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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:21 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:
Unvote; Vote: Trasky.
TheButtonmen wrote:Serious meaning not random.
If it's not random, it means you have a reason. Since you have a reason, could you share it with us?
And my name is not difficult to write, so please write it correctly.

Narsis wrote: you fell right into my trap!
I don't understand the trap. Was it a trap to catch scum? If yes, shouldn't you be voting for him then (and telling us the reason)? If no, what was the point of the "trap"?

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jimfinn (3): Chronopie, FakeGod, VasudeVa
Tasky (2): Budja, TheButtonmen
FakeGod (1): Thor665
Thor665 (1): KHG
TheButtonmen (1): Mysterio
Chronopie (1): Tasky
Narsis (1): Plum

Not Voting (2): Narsis, jimfinn

With 12 alive, 7 votes are needed to lynch.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:22 pm

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Tasky wrote:
Narsis wrote: you fell right into my trap!
I don't understand the trap. Was it a trap to catch scum? If yes, shouldn't you be voting for him then (and telling us the reason)? If no, what was the point of the "trap"?
wasnt so much of a trap as a i want into the discussion and you just gave me my reason.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:52 pm

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Plum to Narsis wrote:This makes me feel little better about you, to be honest.
Which one? The falling into "trap" or Narsis admitting he got nuthing but nulls?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:21 pm

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FakeGod wrote:
Plum to Narsis wrote:This makes me feel little better about you, to be honest.
Which one? The falling into "trap" or Narsis admitting he got nuthing but nulls?
The latter.

Narsis - now what's there to discuss?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:21 pm

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Considering the Double Vote appears to be a one day only thing, the claim was fine.

unvote, vote VasudeVa
, don't like his vote.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:23 pm

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What don't you don't like about my vote, hmm?
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:39 pm

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Well, I guess I don't need to hide it anymore. Yes, my power is only good for today. Tomorrow I will revert back to a VT. Hence me not really caring about claiming early, since getting NK would only mean that town lost a VT. However, the information and discussion that has taken place as a result of my claim should be valuable to town.
FakeGod wrote:No one cc'd him, and I was assuming Col. Nobbs is town-sided.

But that
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Do you really expect a counterclaim this early? And Nobbs isn't exactly a pure character. In fact, he's
very
shifty in the stories. Why exactly do you assume that Nobbs would be town?
Narsis wrote:so you want to know my thoughts?
well tbh i got nothing but nulls right now.
How? At the very least, you should be suspicious of me. Do you honestly have nothing useful to contribute after all of this discussion?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:44 pm

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Ugh.

Why would you claim like that.....

Also this is twice now you have used "information and discussion that has taken place as a result of my claim should" as an excuse recklessly claim in an antitown manner.
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Narsis wrote:so you want to know my thoughts?
well tbh i got nothing but nulls right now.
How? At the very least, you should be suspicious of me.
Explain?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:45 pm

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Question: Does FakeGod have any idea of the game's flavor?

I don't, if anyone's interested btw.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:09 pm

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I'm going to
Unvote: Thor
(my previous random vote) and
Vote: Mysterio
.

No one pressed Mysterio at all for any information, yet he writes:
Mysterion wrote:Well, I guess I don't need to hide it anymore. Yes, my power is only good for today. Tomorrow I will revert back to a VT. Hence me not really caring about claiming early, since getting NK would only mean that town lost a VT.
We knew from the wording of the mod's day post that the power would only last a day. Claiming townie when a roleclaim was not necessary seems absolutely bizarre to me, especially the talk of getting night killed.
I've made a huge mistake.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:17 pm

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@VasdeVa, you pushed jimfinn to L-2 after his reaction which gave off pretty clear newb tells. Scummiest thing I see.

