130.Mirror Mafia - Game Over

[Nocmen]

Here's what I have to ask right now:

hohum: I repeat the question that twisted asked you previously.

Magister: I'd like to see the reasoning behind me and ctorj being scum.

Ctorj: I want a list of your reads today, who you think the remaining scum are, and why.

[Magister Ludi]

Um, if you flip miller then that means Nocmen and ctorj are scum. Where is the hole in the logic here?

And nocmen, the scum teams are obviously the same. so there is still a red godfather roaming about.

[Twistedspoon]

Um, if you flip miller then that means Nocmen and ctorj are scum. Where is the hole in the logic here?

And nocmen, the scum teams are obviously the same. so there is still a red godfather roaming about.

so we're all sure I'm not the red godfather?
great, well just lynch ctorj blackscum and I'll be neither

it makes no sense lynching me first

[Magister Ludi]

Nocmen, its easy.

Hohum: Claim Cop Guilty on twisted
Twisted Claim miller
ctorj
Noc
Lud

If twisted = scum, then hohum is town, I am still town, and it comes down to Noc or ctorj (because of godfather), but I'm probably going to vote Ctorj anyways.

However, if twisted actually = miller, hohum is still town (unless we don't believe claim, but i do) I am still town, twisted is town, Nocmen and ctorj remain and there are two scum. Ergo, both are scum

[Twistedspoon]

Twisted Claim miller

I didn't just claim miller

I crumbed it and can prove it

ctorj is the blackscum and he's going to get lynched anyways, so why not do him before me to confirm that i'm town

as for the final scum do we all believe the cop claim? I want to hear why hohum chose to investigate me first. It seems an odd choice

[Magister Ludi]

I mean, what else is the point of a 'miller' and godfathers.

[Tasky]

VOTECOUNT 6.2

Ctorj49 (1/3): Twistedspoon
Twistedspoon (1/3): hohum

Not Voting (3): Magister Ludi, Ctorj49, Nocmen


With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. Base-Time will end June, 15th; 15:00 CET

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I will be away next week. Our backup-mod (DemonHybrid) will take over in that period.

[Nocmen]

Nocmen, its easy.

Hohum: Claim Cop Guilty on twisted
Twisted Claim miller
ctorj
Noc
Lud

If twisted = scum, then hohum is town, I am still town, and it comes down to Noc or ctorj (because of godfather), but I'm probably going to vote Ctorj anyways.

However, if twisted actually = miller, hohum is still town (unless we don't believe claim, but i do) I am still town, twisted is town, Nocmen and ctorj remain and there are two scum. Ergo, both are scum

That's with your assumption that you are town. Only you know that if it's true or not.

[Magister Ludi]

What sort of nonsence statement is that? (Unless you want to claim scum and make it easier on us)

Yeah, I'm town, my actions and play this whole game prove it. I don't understand what the point of your statement was, you think I doubt if I am town or not?

[Twistedspoon]

actually, something real strange has just occurred to me

UNVOTE: ctorj

I feel like hearing from ctorj is quite important right now

[Magister Ludi]

Why?

[Twistedspoon]

because we'll find out his alignment soon enough

and whatever alignment he is It'd still be helpful for getting the last scum

I think I'll put my vote back on because he needs pressure though. We're in this mess because he was never pressured enough earlier. I think he's the last blackscum. We need his lynch today. Sooo many benefits and soooo much info

VOTE: ctorj

[Magister Ludi]

Ctorj just needs to be dead period.

I'm leaning more likely to him being scum, but he's done basically nothing all game and should be lynched.

[Twistedspoon]

well vote him with me then

whatever you think about me he's bound to be the other scum and his lynch should confirm me as town if I'm correct in thinking that he's blackscum since only the godfather would remain

[Nocmen]

Why do you think he's blackscum? I've tried and I can't really get a good read on which team he's on.

[Twistedspoon]

tbh, it doesn't really matter which he is, a scumflip is a scumflip

however if he is blackscum it confirms me as town.
I think he is blackscum though due to the other blackscummers

I looked at Ctorj as a possible town miselimination, because I've seen it happen to newcomer-town all the time. His post here shows he's got a head on his shoulders.

here gollum has a town read n ctorj

TS, ctorj, and (to a lesser extent) ML are good in my book.

same with pine

Ctorj is town in my books for just this post. He says perfectly what I think

and so does flinter

it's not hard to see that the only players who have town reads on ctorj are the blackscum
and that was without even looking at the ctorj ISO

Conclusion:

Ctorj is obviously blackscum. Lynch him to eliminate 1 scum and confirm me as town. Seriously, why aren't you voting yet?

[Nocmen]

I'm convinced with Ctorj. Almost certain he's scum, but now it makes sense that he's black.

Vote: Ctorj

[Twistedspoon]

super

I got to get some shut-eye now. I have a big geography exam tommorow and the hour is late

It's pretty obvious that ctorj is scumand once he flips blackscum (see post #1490 or any blackscum ISo) I become confirmed town due to the only remaining scum being the godfather and Hohum will probably get shot in the night by the remaining redscum due to him being cop. So whatever happens we go into the last day with one less scum and a confirmed townie. Our chances are good. Hammer whenever.
G'Night

[hohum]

I'm convinced with Ctorj. Almost certain he's scum, but now it makes sense that he's black.

Vote: Ctorj

You're an idiot. He's lying.

[hohum]

Nocmen: I want you to think closely about what a miller's purpose is.

[Nocmen]

hohum: Do you think ctorj is town? Right now regardless of what Twisted is, I see ctorj as scum. The fact that we get a bonus by letting him help possibly confirm twisted makes it even better to lynch him today in my eyes.

[hohum]

hohum: Do you think ctorj is town? Right now regardless of what Twisted is, I see ctorj as scum. The fact that we get a bonus by letting him help possibly confirm twisted makes it even better to lynch him today in my eyes.

The correct move is always to lynch confirmed scum, especially this close to the end of the game. You didn't listen to me about Pine and you were wrong, now you're still not going to listen to me and lynch ctorj over someone who is currently actively calling you scummy.

We're going to lose this game if ctorj flips town bro. It's as simple as that. I'd rather lynch

CONFIRMED SCUM

so that you guys have tomorrow to work the issue out.

[hohum]

Just in case I'm not making myself abundantly clear he's

NOT

the miller. He's lying, it's a gambit to keep himself alive another day.

[Magister Ludi]

Pending ctorj I vote.

[Twistedspoon]

Just in case I'm not making myself abundantly clear he's

NOT

the miller. He's lying, it's a gambit to keep himself alive another day.

sigh

I crumbed and can prove it.

Methinks you're just annoyed you thought you had the last scum with your investigation