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Jack Jack of All Trades
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Steam-Powered Shovel Goon
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Definitely. Then we'd have something to go on.
I often ask people to join me in bandwagonning early on in the game. There's no longer a Paramawagon and I see no particular reason to recreate one.ekiM wrote:Shovel, yesterday you were asking wolframnhart to follow you onto Para. Now you're voting for wolf. What, if anything has changed?The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the raspberry-laden foe but also the raspberries.-
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Parama Survivor
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As prone to random acts of anti-towniness, I'd certainly keep him alive for a while.Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:Parama, would you nightkill ani as scum?
But this is a silly question. The scum here is obvious.vote: ekiM.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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I find this an interesting statement....you see no particular reason to pressure Para?..at all? Huh... Seems pretty early to make such a statement. why is wolf worth a wagon? and do you often ask people to join you bandwagonning early as scum or is this just a town trait??Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:
I often ask people to join me in bandwagonning early on in the game. There's no longer a Paramawagon and I see no particular reason to recreate one.ekiM wrote:Shovel, yesterday you were asking wolframnhart to follow you onto Para. Now you're voting for wolf. What, if anything has changed?-
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wolframnhart Mafia Scum
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And this vote came from what now? Hell saying "Let's vote:" is like you picked someone at random.Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:Ckd seems town.
Parama, would you nightkill ani as scum?
Let'svote: wolframnhart.They tell you never hit a man with a closed fist, but it is on occasion hilarious. - Malcolm Reynolds
Wolf, I fucking hate your face, but still <3 you as a whole. - Starbuck-
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Steam-Powered Shovel Goon
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I think you're misinterpreting me; I don't think Parama is innocent, I just don't think he stands out. I see no reason to wagon Parama over wolf. And I ask both as town and as scum (I do it as scum because I know I do it as town).curiouskarmadog wrote:
I find this an interesting statement....you see no particular reason to pressure Para?..at all? Huh... Seems pretty early to make such a statement. why is wolf worth a wagon? and do you often ask people to join you bandwagonning early as scum or is this just a town trait??Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:
I often ask people to join me in bandwagonning early on in the game. There's no longer a Paramawagon and I see no particular reason to recreate one.ekiM wrote:Shovel, yesterday you were asking wolframnhart to follow you onto Para. Now you're voting for wolf. What, if anything has changed?
@wolf, that's exactly what I was implying.The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the raspberry-laden foe but also the raspberries.-
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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Well, you just said I was town, now I am misrepresenting you? You could have said "misunderstanding", but you jump right to "misrepresenting". Again, interesting. Am I scummy now?Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:
I think you're misinterpreting me; I don't think Parama is innocent, I just don't think he stands out. I see no reason to wagon Parama over wolf. And I ask both as town and as scum (I do it as scum because I know I do it as town).curiouskarmadog wrote:
I find this an interesting statement....you see no particular reason to pressure Para?..at all? Huh... Seems pretty early to make such a statement. why is wolf worth a wagon? and do you often ask people to join you bandwagonning early as scum or is this just a town trait??Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:
I often ask people to join me in bandwagonning early on in the game. There's no longer a Paramawagon and I see no particular reason to recreate one.ekiM wrote:Shovel, yesterday you were asking wolframnhart to follow you onto Para. Now you're voting for wolf. What, if anything has changed?
Actually how am I misrepresenting you? When someone says "I see no particular reason to wagon" someone, that usually means they dont think someone is scummy. please help me understand your statement without attacking my questions. Exactly why do you think that Para is "not innocent"? I would like your stance on Para (without a reference to wolf in it).-
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Parama Survivor
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Is there a good reason for asking a stance on me?ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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farside22 Mafia Mum
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MacavityLock Impin' Ain't Easy
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The following people need to post content like now: bv, wolf, DDD.
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I was totally going to ask ekiM's question first, and I don't believe it's satisfactorily answered yet. Why ask wnh specifically for the follow?Steam-Powered Shovel wrote:
I often ask people to join me in bandwagonning early on in the game. There's no longer a Paramawagon and I see no particular reason to recreate one.ekiM wrote:Shovel, yesterday you were asking wolframnhart to follow you onto Para. Now you're voting for wolf. What, if anything has changed?
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Still an open question.MacavityLock wrote:
Weak. Why would scum have incentive to hold onto a random vote?Parama wrote:reaching for reasons to hold onto an RVS vote ofc
Make a case that doesn't involve "holding onto a random vote".Parama wrote:The scum here is obvious.vote: ekiM.
