Open 263 - The Wild Life [Game Over]

[andrew94]

no i didnt, i was asking the mod if others could


strategy: day 1 seer claim+ no lynch
night 1 seer dies
day 2 3 mafia claim, we cant lynch them , if we do , werewolves outnumber us = 1 chance to lynch werewolf
night 2 werewolf obs kills mafia
day 3 more chance to lynch werewolf
etc etc

[parknourie]

LOL. I'm currently in Andrew's game...he is defending me in that game...so no cigar from me, guys.

[iamausername]

strategy: day 1 seer claim+ no lynch
night 1 seer dies
day 2 3 mafia claim, we cant lynch them , if we do , werewolves outnumber us = 1 chance to lynch werewolf
night 2 werewolf obs kills mafia
day 3 more chance to lynch werewolf
etc etc

lol

[drmyshottyizsik]

@ SB- He only fake claims as town.
He slips as scum

@ Andrew ummmmmmmmmmm no!! One wolf would claim mafia and one would claim town. Good luck getting lucky

[andrew94]

dude, theres 3 mafia, if one wolf claims mafia, he gets screwed, mafia can counter claim

[andrew94]

my plan = we have 4 chances to lynch wolves

[drmyshottyizsik]

exactly and then what town auto lynches mafia!?!?
Ya mafia won't go a long with it.

[andrew94]

no, mafia wins if the ratio is 1:1:1 or 2:2:2 read the wiki

[drmyshottyizsik]

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kunkstar7]

:: VoteCount 1x1 ::

drmyshottyizsik (3) -

silverbullet999, parknourie, andrew94

andrew94 (2) -

jasonT1981, drmyshottyizsik

parknourie (0) -
smashbro_of_the_SSS (0) -
silverbullet999 (1) -

iamusername

Erinyes (0) -
Broggly (0) -
Shattered Viewpoint (0) -
Guthrie (0) -
jasonT1981 (0) -
chkflip (0) -
iamausername (0) -

Not Voting (6) -

smashbro_of_the_SSS, Erinyes, Broggly, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie, chkflip

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is November 30, 2010 9:00PM EST.

Section 1, Rule Number 7 prohibits scumclaims from any and all players within the game.

[andrew94]

so they can win if we lynch a werewolf and they derp derp lynch townies

@ mod, what if there is 2 werewolves 2 mafia and 1 townie left? or something similar it would make sense to claim mafia!

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andrew stop trying to make it to where to mafia can win easilly you are just hard core claiming mafia

[andrew94]

nope, im just waiting for everyone to agree with the plan then we can start it

[iamausername]

drmyshottyizsik (4) -

silverbullet999, parknourie, iamusername, andrew94

VOTE: silverbullet

~So that's why I had that there....

[kunkstar7]

A 2:2:1 ratio from day start is kingmaker situation where the last townie gets to choose which side loses. If the game reaches 2:2:1 at night, the win is awarded to the Werewolves due to their nightkill creating a 2:1:1 situation.

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

*facepalm*

alrighty, well. want to get a random vote off of my chest, so

vote: parknourie

for being the second person to be the seconds person on a wagon.

now that that's out of my system,

unvote

right now there are 3 votes on shotty, 2 on andrew, 1 on silverbullet. And only still on the first page. i have a feeling that those are going to pick up steam once more people come online...ugh.

@ andrew

so, you may or may not be claiming something... i think. you ask about rule 7 saying not to out yourself as an anti town group (it says scum, assuming it means both werewolf and mafia). i would like insight on why you would claim one of those two. i'm not saying you claim one or the other, but what would be the benefits?

Preview Edit (didn't see page 2) alright. if that's your plan, why would the mafia agree to claiming what they are? The outline you just gave proves that mafia would pretty much auto-lose, since they are our cannon fodder at night.

@ jason and shotty

why are we calling for a policy lynch? I understand that the way andrew plays is... frustrating at times, but lynching someone on policy leaves plenty of room for mafia and werewolves to blend in without having to say much. how does that help our chances of winning?

VOTE: silverbullet

Last time I played a Jungle Republic game, the player with a wolf avatar and wolf related name turned out to be a werewolf, so clearly the same will be true here.

Also, general question to everyone; would you prefer to lynch a werewolf or a mafia today?

I would prefer to lynch a werewolf, simply so they are down to one. Leaving the other one alive (and hopefully it will become obvious to us as the game goes on) will allow them and urge them to kill mafia, because they face a much better chance of winning in endgame if there are town left instead of mafia. After that, mafia lynches.





and finally,

@ silverbullet

it was you, me, shotty, and Shattered Viewpoint in Ninja Mafia. SV either replaced out and/or was lynched early on, you made it to the final 7? and i was killed in the final 5. then shotty was lynched last, ending in a mafia in. good times. long game, but good times.

[andrew94]

mafia wins in 1: 1: 1 ratio. they are not cannon fooder, they are trying to keep a balance.
same with the werewolves
well, maybe the seer can choose not to claim, and we can just no lynch today

and mod, i have seen serial killer claims before... and even mafia claims where the serial killer is bulletproof.

mod if the ratio is equal of werewolves and mafia with no town role, mafia wins

[drmyshottyizsik]

no andrew then wolves would win

also @ SSSoS- yes good times. But also Andrew has already claimed scum and slipped

[kunkstar7]

mod if the ratio is equal of werewolves and mafia with no town role, mafia wins

This is correct.

mafia wins in 1: 1: 1 ratio.

This is also correct.

If claiming scum is deemed the optimal or proper play for said player, it is allowed. Rule number 7 is crafted to prevent the issues where players out their buddies out of malicious intent, not for any game furthering purpose.

[silverbullet999]

@ silverbullet it was you, me, shotty, and Shattered Viewpoint in Ninja Mafia. SV either replaced out and/or was lynched early on, you made it to the final 7? and i was killed in the final 5. then shotty was lynched last, ending in a mafia in. good times. long game, but good times.

I missed your name when i glanced through the player list. This shall be a fun game indeed >:D. Hopefully I don't end up having to self hammer again -_- lol.

[andrew94]

through, reactions from my plan, i can tell that shotty is either mafia/werewolf

my vote shall stay

[Erinyes]

Andrew stop trying to make it to where to mafia can win easilly you are just hard core claiming mafia

*Red cross* Incorrect. Hello? His original plan wanted the seer out first and afterwards the mafia, which are dangerous for end-game situations to the wolves. Guess what he is?

vote andrew

Anyway, Andrew, how does it help to know if scum may claim in a 2-2-1 (1 town player) situation? In that situation, if a wolf gets lynched, the day afterwards it's either 1-1-1 or 1-2-1, both resulting in a mafia win. If a mafia is lynched, wolves win. And in case of a no-lynch, it depends on who gets killed during the night (I think as I dunno who wins when you enter day in a 2-2-0 situation >.<)

[andrew94]

kkkk

erinys is a wolf

[silverbullet999]

no 1-1-1 would be a kingmaker scenario.

andy's at l-1 i think

.... bloody hell andy causes apocalypse in these games... lmao

[andrew94]

read the wiki
at 1 1 1 mafia wins

thats why my plan is valid as it forces the scums to mantain balance

from reactions, shotty is a mafia and erinys is a wolf