MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (fl's subgame): Game Over

[Papa Zito]

vote: SpyreX

Chmmr > Ur-Quan

Vote : Zazier.

Also Vino is prob town. Yes, I know he is in the other game but Im that awesome.

lol

@Mod: Talking about the other two subgames doesn't count as talking about another ongoing game, does it?

Why no, it doesn't

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Since we've approached this game with the subtlety of tank and if you're following the other game then you know what's going on. Yes, I'm a neutral lover with Benmage in Tar's game. We have a win condition that if we end up in the same game then we have fufilled our win condition, we are removed from the game and it otherwise continues as normal. So if someone could move one of us into the other's game that would be great, thanks.

Also, Sajin is still an idiot.

I'm stealing the first part of the sentence sometime

[Papa Zito]

Why no, it doesn't

Groovie. Can't be too careful.

Who else thinks that this lover business is a scum gambit?

Danny, claim your role, plz.

[ZazieR]

I wouldn't be too surprised if it was a scum gambit.
So I'm going to watch both of them to see if it's the truth or not.

[ZazieR]

The only thing is that it's testable. By sending them to one place together, it will be shown as the truth or a lie.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

There's a simple way to test out whether it's a scum gambit or not. Help get us in the same game, we'll be RFG'ed and out of your hair and if we're not there's your proof that something screwy is going on.

[Mufasa]

its still pregame and you are throwing out these claims and stuff geesh haha

[Papa Zito]

its still pregame and you are throwing out these claims and stuff geesh haha

I guess you missed the part where forbiddanlight said "Begin Game!"

There are two potential issues with the testing thing.

1. We don't know if putting those two together will be detrimental to the town. There's a possibility of "When X and Y card are in play, Effect Z happens"
2. How the hell do you move someone?

[Papa Zito]

And I still want a roleclaim.

[ZazieR]

1. Which is why we should look first at their behaviours and what they say.
2. I think it was somewhere stated. Will look.

[ZazieR]

And I still want a roleclaim.

This.

[Mufasa]

I was still looking at the thread title and it said pregame my bad.

[ZazieR]

Abilities may cause a player to change subgames (this can cause subgames to have more players than they started in), though players cannot be changed into a subgame that has ended. Factions with factional kills may kill one player each {period} in any subgame one of their members is in, but factions with factional communication (i.e, Mafia) may communicate with all other members of their faction outside the thread regardless of alignment.

[ZazieR]

In other words, if we can get one of Tar's or FL's subgame to end before on of Benmage or DDD move to the other, they can't fulfill their win condition if they are telling the truth, right?
I think we should aim for that.

[Mufasa]

like in the card game combos like shifting skies or platinum angel and darksteel forge..... they could prove to be making a scum gambit.

[ZazieR]

<22> Whenever a player wins or loses the game, that player will be removed from the game.

If they are telling the truth, one of them will lose when one of Tar's or FL's subgame ends. So it seems that the other will then be removed if they are telling the truth.
In other words, this will be worked out eventually. We don't need to test the claim by putting them together in one game.

[Mufasa]

don't lovers die when one of them is killed? so if Benmage is killed in tar's subgame will DDD be killed here.

[ZazieR]

I guess that works as well.
It still brings us that the claim is test-able without putting them together.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

ZazieR doesn't have the town win condition.

[ZazieR]

ZazieR doesn't have the town win condition.

And you think that because?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

See Kinetic's post in Tar's subgame for reasoning.

[ZazieR]

Just explain it in your own words.

[Papa Zito]

ZazieR doesn't have the town win condition.

You're avoiding the roleclaim. This makes me highly suspicious.

[Mufasa]

I remember reading that when a lover dies their lover also dies....

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

ZazieR doesn't have the town win condition.

You're avoiding the roleclaim. This makes me highly suspicious.

I already claimed my role...