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Fascinating, captain.ekiM wrote:Why didvote for bv310 over the guy who is seemingly his top suspect?
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Jack, you're playing a most dangerous game.Vote: DDDYes, my fake claim is Innocent Aligned with the Town win condition as per the mod's first post.-
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Still an open question.[/quote]MacavityLock wrote:
Weak. Why would scum have incentive to hold onto a random vote?Parama wrote:reaching for reasons to hold onto an RVS vote ofc
They can't find a better reason to vote so they make stuff up to hold onto the only vote they can.
Make a case that doesn't involve "holding onto a random vote".[/quote]Parama wrote:The scum here is obvious.vote: ekiM.
Too bad.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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MacavityLock Impin' Ain't Easy
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Parama Survivor
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ML, here's why my point is better than you think it is:
1. Doesn't even consider that it was an RVS voteekiM wrote:So, Parama. He asks people to vote him at the start so he can OMGUS. That's removing information about whom he chooses to go after. "Let's not worry about the miller claim, we should scumhunt" then... doesn't scumhunt. And spams a page arguing about meta. Fine with this vote.
2. Accuses me of not scumhunting even though I was and am scumhunting
3. Didn't spam a page - others started the argument after I brought it up, and it's an argument I've had 100 times and am tired of. Stupid reason
Look at how BS his reasons to vote me are. There's really nothing there.
And this is all the content he provides D1 (I admit, it was short, but still...)
And then in ISO 4 he calls my vote on him OMGUS even though I provided plenty of reasoning to vote him (the same reasoning Irestatedhere).ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Parama Survivor
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Scum need reasons to push a lynch, regardless of their quality. Their goal is to lynch townies.MacavityLock wrote:
Why is scum any more likely to do this than town?Parama wrote:They can't find a better reason to vote so they make stuff up to hold onto the only vote they can.
And you think townies would make up fake reasons? Pssh.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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MacavityLock Impin' Ain't Easy
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Parama, I actually have no problem with the reasons ekiM stated in terms of his vote on you. They're completely reasonable, in my opinion.
Now, you're complaining about ekiM for 2 different things: On the one hand, you're saying that holding onto a random vote is scummy because scum make up reasons to do so. On the other hand, you're saying that ekiM's case/vote on you is bad, which is why you're voting him.
Those are two very different things. The former is ridiculous: Scum have no more reason to hold onto a random vote than town does. In fact, if anything, I think a scum might be more willing to move their vote around early, picking up on whatever little new scummy thing they can find from a non-buddy. The latter reason you state is reasonable, assuming that you do find ekiM's case bad.
Still, you're trying to conflate these two very different statements, and I don't like it.Yes, my fake claim is Innocent Aligned with the Town win condition as per the mod's first post.-
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*headdesk*
If you agree with fail logic then I have no reason to be arguing with you, because you will just miss the point.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Jack Jack of All Trades
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curiouskarmadog This Space for Rant
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It's incriminating me because of things I didn't do myself. The obvious issue there should be obvious, obviously.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Debonair Danny DiPietro Jack of All Trades
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Jack, any reason for the utter strangeness of your play? I mean you appeared to play very conventionally as town in Gonzo Mafia. But in this game you’ve done your best to resemble a bulldozer in a china shop.
I’ve got a town lean on Mike right now, I’m reading his efforts as being in good faith. Conversely, I think the person in opposition to him (Parama) is much more likely to be scum. I like the little content I’ve seen from KMD as well, but I’m naturally more suspicious of him because he’s capable of deluding himself into thinking other people are scum even when he’s scum himself. Most everyone else currently blends into a mush of people I’ve not played with before and don’t stand out at all.
Best place for a vote right now is…
Vote: bv310
Only thing he talks about on day one are being from Canada, donuts, and Sens ragequitting after it’s already happened. There’s just no evidence he’s trying to figure out who is town and who is scum.-
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Jack Jack of All Trades
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Debonair Danny DiPietro Jack of All Trades
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Umm, I think Mike's efforts at scumhunting are in good faith; thus I think he's likely town. I'm not sure what the issue is here.Jack wrote:"town lean on mike" but his efforts are in good faith. I don't think scum's efforts are ever in good faith in a 1 scum game (which this now is).
Only a town lean on mike though, and parama is "much more likely to be scum".
Once, he actually tried that game as town before flaking, this time he hasn't even done that.Jack wrote:vote bv? Not scumhunting? Have you played with bv before?-
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