726 - Mind Screw Gaiden, Game Over

[Tarhalindur]

Oh, right, random vote time. Testing on the off chance that Natirasha is pulling anything vote-related out of my usual bag of tricks:

Vote: forbiddanlight
FoS: Vi
FoS: Stef
HoS: Kairyuu

[Tarhalindur]

Side note to Kinetic since he's actually in this game...

You're not the only player in this game that dearly loves to and is rather good at breaking setups in half given enough information. (See Mafia 75, among others.)

Also, you won Freaktown 4 because you had the ability we couldn't foresee (we thought we had, at bare minimum, equal votes to the town, which would have won us the game if not for our votes being irrelevant) and were able to convince us you were UNK.

[veerus]

I was told to start playing. So here I am... playing...

vote: forbiddanlight

because, well, that's what I do after she does what she does.

[Natirasha]

"Imitation is the greatest form of flattery."

[quote="The Second Vote Count(AKA the "Ditto is a horny bastard" Vote Count)"]Vote Count
Natirasha(3): Kairyuu, MafiaSSK, forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(1): Tarhalindur
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(2): Kinetic, Vi
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (0):

FoS Count
Natirasha(2): hp [leaves], forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(0):
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(0):
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (1): Tarhalindur[/quote]

[Illumina]

/confirm, and FoS: Natirasha. There's a reason the FoS's are listed, and I want to figure out what it is.

Nothing like secret information to make d1 interesting... Didn't expect to see the metal/flesh mechanic in this game.

[Vi]

There's a reason the FoS's are listed, and I want to figure out what it is.

Most often, that reason is "to complicate your life". I think only two of Tarhalindur's roles used them, out of the however-many games he's done.

Personally, I don't use FoS, so it seems kinda useless to me.

Ditto is a horny bastard

No.

"Imitation is the

sincerest

form of flattery."

Fixed.
BTW, I'm a perfectionist at heart

-----

hp, what gave you the punisher role idea in post 8?

[Tarhalindur]

BINGO! He's pulling the same thing I did in Mind Screw II (at bare minimum...): One FoS per player. UnFoSing is almost certainly required to move FoS'es.

That leaves open at least three abilities that I've used in the past: Vote/FoS inversion (where FoS'es count as votes and votes count as FoS'es, therefore lynches are determined by FoSes once the ability is activated; used as a Dreams of Reality action in Mind Screw II and possibly 3); FoS-vote (a player's FoS counts as a vote, usually associated with the role name Kaname Chidori in my games); and Inversion (a player who is lynched when he receives a majority of FoS'es instead of votes... see, well, Natirasha's role in Mind Screw II).

In other news, there is no evidence of the Ozmodiar mechanic from Mind Screw 1.

Also of note: 12 players in game, no mysterious deaths, so it's doubtful we have hidden players due to the definition of a Mini game. (If someone has reason to dispute this, now's the time to speak up. Assuming you can, that is.)

Now, further testing to confirm hypotheses:

Unvote, Vote: Battle Mage

(this should work)

UnFoS, FoS: fluffy bunnies

(so should this)

[MafiaSSK]

UnFoS, FoS: fluffy bunnies

(so should this)

Not enough people realize the joy of FOS talking.

Fos: Floofy bunnies are better

[Vi]

In other news, there is no evidence of the Ozmodiar mechanic from Mind Screw 1.

With all due respect,

thank Mod for that.

FoS: lol I'm arguing with myself

(I'm not selling out my values, I'm only temporarily bartering them for comedy's sake)

[Tarhalindur]

In other news, there is no evidence of the Ozmodiar mechanic from Mind Screw 1.

With all due respect,

thank Mod for that.

It's plenty annoying enough as a Mod. You should see what it does to my vote count accuracy. (Which is bad enough even during the best of times, let alone with other odd vote mechanics...)

Wait a minute... if Nat's drawing too much inspiration from me, we might want to be careful with votes. They might be, how shall we say, *sticky* at some point.

[Natirasha]

Tick Tock. Tick Tock. The mouse went up the clock.

[quote="The Third Vote Count(AKA the "Epileptic Trees" Vote Count)"]Vote Count
Natirasha(3): Kairyuu, MafiaSSK, forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(1): veerus
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(2): Kinetic, Vi
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (0):
Battle Mage(1): Tarhalindur

FoS Count
Natirasha(2): hp [leaves], forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(0):
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(0):
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (0):
fluffy bunnies(1): Tarhalindur
Floofy bunnies(1): MafiaSSK
lol I am arguing with myself(1): Vi[/quote]

[Vi]

Kinetic, what is your motive for an origin claim? I see Tarhalindur has provided one, but you're not him so yeah.

[Tarhalindur]

Tick Tock. Tick Tock. The mouse went up the clock.

