The Werewolves of Millers Hollow (Game Over)

[Shadow Knight]

OMG- Stop with the quote pyramids. There aren't *that* many convos going on right now.

[Battle Mage]

unvote, Vote to Lynch: Xtoxm

I do not like that kind of play one bit.

I'm not shifting my mayor vote off myself unless I'm absolutely sure the person I'd be giving it to is Pro-Town.

This is a respectable stance, but not very realistic. You are unlikely to get that kind of assurity on day 1. Our best bet is to pick someone today, and make sure they are held accountable as much as possible. Odds on, unless we get consequtive scum lynches, the Mayor will probably change on a daily basis. Such is the way with Kingmaker style games.

BM

Well, I've never played a game with this mechanic, so I'll take your word for it. Personally, I prefer to keep my vote on me for as long as possible, since I'd rather like to use it well. Of course, you could all make it easy and vote me for mayor. :p

You dont have to take my word for it. You could, like, read the first page of any Kingmaker/Consulmaker/Presidentmaker (a personal favourite) game.
What you mean to say is, you want to keep your vote inactive, until you can gain brownie points by making a casting vote. Afraid to commit yourself?

BM

No. I mean, I want to use my vote wisely. There's a difference.

can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.

BM

[Xtoxm]

Vote Xtoxm for mayor

When you fail at lynching me i'll be confirmed town, so i'm the best choice.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

In my experience, there's never a bad time to lynch Xtoxm.

[Jahudo]

I don't buy X's claim. I've heard of Unlynchable as both a town and scum role anyway.

I bet he's actually a UNK SK. This is the perfect fake claim for that.

unvote;
Vote: Xtoxm for Mayor

unvote;
Vote: Xtoxm for Lynch

[Shadow Knight]

I'd say that xtoxm's claim at least gives us something to discuss, but if he's telling the truth, it just boils down to a discussion about whether a no lynch is good day one.

[Gorrad]

In my experience, there's never a bad time to lynch Xtoxm.

QFT.

[Battle Mage]

Vote Xtoxm for mayor

When you fail at lynching me i'll be confirmed town, so i'm the best choice.

sadly, you wont. Its not completely unheard of for scum to have 1 shot unlynchability. In fact, i've used it as a role in a game i've modded, as it can give the scum a strong edge.

I'll only be content of your towniness, after 2 successful lynch survivals, at which point i can probably conclude that it isnt mod bastardery. But ofc, you dont have a problem with that, do you?

BM

[dingoatemybaby]

I'm unlynchable.

Can you explain if and how revealing this now is helpful to the town?

[DizzyIzzyB13]

can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.

BM

No. All my recent games are either ongoing or were marathon games which wouldn't provide useful data due to the nature of the set-ups.

[Battle Mage]

I don't buy X's claim. I've heard of Unlynchable as both a town and scum role anyway.

Quoted for Absolute Truth.

I bet he's actually a UNK SK. This is the perfect fake claim for that.

unvote;
Vote: Xtoxm for Mayor

WHY??

BM

[Shadow Knight]

@Jahudo- he could be any number of things. He could be a Jester (although I pray the mod would let us know if we had to be on the lookout for that). He could just have an alternate win condition of getting lynched day one. He could be Judas or Vampire, or something similar (don't really recall how those roles work to be honest).

[Battle Mage]

can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.

BM

No. All my recent games are either ongoing or were marathon games which wouldn't provide useful data due to the nature of the set-ups.

Lol, i dont mind if they are ongoing, as long as the mod doesnt have a problem. Most find it acceptable, as long as you are dead in that game.

If not, a sample of older games will have to suffice.

BM

[Battle Mage]

I'm unlynchable.

Can you explain if and how revealing this now is helpful to the town?

exactly. He's not town.

BM

[Xtoxm]

Vote Xtoxm for mayor

When you fail at lynching me i'll be confirmed town, so i'm the best choice.

sadly, you wont. Its not completely unheard of for scum to have 1 shot unlynchability. In fact, i've used it as a role in a game i've modded, as it can give the scum a strong edge.

I'll only be content of your towniness, after 2 successful lynch survivals, at which point i can probably conclude that it isnt mod bastardery. But ofc, you dont have a problem with that, do you?

BM

BM is Gorrad's scumbuddy...He wants to No Lynch twice.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.

BM

No. All my recent games are either ongoing or were marathon games which wouldn't provide useful data due to the nature of the set-ups.

Lol, i dont mind if they are ongoing, as long as the mod doesnt have a problem. Most find it acceptable, as long as you are dead in that game.

If not, a sample of older games will have to suffice.

BM

I'm not dead in any of them. And as far I can tell, the only game I can find that I actually started, I was a Mafia RB, so... problem. I'll keep looking.

