Lost: Season Three (We Have to Go Back!)

[Faraday]

Maybe we'll be bold and never kill him.
Because we'll kill you
then your scumbuddies
and then we'll win.

Don't confused bold with stupid. For me to have scumbuddies I'd have to be scum, but you already knew that.

-Because claiming something that means you have to die before lylo isn't a good scum survival strategy.
How many people in this game have ever fakeclaimed miller as scum?

Miller or death miller? I don't know if I've ever been in a game with a real miller, but I've seen 3 fake miller claims. So uh, yeah.

[Faraday]

Not ecstatic about "dont feel like checking my pm". Kind of stuff I do as scum when I want wiggle room.

Disagree though, I think I'd be more likely to do it as town, but it's more-so just bad play than scummy.

[chesskid3]

The only time I've ever seen a death miller it was a scum reverse death-miller and we lynched it day 1. I meant miller, though. I've seen a few miller claims from reading games, and never a fake one.
So the policy exists of killing htem before lylo in case they are fakeclaiming, but it's almost always an honest town. Hence killing it at the last possible moment.

Oh and Faraday, if you are by some miracle town, start showing it. And I don't mean going lol I'm town. I mean SHOW it.

[Primate]

Personally never claimed fakeclaimed miller as scum. I've seen others do it in games I've played though.

Honestly, if it was miller, I'd probably agree (though I really don't know the meta anymore). Death miller doesn't feel the same though, imho, primarily because it's such an uncommon role in addition to how convinient it is.

Disagree though, I think I'd be more likely to do it as town, but it's more-so just bad play than scummy.

There's absolutely no downside to spending seconds checking your pm so you don't have make a statement saying you are unsure of your own claim in your post, especially when someone specifically asked you a question about that thing. I can completely see how town could do it, but it's unnecessarily sloppy at a point when CES asked for clarification on something specifically. I'd also hope that someone who honestly got a Death miller role wouldn't be laissez-faire about it, but hey, I'm not playing the role.

[jasonT1981]

Why the claim so early?

Anyway, Fate.. you say you want me lynched yet then vote Faraday, then change it to CK.

OK. So, what actually is the case here on CK right now? Aside from the thing at the start?
Why would you like me lynched?
Why am I the next best thing to CK if you can't have him lynched
Why, then with all the above.. have you voted two people in that time, neither of them me.

unvote
voe:Fate

[Bella]

WOW. Even more accusations.

She didn't start the wagon in fear of being attacked by other people. Then after the wagon went of she voted. Classic scum there.

Uh, I made the comment pre-game that Chesskid was scum. Then, in my first post after the game started... I voted for him. Well, tried to, but I typoed the tags. Please attempt to represent reality when posting. Thanks!

Also... VOTE: Dramonic. In the previous games, reck provided just flavor names as safe-claims, which would be consistent with Dram's wishy-washy avoidance of giving a full and proper claim.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Fun fact #3: jasonT doesn't understand why we vote for people.

Vezok, do you think scum prefer to get a fourth vote than a first vote?

Bella, why don't you do something useful with your vote and/or change avatar?

[Bella]

The fact that my avatar annoys you makes me 90% more likely to keep it.

[jasonT1981]

Fun fact 4: I'd rather look at a beautiful woman than a cartoon.


but anyway

fun fact 5: I do understand why we vote for people. I don't understand why he didnt put his money where his mouth was though in regards to his jumping votes on everyone but the one he would be happy to see lynched.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

You're better than that, Izzy.

Jason, you don't get to continue my Fun Fact series. And no, you don't understand why we vote for people. We vote not only to lynch or to signal our suspicions, but more than anything we vote to create pressure, to create tense situations that we may glean information from. The latter is far more important this early in the game.

[Fate]

I don't like the taste of money in my mouth

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

well, this'll be fun.

More chesskid votes. He's seriously going to flip scum

ok, really, why say this? no real reason to accuse anyone yet.