Oh FRAK, that's Hickory Dickory Dock. Either Nat's trying to mind fuck me specifically or we're on a short deadline; that ability name has ALWAYS been associated with a fixed deadline in my Mind Screw games, usually of a short duration.

More annoyingly, no-one has slipped up yet. Random bandwagon ahoy!

Unvote, Vote: veerus

(Wait a minute... where did veerus's vote for forbiddanlight go?)

Mod: Are the second and third vote counts correct? (Specifically, is veerus's vote for forbiddanlight supposed to not show up?)

No, I just fail.

[Vi]

tbqh, and if you'll excuse my pessimism, I think most of the mind screwing ITT is coming from Natirasha deliberately getting you to overreact.
I will concede it's entertaining, though...

I thought you were going to ask for an origin claim, though?

@people who have modded a game like this before: How often do you give anti-Town (specifically, Mafia) roles "extra information"?

[veerus]

Can anyone explain what the origin claim will accomplish?

[Kairyuu]

Ok then, since we all seem to be reavealing that we have specific information, I may as well do so too.

I would like to suggest a mass nameclaim, since I have some name information that can help out a bit. However, I would be perfectly content with waiting until after the origin claim (which I don't have any objections to) and narrowing down my search.

Also, Nat's threats don't bother me. He claimed SK in his FAQ post, and seems to have self-voted. I'm content with my vote for now.

[MafiaSSK]

I could do origin claim.

[Tarhalindur]

Interestingly, Kairyuu's claimed role-based information sounds much like my own (I asked for origin-claim because I doubt there are more than two people with the origin in question).

I could also go for a name claim (high risk, high reward scenario).

[forbiddanlight]

So, everyone WANTS to trip possible name claim punisher roles? This does sound like a great idea, yanno. Let it be known I am rather opposed.

[Natirasha]

"Just a small town girl. Living in a lonely world. She took the midnight train going a-ny-where. Just a city boy. Born & raised in South Detroit. He took the midnight train going a-ny-where."

[quote="The Fourth Vote Count(AKA the "Journey Is Better Than Rick Astley" Vote Count"]Vote Count
Natirasha(3): Kairyuu, MafiaSSK, forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(1): veerus
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(2): Kinetic, Vi
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(1): Tarhalindur
Vi (0):
Battle Mage(0):

FoS Count
Natirasha(2): hp [leaves], forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(0):
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(1): Kinetic
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(0):
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (0):
fluffy bunnies(1): Tarhalindur
Floofy bunnies(1): MafiaSSK
lol I am arguing with myself(1): Vi[/quote]

[Vi]

Mod Watch says the flavor is improving

[Kairyuu]

I see. So Tar, your information is similar to mine? I suspect you may be who I am lookin for. I will origin claim if you do, but I would request that you go first.

@Kinetic: I don't like that idea too much. I would prefer a straight origin massclaim. I will, of course, stop it once I have the information that I need.

I propose Tar to start, because I think we may not need any more than his claim.

Also, I will be V/LA for a bit. Ill still be around, but not all that much.

[Natirasha]

"I choose you, Haunter!"

Please post moar. I'd hate to get my prodstick out this early.

[quote="The Fourth Vote Count(AKA the "Dream Eater" Vote Count"]Vote Count
Natirasha(3): Kairyuu, MafiaSSK, forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(1): veerus
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(0):
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(2): Kinetic, Vi
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(1): Tarhalindur
Vi (0):
Battle Mage(0):

FoS Count
Natirasha(2): hp [leaves], forbiddanlight
forbiddanlight(0):
hp [leaves](0):
illumina(0):
Kairyuu(1): Kinetic
Kinetic(0):
MafiaSSK(0):
populartajo(0):
Spambot(0):
Stef(0):
Tarhalindur(0):
veerus(0):
Vi (0):
fluffy bunnies(1): Tarhalindur
Floofy bunnies(1): MafiaSSK
lol I am arguing with myself(1): Vi[/quote]

[MafiaSSK]

I see. So Tar, your information is similar to mine? I suspect you may be who I am lookin for. I will origin claim if you do, but I would request that you go first.

@Kinetic: I don't like that idea too much. I would prefer a straight origin massclaim. I will, of course, stop it once I have the information that I need.

I propose Tar to start, because I think we may not need any more than his claim.

Also, I will be V/LA for a bit. Ill still be around, but not all that much.

Wait, so you want to out other's origins when you just want one?

Fos Kairyuu

[veerus]

I suppose I wouldn't be entirely against a name claim, though I doubt it'll accomplish anything. Any name could be either town or scum (plus there are safeclaims) and the few roles that have name information likely don't have enough information or it is misleading/incomplete to break the set up.