Mini 1243: Magician Mafia (Game Over)

[Junpei]

I thought it was RVS at the start, but Vi's vote made me think it had something to it, so I looked into it. I hadn't noticed what I now find scummy before, and I said "no quicklynch" because in case more people voted, I wanted them to know that it was at L-3. Salurus hasn't done enough to warrant a lynch in my opinion, but he's the scummiest person in the game to me.

[Shift]

Nice of you to finally join Ace, hopefully you'll see the light soon.

Ace not posting yet is ridiculous, so are Saul, Spring, and Riggs not voting anyone.

I DO WHAT I WANT

I don't really like RQS but I know some players like to throw fits when someone doesn't answer your questions.

Hypocrite much?

Way to take me out of context, and out of all the things you could take out of context you decide on a joke. Flail harder.

Context was Amrun asking me why I hadn't confirmed yet (I was the last to confirm) with an RVS vote. I said "I DO WHAT I WANT" as a joke, real reason was I went to bed before he sent out PMs and I had been at school all day.

There is a big difference between joke answering why you were the last to confirm IN YOUR FIRST POST and not voting anyone despite posting multiple times.

tl;dr: Taking jokes out of context, still hasn't voted, flailing scum

donates to Michele Bachmann 2012 Campaign

Policy lynch

BUT SHE CAN BRING BACK $2 GAS AS PRESIDENT, CONTROLLING SUPPLY AND DEMAND IN A FREE MARKET IS WHAT PRESIDENTS IN DEMOCRATIC, CAPITALIST COUNTRIES ARE SUPPOSED TO DO!!!!!

Relevant, just think this person actually has a chance at being our next President. Packing my bags to go abroad when I graduate.

Nah but I've spent too much time off topic, time to get srs.

[Vi]

tl;dr: Taking jokes out of context, still hasn't voted, flailing scum

*looks concerned*
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unvotes saulres

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[Shift]

Spoiler:

[Vi]

tl;dr: Taking jokes out of context, still hasn't voted, flailing scum

*looks concerned*
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unvotes saulres

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*prints off Shift's case*
*holds case at arm's length very delicately with two fingers, touching it as little as possible*
*other arm digs for clothespin*
*puts clothespin on nose*
*looks away while dropping case on compost heap*
*swiftly walks away before considering clothespin removal*

[Shift]

tl;dr: Taking jokes out of context, still hasn't voted, flailing scum

*looks concerned*
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unvotes saulres

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*prints off Shift's case*
*holds case at arm's length very delicately with two fingers, touching it as little as possible*
*other arm digs for clothespin*
*puts clothespin on nose*
*looks away while dropping case on compost heap*
*swiftly walks away before considering clothespin removal*

Oh, no! It's not much now...It's not much now...but...

...Give it time...Give it time...

*backs slowly into darkness while rubbing hands together*

[Vi]

tl;dr: Taking jokes out of context, still hasn't voted, flailing scum

*looks concerned*
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unvotes saulres

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*prints off Shift's case*
*holds case at arm's length very delicately with two fingers, touching it as little as possible*
*other arm digs for clothespin*
*puts clothespin on nose*
*looks away while dropping case on compost heap*
*swiftly walks away before considering clothespin removal*

Oh, no! It's not much now...It's not much now...but...

...Give it time...Give it time...

*backs slowly into darkness while rubbing hands together*

[Shift]

Spoiler:

[Amrun]

Okay, first things first:

*brings suitcase on stage*
*opens suitcase to reveal smaller suitcase inside*
*opens smaller suitcase to reveal a safebox*
*opens safebox to reveal a mystery box*
*opens mystery box to reveal a one-shot Cult Cop ability a matryoshka doll*

*shoves large pile of excess baggage to side*

I don't even know what this means or how it correlates with me spitting cherry coke but I love this post restriction.

Vi, tell me, are you allowed to break your post restriction X amount of times per day, X amount of times per game? Incorporate the number "1" into your response for the former, and the number "2" for the latter. The second number will be what X is, so you should incorporate that into your answer as well. If you are not allowed to break restriction ever, use the number "3".