@ AGar

i would expect you to have more to say than just that, the vote for Dram. what're your thoughts now?

@Fate

what's up with these three posts, one after another?

Unvote:
Vote: Faraday

This just doesn't feel right. I rather be voting Jason

Well if I can't have chesskid dead it might as well be jason.

Unvote:
Vote: chesskid

Vote stays.

vote Fate

I don't like how he complains about wanting to vote jason, but doesn't.



also, on a side note, i haven't played these games before, is it very helpful to guess what each character's role will be? cause juliet might work as a miller of some kind too, or a mafia traitor. And yeah, Jack looked like he was with the others briefly. then again, so did Locke if I remember correctly.

[vezokpiraka]

I think a scum wants to start a wagon on a townie so they could escape D1.
If they start a wagon and have the 4 vote then it's even better because people won't suspect them.

Dram please provide flavor. I am not sure I buy the miller claim.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

3rd and 4th vote on a wagon are prototypical scum votes. If you put me in a game as scum and I can choose between being the first and being the fourth vote, I choose first. And everyone should seek to get a wagon going. Please try again.

[Faraday]

Why the claim so early?

Anyway, Fate.. you say you want me lynched yet then vote Faraday, then change it to CK.

OK. So, what actually is the case here on CK right now? Aside from the thing at the start?
Why would you like me lynched?
Why am I the next best thing to CK if you can't have him lynched
Why, then with all the above.. have you voted two people in that time, neither of them me.

unvote
voe:Fate

Why is that scummy?

[jasonT1981]

also, on a side note, i haven't played these games before, is it very helpful to guess what each character's role will be? cause juliet might work as a miller of some kind too, or a mafia traitor. And yeah, Jack looked like he was with the others briefly. then again, so did Locke if I remember correctly.

Absolutely not. I am not going to play guess the Mod in a Reck game. Season 1 had both Claire and Jack as scum. As well as Danielle as scum. Sun as a nurse and Hurley as Cop.

S2 was probably closer to show I guess. But I will never play outguess Reck.

[jasonT1981]

Locke, Eko and Desmond were scum in S2 also. So no, it is not good to guess character role as it is not guaranteed to be like the show.

[AGar]

Oh boy.

SSS and JasonT need to die. ASAP.

Dram needs the vig bullets early on. But this is becoming a common theme of mine. IF {dramonic in game} THEN {suggest early vigging}. Seriously. Happens a lot. But claiming deathmiller makes it more reasonable.

But yeah, SSS and JasonT - they're the ones that need to go.

Start with SSS, as he's keeping an avenue for Jason to stay out of real discussion for this character speculation.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Smashbro_of_the_SSS

Bella should probably start doing something worthwhile too, or she'll be getting a nice length of rope.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Why not vote for Jason? There's clearly more support for a Jasonlynch.

[AGar]

Because SSS is the more obvious of the two to me. And there's really not "support." There's a lot of people saying "Oh, Jason needs to die." but no one has put their vote down yet.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

That's exactly what I mean when I say "support". I'd've said "bandwagon" if I were talking about votes. The potential votes combined with someone pushing a wagon would create pressure in and of itself and a jasonT is clearly more likely to produce a viable wagon.

[jasonT1981]

ummm whats the case on me?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

See? He's already starting to crack and that's with no votes on him!

[jasonT1981]

no, I am actually asking what the case is. If you all would rather see me lynched.. then WHY NO VOTES ALSO.

No case. No votes and yet you say more support for my lynch.

really?

So yes, come on.. all this support for me to be lynched... show me your case and put your money were your mouth is and place the votes if I am the one you think needs lynched most. LIKE MAFIA IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

[jasonT1981]

Alright, lets mix this up. I am Jin-Soo Kwon, town aligned Vengeful Daykilling Suicide Bombing Lover. If my lover dies, I get to make a day kill right away that also takes my life. I do not know if my lover is town or scum though.