MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (fl's subgame): Game Over

[ZazieR]

I disagree Sajin.
As said already, time will eventually tell if they are lying or not. As shown in your topic, you are going to get rid of Benmage. If he's lying, DDD is lying as well and we can lynch him. If Benmage is telling the truth, DDD will most likely be removed.
Just because I have a different approach to get rid of a different faction, doesn't make me scum.

[ZazieR]

ZazieR doesn't have the town win condition.

You're avoiding the roleclaim. This makes me highly suspicious.

I already claimed my role...

Name?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Just explain it in your own words.

My lover suggested to me that you're just misinformed and that I should stop attacking people, so I'm dropping this.

[ZazieR]

Daytalk?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Daytalk?

Yes.

And I'm Asuza, Lost but Seeking.

[Papa Zito]

Ok.

Looks like Benmage will follow suit.

[ZazieR]

DDD

Benmage just mentioned a safe-claim. Can you elaborate?

[ZazieR]

Sajin

, Vino just quoted from our game already.

[ZazieR]

Sajin

It seems that Benmage has something to say. I'll respond to your post when he has said what.

[Papa Zito]

This talking across games thing is weird.

I'm not seeing how Baru and Asuza are linked.

[SpyreX]

I tend to believe them.

However, that doesn't change anything - if someone can ship off DDD then more power to you:

1.) We get rid of a neutral PR.
2.) We get rid of scum in some kind of super gambit (note, at that point, it'd be part of that game so more power to us).

AND both of those happen without wasting a lynch or useful night actions.

So, yes, I'm actually in favor of moving this day faster than normal in order to make this happen if it could.

[SpyreX]

Ohh and OMGUS-SPACE VOTE

Vote: Papa Zito

Least the 'quan didn't need a device from another race to get where they are. Sheesh.

[Papa Zito]

Pshaw. No, they just needed to be genetically modified by the Dnyarri.

This reminds me.

unvote: SpyreX

Another game killed our RVS.

Wouldn't shipping one of them off be using one of our useful night actions?

[SpyreX]

Shipping a player off?

Useful only under the circumstances it hits a non-town player.

Otherwise it would simply be crippling ourselves.

There's no situation where DDD can be a town player now, thus.

[Papa Zito]

Crippling one maybe, but aiding another. I can actually see the strategic value of one game sending a townie (what's the flavor name for us?) to another game in lylo or something.

I see your point though. It's more useful later.

I'm leaning in favor of a lynch though. Like you said, there's no situation where he's a town player, so I wouldn't count it as a mislynch at all. If they are lovers, then the other dies as well. A 2-antitown-for-1-townie trade is a good thing. Plus it avoids a possibility of something bad happening to the town that receives the other player.

[populartajo]

WFT IS GOING ON HERE?

[SpyreX]

I'm only not in favor of the lynch because I believe them being neutral. I'd much rather hit scum.

And unless I'm missing something which I doubt - the simplest solution is winning our game. I don't have any connection to the other games so they sure as hell aren't get townies from har'.

[SpyreX]

And for the record:

I am NOT reading the other games. Preface business that is coming from other games with a giant klaxon and make it apparent what you are trying to say.

TIA,

Team Victory Ltd. Inc.

[SpyreX]

So, really, the question is: do we try and push this forward and get rid of OUR neutral before they can foist THEIRS on us?

Which means I am in favor of edict 3.2.a: self-imposed faster deadline day 1.

Think about it.

[Porkens]

Even if they are scum, tho...what's the harm to our game (at least in our immediate future)? I'd support throwing DDD (hey nice to play with you btw) into another game. I'd much rather do that than bring BenMage here.

WFT IS GOING ON HERE?

is this a breadcrumb?

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If I were vig, I'd shoot Mufasa.

[SpyreX]

If I were vig, I'd shoot Mufasa.

QFT

[populartajo]

Anyone has an idea of why Benmage and DDD have safeclaims?

[populartajo]

Even if they are scum, tho...what's the harm to our game (at least in our immediate future)? I'd support throwing DDD (hey nice to play with you btw) into another game. I'd much rather do that than bring BenMage here.

WFT IS GOING ON HERE?

is this a breadcrumb?

No, its just me going crazy of the idea of having to read three games to understand whats going on?

What made you think that?

Also, what Sprrex said. If you are going to comment on anything of the other games, please quote and inform you are talking about the other threads.

[jammer]

@ZazieR, can you quote to what of Sajin you're talking to every time. I'm to lazy to look back in that topic every time. =/

Ok, about the benmage and DDD being lovers.
I think I can buy their claim. But I don't feel like making them win as soon as possible. As someone else said in the other thread, if they die/subgame ends, they lose.
1) If they're is a vig (s)he could vig him if he's useless in this game, and it couldn't be a wasted shot on a towny as they're proven not town. They could be gambiting scum altrough I doubt that case.
2) Move DDD out of this subgame, and put him into another subgame. I don't care if he is put with benmage or not. Removing a non-town player isn't a bad move.
3) Let DDD live, in the end pushing him into scumhunting becouse he can't hand a game to scum with doing nothing and selflose.

I'm not in favour of lynching DDD for claiming a third party. I don't see a benefit into lynching him, besides that we're not having an actual mislynch of town. DDD could possibly help in a lylo-endgame situation. I see no harm in letting him live.

[Porkens]

I think it would be a sub0optimal lynch. He's straight up told us exactly what he wants. I don't think one action could loose the game for town, from a modifom point of view, so lets just do it.

Also, as I think SpyreX eluded to, we should probably move fast as to not get outpaced by the other games and stuck with all the players we don't want.

I was just being silly about your 'WFT' Taj.

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If I were vig, I'd shoot Mufasa.