon at an extremely odd time for scum.HowardRoark wrote:Some facts: DraketheFake was the first one to vote for you today (463) and dropped you back to zero votes (483) without anyone else voting you. I had an issue with your quick acceptance of the Light-kun Vig claim, but had no other issues with your play. If I felt that you were scummier than some of the votes on your wagon or than some of the other players (i.e. Looker), then I would have no problem hammering you.
Yeah I get the whole "strike while the iron's hot" thing, but your 'refutation' (see what I did there?) of my case relied on a lot of the same types of things you seemed to take issue with in my post about you, in which I interpreted trends I saw in your posting that I'm going to think are there regardless of how many times you cry "misrepresentation." If other people have questions I'll be glad to answer them and point them to other reading on you.Jazzmyn wrote:Amazing. You respond to my last post within 9 minutes, but you couldn't reply to my prior post refuting your nonsensical 'case' against me over the course of several days.
Assuming three scum, then yes. Also, thank you for sharing your list (although a day after I asked for justNetlava (767) wrote:I believe this is lylo
Why is that? Being a non-CCed claimed doctor and not being NKed is understandable? You said that you protected JereIC N1 because he appeared pro-town; who did you protect last night and why?DraketheFake (769) wrote:Now, not killing me I understand.
I'm not going to attempt to out-think the scum. Why would the scum want a fair fight?DraketheFake (769) wrote:But Looker? Looker of all people? Did they think she was a power role, or were they simply trying to give themselves a fair fight?
I have to agree with you on this point.DraketheFake (769) wrote:I'm willing to cede that the lack of second kill + Light-kun's suspicion of me all day yesterday probably makes it more likely that he's the vig than not.
Because I was still under pretty heavy suspicion at the end of yesterday, especially for the way that I claimed. It's a good WIFOM game for the scum to play, since they figure they can probably kill me at any point, and Looker does indeed make sense from the perspective of me never thinking to protect him. I'm gonna keep under my hat who I protected until I'm sure there isn't going to be a tracker claim of some kind.HowardRoark wrote:Why is that? Being a non-CCed claimed doctor and not being NKed is understandable? You said that you protected JereIC N1 because he appeared pro-town; who did you protect last night and why?
Agreed. I'd like Jazzmyn to go next.Light-kun wrote:I think a species claim first is best.
Well, I'll have to go through the thread and post why, probably sometime later. But replacing into the game, JereIC and Nuwen were my top suspects.Howard wrote:Assuming three scum, then yes. Also, thank you for sharing your list (although a day after I asked for just one alternative suspect). What brings you to these conclusions? Especially that Light-kun is a SK and not a Vig.