Mad World: Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[curiouskarmadog]

karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. You act overly confident in a vote for no reason other than a "vibe".

you know what is really funny (beside your weak attempt at an insult)?

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

Got ya...and in 4 pages too. (feel free to nominate me on mafia catcher after the game is done).

[curiouskarmadog]

also i note you go right to the insult as soon as you get a slightest bit of hear.

if we are going to wagon, this should be the first.

[curiouskarmadog]

"heat" =hear.....proofreading for the win.

[Karma]

So, Zang, you think 3 votes is a "fast-growing wagon?" I don't know if that's true and you seem way too overeager to defend Longing, who hasn't shown a whole bunch of towntells IMO.

Currently he has 3 votes but he had more.

The last votecount before you unvoted, he had 3 votes. If there are people unvoting (which there must have been, if you say there were formerly more votes) it means the wagon is NOT growing fast, it's dying out. You unvoted because you thought the wagon was growing too fast. This is blatantly contradictory.

and your anxiousness to be disassociated with it could very well be scum distancing himself from what he knows to be a towniewagon

Or maybe it's me unvoting because RVS is over.

That's not what you said. You said this:

Anon- Why am i probscum?

I also dont like the Longing wagon, its growing just as fast as the tasky wagon but with less reasoning. so UNVOTE:

You unvoted because you didn't like the speed of the wagon. Nowhere in that post does it say "oh well RVS is over so let me unvote." You wanted to distance yourself from the wagon.

you're saying if you're scum, you lurk?

I always lurk, I just lurk harder as scum.

That is so WIFOMy it hurts.

UNVOTE: SharkFinn
VOTE: Zang

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah but Karma. WIFOMy as it may be... he's not lying. lol

[Karma]

I know but his defense cannot consist of "well when I'm scum I lurk more" especially combined with his other ultra-scummy posts.

[Tasky]

Hey, RC, I read that game. That's the game I was referring to where you were the king. And I actually like Anon's reasoning, and my vote on tasky was basically a joke. This is my first non-newbie game, so I'm used to L4 meaning that the player has one vote on him. So: VOTE: TheLonging

this is the second time you are bandwagoning... I am not so familiar with online-mafia, but I learned to have suspects against bandwagoners in all the real-life-games I played...

you're saying if you're scum, you lurk?

I always lurk

, I just lurk harder as scum.

do you really mean this? because lurking is detrimental to scumhunting and anti-town...

[Karma]

Hey, RC, I read that game. That's the game I was referring to where you were the king. And I actually like Anon's reasoning, and my vote on tasky was basically a joke. This is my first non-newbie game, so I'm used to L4 meaning that the player has one vote on him. So: VOTE: TheLonging

this is the second time you are bandwagoning... I am not so familiar with online-mafia, but I learned to have suspects against bandwagoners in all the real-life-games I played...

I understand you're a newb here but especially in large games like this, bandwagoning is not necessarily a scumtell. Wagons create pressure, lead to more discussion, information, all that good stuff. However, if the player does it excessively and doesn't post much else in the way of content, it usually is pretty scummy.

[Zang]

You were also heavily implying that it is your basis for people to not see you as scum.

Ok, So I'm supposed to imply that im scum?

The last votecount before you unvoted, he had 3 votes.

I wasn't judging my comment on the votecount. And it did grow fast, regardless of whether it was dying out.

You unvoted because you didn't like the speed of the wagon. Nowhere in that post does it say "oh well RVS is over so let me unvote." You wanted to distance yourself from the wagon.

just because I don't like a wagon, doesn't mean I'm distancing myself from it.

do you really mean this? because lurking is detrimental to scumhunting and anti-town...

Yes, I can remember only 1 game I played as town that I didn't lurk at some point during it. I do know it hurts the town but i try not to and usually it is not intentional.

[Empking]

Karma: My vote on TL is Mostly gut but I'm thinking of going for Zang. You make a good case.

[Karma]

I wasn't judging my comment on the votecount. And it did grow fast, regardless of whether it was dying out.

So what was it judged on, then? And that's not what you said. You said you unvoted because you didn't like

how fast the wagon was growing.

Not

how fast the wagon grew

. You see the difference?

just because I don't like a wagon, doesn't mean I'm distancing myself from it.

Explain this, please. What would you call it?

[gandalf5166]

*splutters* DANNY PHANTOM?!!!! How dare you put Danny Phantom in the same category as Spiderman and Deadpool?! That's practically blasphemy!!!!

[I doubt it]

I don't like Zang's play, but I gather from other people's posts that his town meta is scummy? Regardless, his play deserves my vote.

UNVOTE: gandalf5166
VOTE: Zang

To be specific:

and your anxiousness to be disassociated with it could very well be scum distancing himself from what he knows to be a towniewagon

Or maybe it's me unvoting because RVS is over.

Wishy-washy. Why don't you tell us why you are unvoting, instead of telling us why you might be unvoting? In addition, this post contradicts your earlier post as Karma said.

I always lurk, I just lurk harder as scum.

You're on my lurkerscum watchlist.

Also,

V/LA July 5 - July 12

as noted in sig.

[Karma]

The Danny Phantom theme song is badass.

[Alpha Werewolf]

Karma, is your vote on Zang a pressure vote or an "I think you're scum" vote?

[gandalf5166]

karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. You act overly confident in a vote for no reason other than a "vibe".

you know what is really funny (beside your weak attempt at an insult)?

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

Got ya...and in 4 pages too. (feel free to nominate me on mafia catcher after the game is done).

I don't say you're wrong, because I don't see the point. If you had some evidence, then we could debate. But with what you have, there's no point in me saying anything. More overconfidence for no reason. Keep this up and I might have to switch my vote.

[diginova]

I wasn't judging my comment on the votecount. And it did grow fast, regardless of whether it was dying out.