[Battle Mage]

Vote Xtoxm for mayor

When you fail at lynching me i'll be confirmed town, so i'm the best choice.

sadly, you wont. Its not completely unheard of for scum to have 1 shot unlynchability. In fact, i've used it as a role in a game i've modded, as it can give the scum a strong edge.

I'll only be content of your towniness, after 2 successful lynch survivals, at which point i can probably conclude that it isnt mod bastardery. But ofc, you dont have a problem with that, do you?

BM

BM is Gorrad's scumbuddy...He wants to No Lynch twice.

Have you got any better ideas? You're the buffoon who put us into this situation. I hope for your sake you aren't town....

BM

[Jahudo]

@BM: A feeling I get from my X as SK meta.

@Shadow: I certainly hope there aren't jesters but now that you mention it I bet there is a Vampire in this game. It fits the theme perfectly. I'm not familiar with the strategy so I don't know if they'd make themselves a target for a lynch or NK so early.

[Battle Mage]

can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.

BM

No. All my recent games are either ongoing or were marathon games which wouldn't provide useful data due to the nature of the set-ups.

Lol, i dont mind if they are ongoing, as long as the mod doesnt have a problem. Most find it acceptable, as long as you are dead in that game.

If not, a sample of older games will have to suffice.

BM

I'm not dead in any of them. And as far I can tell, the only game I can find that I actually started, I was a Mafia RB, so... problem. I'll keep looking.

ok a link to that will be a start, thanks. There is a reason im asking this-not just sending you on a wild goose chase.

BM

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Hmm, I found another, but I was Mafia in that one, too. That appears to be it. =/

[Battle Mage]

@BM: A feeling I get from my X as SK meta.

@Shadow: I certainly hope there aren't jesters but now that you mention it I bet there is a Vampire in this game. It fits the theme perfectly. I'm not familiar with the strategy so I don't know if they'd make themselves a target for a lynch or NK so early.

No, why did you vote him for Mayor? 0.o'

Ugh, im such a dumbass. Whats a vampire?

BM

[Percy]

@Xtomx: I think claiming 'unlynchable' makes you the perfect scum target. If you're pro-town and also the mayor, what makes you think you'll survive tonight?

My vote stays.



And anyways, I agree with the general principal of voting for a player who smells kinda town for mayor, and keeping a very close eye on them for the rest of the game.

I know mayor

sounds

awesome ("Shit yeah, I'm the goddamned MAYOR!"), but those 'running' for mayor obviously have a rather high opinion of their scumhunting skills, or are scum. I will

Unvote for Mayor

until a candidate addresses the (actually serious) question: What would make you a good mayor?


@BM: I don't think a short day is

ever

in the town's favour. What would make you think otherwise?

[DizzyIzzyB13]

ok a link to that will be a start, thanks. There is a reason im asking this-not just sending you on a wild goose chase.

BM

Best I can do with games I've started:

Newbie 586 in which Izzy plays the part of Mafia RB

Open 72 in which Izzy plays the part of a Mafia goon.

[Battle Mage]

@Xtomx: I think claiming 'unlynchable' makes you the perfect scum target. If you're pro-town and also the mayor, what makes you think you'll survive tonight?

My vote stays.



And anyways, I agree with the general principal of voting for a player who smells kinda town for mayor, and keeping a very close eye on them for the rest of the game.

I know mayor

sounds

awesome ("Shit yeah, I'm the goddamned MAYOR!"), but those 'running' for mayor obviously have a rather high opinion of their scumhunting skills, or are scum. I will

Unvote for Mayor

until a candidate addresses the (actually serious) question: What would make you a good mayor?


@BM: I don't think a short day is

ever

in the town's favour. What would make you think otherwise?

A short day is in the town's favour, if a longer day will produce little further scumhunting (due to the lynch already being decided, and further suspicions being subject to that result) and revealing of protown power roles, as often happens in early games. Its also in the towns favour if the scum havent had time to settle into the game yet. Hopefully they might feel a little lost, although this is more of a long shot.

As far as a campaign goes, i think Shadow Knight summed it up pretty well. I'm probably the most active person here, so i wont lurk or anything, and you'll have plenty of time to judge me. I'm blatantly protown as anyone can see, and i'm pretty experienced. Also, im really easy to read, so putting me in the limelight should reap pretty rapid rewards as far as analysing me goes.

As far as i see it, those who want to be mayor arent necessarily arrogant or scum. They are just being selfish, and finding the simplest route to fulfill their win condition. If we all vote for ourselves, nobody will get anywhere.

BM

[Battle Mage]

ok a link to that will be a start, thanks. There is a reason im asking this-not just sending you on a wild goose chase.

BM

Best I can do with games I've started:

Newbie 586 in which Izzy plays the part of Mafia RB

Open 72 in which Izzy plays the part of a Mafia goon.

you didnt seem to have a problem random voting in either of those games. Is this a change of policy, or do you think random voting is a scumtell for you?

BM