@KHG, not a good play by Mysterio, but scummy?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:19 pm

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Not necessarily. I read him as newbscum. I didn't ignore the tells.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:20 pm

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Budja wrote:@KHG, not a good play by Mysterio, but scummy?
Claiming townie for no reason, then saying that it would be no big loss if he was night killed. I think so.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:23 pm

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KHG wrote:
No one pressed Mysterio at all for any information, yet he writes:
Mysterion wrote:Well, I guess I don't need to hide it anymore. Yes, my power is only good for today. Tomorrow I will revert back to a VT. Hence me not really caring about claiming early, since getting NK would only mean that town lost a VT.
Bold is mine.

KHG makes a great point. There was absolutely no need for Mysterio's actions so far in my opinion. This is very suspicious.
VasudeVa wrote:Question: Does FakeGod have any idea of the game's flavor?
I thought I did, but not anymore. :(

I'm very,
very
confused now.

And on top of that, I haven't read the series at all.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:49 pm

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I've gathered that in many mini themes, a name claim may be beneficial. I personally have no knowledge of the series from which the flavor is taken, but would it help here to those who are familiar with the flavor?
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:28 pm

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Mysterio wrote:
Narsis wrote:so you want to know my thoughts?
well tbh i got nothing but nulls right now.
How? At the very least, you should be suspicious of me. Do you honestly have nothing useful to contribute after all of this discussion?
why should i be suspicious of you? have you done something scummy? and if so why point it out to people?
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:30 pm

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jimfinn wrote:I've gathered that in many mini themes, a name claim may be beneficial. I personally have no knowledge of the series from which the flavor is taken, but would it help here to those who are familiar with the flavor?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh-Morpork_City_Watch

perhaps that will help?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:32 pm

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thanks - but the real question is, will a massnameclaim help the town?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:52 pm

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I think the only way massclaim helps town is if scum haven't been given fakeclaims. I haven't found a mod yet who doesn't give fake claims in theme games.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:26 pm

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^ QFT
D1 claiming is never (that I have seen) a good idea.

@KHG, my point is claiming VT at this point isn't pro-town or pro-scum.

@VasudeVa, can you elaborate?
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:30 am

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Thor665 wrote:I think the only way massclaim helps town is if scum haven't been given fakeclaims. I haven't found a mod yet who doesn't give fake claims in theme games.
I just finished one actually.

One of the mafia who turned out to be the lyncher target claimed to be lyncher's role name. It didn't go well.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:08 am

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@KHG, my point is claiming VT at this point isn't pro-town or pro-scum.
I think it's pro-scum; why would Mysterio hammer the point home that he his a townie when no one was asking for a roleclaim?

I can't think of a single reason.
I've made a huge mistake.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:09 am

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EBWOP: That quote above was from Budja.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:42 am

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KHG wrote:I think it's pro-scum; why would Mysterio hammer the point home that he his a townie when no one was asking for a roleclaim?

I can't think of a single reason.
Why not? It doesn't mean someone is being scummy because they're doing something that you can't figure out. In what way does my RC hurt town? Once you answer that, then you can start making the case for me being scum. So far, my RC is 1) uncounterclaimed, 2) revealed the nature of the CHARISN'TMA power for today, which can give us clues to any future powers it might give, 3) tells us that the main characters of Discworld are in use, so if someone tries to fake claim a really obscure character to avoid counterclaims (assuming no fake claims were given by the mod), we can call them on it. Although, even if fake claims were given, it depends on how many main characters are used. There are only so many.

You're going to have to do a little better, KHG.
Thor665 wrote:I think the only way massclaim helps town is if scum haven't been given fakeclaims. I haven't found a mod yet who doesn't give fake claims in theme games.
Even if the mod has given fake claims, you can still pigeon hole certain claims once the game gets moving. Most of the time, all town roles tend to have something obscure (or sometimes not so obscure) in common that we can usually use against the fake claims. I think this game would benefit from everyone RCing.

Unvote: TheButtonmen

Vote: jimfinn
to pressure for RC since he has the most votes on him.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:47 am

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@Mysterio - could you link me to a Day 1 Massclaim where town gained useful information?
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