So what was it judged on, then? And that's not what you said. You said you unvoted because you didn't like

how fast the wagon was growing.

Not

how fast the wagon grew

. You see the difference?

Though it could be a slip, I'm always weary to question people solely based on semantics, as a less-than-perfect grasp of the English language does not make you any more scum or any less likely to scumhunt.

However, Zang's quote about him lurking as town is not good. That does not help the town, as it makes it more likely you will get lynched (bad) and less likely the scum will nightkill you (also bad). No matter if it's unintentional or not, it's still not a good thing.

[Karma]

Karma, is your vote on Zang a pressure vote or an "I think you're scum" vote?

Both, I think. He's my top scumpick ATM, and I want to question him more. Of course, we're 5 pages in - my scumpicks are not set in stone.

Look at me, I also am likely to be pretending not to pay attention.

Didn't catch this at first, but it was an honest mistake. How does it benefit scum to pretend to think we're in the confirmation phase?

@Diginova: It's not just semantics, or his grasp of the English language. This is the post where he unvotes:

I also dont like the Longing wagon, its growing just as fast as the tasky wagon but with less reasoning. so UNVOTE:

He (and the votes themselves) contradict his statement. I think it's fairly obvious what his point was, and he posts with good grammar in the first place.

[diginova]

Ah, missed that post. That makes Zang a better proposition for scum/worthless town, especially due to his track record of lurking.

[Tasky]

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

why exactly are you getting angry?
I find it fishy if you get angry at someone so fast, especially since if he is scum you should be happy if he plays badly, no?...

also i note you go right to the insult as soon as you get a slightest bit of hear.

what of the stuff gandalf said do you think is an insult?

[Zang]

So what was it judged on, then?

I judged it on what I saw in the thread and I saw a lot of votes.

Explain this, please. What would you call it?

I would call it me not liking wagon.

However, Zang's quote about him lurking as town is not good. That does not help the town, as it makes it more likely you will get lynched (bad) and less likely the scum will nightkill you (also bad). No matter if it's unintentional or not, it's still not a good thing.

I never said it was.

[SharkFinn]

Blinovitch Limitation Effect:

1. A time traveller cannot "redo" an act that they have previously committed
2. A dangerous energy discharge will result if two temporal versions of the same person come into contact

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Oooo this just got interesting.

Also:

Unvote: Tasky

The lack of seriousness in his vote counters the previous double standard vote. I'm still figuring out who is scummier of Zang and RC. The "why am I not on either of your lists" comment by RC is suspicious. Personally, I'd rather be on the Prob Town list, but that's just a sane villager PoV. He allowed himself to be included in the scum list (joking or not) is never a good thing. Zang seems to be pinging a lot of players atm, but im not sold on it just yet. Lurking is never good, but from experience lurking is not always scum. It's when the lurker's comments are calculated and percise which pings people. atm, he isnt lurking (so watch for it).

After writing this out, I am

Vote: ReaperCharlie

atm.

[Seraphim]

Alright, first of all,

I don't rely on meta cause I've played too many games where meta basically helped town lose.

If you rely on meta completely, you will lose. But it can be a helpful tool if applied correctly(which is it often not). Also, Longing is scummy for the bolded:

I don't think it is.

Double-standards are very anti-town.

Anyways when Tasky gets back I'll decide if my vote should stay.

Double-standards aren't necessarily anti-town, or even scummy really. especially in the context it was used in, the RVS, it hardly matters at all.

Also, both gandalf and SharkFinn seem very happy simply to join on the wagon without really explaining WHY double-standards are "a serious offense". Shark, like longing, seems overly serious about the wagon. gandalf is quick to switch his vote to Longing, but we'll see.

diginova almost seems overtly cautious...L-4 on page 2 is not excessive, lynch on page 2 would be excessive, everything else is very much allowed. Being wary of an RVS wagon doesn't seem like much to be worried about.

Given this statement we should expect no attacks from you later on in the game based on the premise of inconsistency in reads I take it?

You can expect of me whatever you want to. I play like I want, when I want.

Why is being self-inconsistent in the RVS inherently worse than out of RVS, which is your implication.

It's not. And I'll be the first to admit that my wagon and my subsequent pushing of the wagon was almost completely RVS driven. No better way to get out of RVS than a good ole wagon.

Zang's attack on the theLonging wagon is wrong. There's more reasoning on it than the Tasky wagon. But he seems to read VI ATM, so we'll see about that I guess.

VOTE: TheLonging

This is a good wagon.

[youngminii]

People dislike double standards because it's very similar to lying. Why do you think double standards are okay, Seraphim?

[curiouskarmadog]

karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. You act overly confident in a vote for no reason other than a "vibe".

you know what is really funny (beside your weak attempt at an insult)?

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

Got ya...and in 4 pages too. (feel free to nominate me on mafia catcher after the game is done).

I don't say you're wrong, because I don't see the point. If you had some evidence, then we could debate. But with what you have, there's no point in me saying anything. More overconfidence for no reason. Keep this up and I might have to switch my vote.

now you are threatening me? Why OMGUS vote me? What have I done that you deem scummy other than vote you on a vibe (at first)

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

why exactly are you getting angry?
I find it fishy if you get angry at someone so fast, especially since if he is scum you should be happy if he plays badly, no?...

also i note you go right to the insult as soon as you get a slightest bit of hear.

what of the stuff gandalf said do you think is an insult?

noting this unwarranted defense.

you thinks caps always mean angry? I wanted it to stand out. Believe me, when I get angry you will know…I got this title for a reason.

But lets play make believe real fast….what if I was angry?...What does that mean to you? Does it make me scummy? Why?

also you dont see an insult in this?

karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. .

Really you don’t see an insult here? Also noted.