Wow that is complicated.

Unvote, vote saulres

I know you'd mentioned saulres before, but why did you only finally vote him in a post that didn't mention him at all? Is buddying with Junpei enough to make him scum, in your opinion?



Saulres is null at best, and in fact, I get town vibes from him. The scum here is Junpei. After CC and Vi voted, Junpei very clearly fabricated reasons to suspect saulres. It read to me as looking for an excuse to get on the biggest wagon - and, as ace noted, the "no quicklynch please" indicates that Junpei expected this wagon to result in a lynch. All of Junpei's subsequent responses have not read genuine to me.

VOTE: Junpei

[springlullaby]

^^
Junpei looks alright to me.

saulres too.

As for Vi, I'm going to ask you questions about you/your role/restriction like everyone else even though we all should know by now you can't answer questions about your restriction.

Social Security number?
Can you use more than 9 periods per post?
Are you sure your post restriction is not just a figment of your imagination?
Was the part of your role PM about the restriction written by Nicholas Sparks?
I am selling my Justin Bieber My World 2.0 CD for $5, are you interested?
Why are we all asking you questions about your restriction even when we know you can't answer them?
Are you a Power Ranger in real life?
Can your post restriction be lifted if I say the magic phrase?
Is the magic phrase "Pass me some of that reefer"?
I'm failing high school Algebra 2, any tips?
Is your role allergic to peanut butter?
Are you allergic to peanut butter?

These are important questions, please answer all of them to the best of your ability.

I'm rescinding what I said about shift earlier. Above rubs me wrong. It's strangely aimless, why did you feel the need to write that much stuff to...say that questionning Vi is pointless? I mean, if you have a point, why not make it directly? Post padding? Indirect attack?

[Amrun]

Why does Junpei look all right to you?

[Crab Canon]

Unvote, Vote: Junpei

Junpei, you learn anything about of your RVS questions? I find you strangely contentless upon review asking those questions, worrying about if I sign my posts or not, and then sheeping a vote onto salures for what looks more like noob behavior than alignment indicative behavior.

Tell me something substantial you've learned from those questions so I know you're not just faking it.

[Vi]

Unvote, Vote: Junpei

Junpei, you learn anything about of your RVS questions? I find you strangely contentless

upon review

asking those questions, worrying about if I sign my posts or not, and then sheeping a vote onto salures for what looks more like noob behavior than alignment indicative behavior.

Tell me something substantial you've learned from those questions so I know you're not just faking it.

*holds reverent pose as if participating in moment of silence*


*moves again with much sadness in facial expression*
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votes Crab Canon

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[Crab Canon]

The one comment he made about the questions was not substantial if that's what you're implying with the bolded. If it's not...I don't understand your meaning.

[Vi]

Tell me something substantial you've learned from those questions

so I know you're not just faking it

.

*takes picture of Junpei with film camera*
*puts camera into inside pocket*
*waits for a moment*

*pulls adorable Junpei doll from inside pocket*
*sniffs*
*immediately holds Junpei doll at arm's length*
*digs into Junpei doll's mouth*
*finds miniature version of sock previously stuffed in Junpei's mouth*

*walks backstage*

*eventually returns pulling wagon with three people standing on it*
*places Junpei doll on wagon*
*lets three people on wagon trample it a little*

*turns to you*
*raises arm in invitation to lightly, tentatively step on wagon*

[Crab Canon]

I still don't get it, honestly. I think you're trying to say that part of my vote is weak, but it's page four and I don't mind.

[Vi]

but it's page four

[Junpei]

Unvote, Vote: Junpei

Junpei, you learn anything about of your RVS questions? I find you strangely contentless upon review asking those questions, worrying about if I sign my posts or not, and then sheeping a vote onto salures for what looks more like noob behavior than alignment indicative behavior.

Tell me something substantial you've learned from those questions so I know you're not just faking it.

Here's what the questions do for me. Basically, they help me scumhunt later on. Now I changed the questions slightly (my makeshift poem is in there now) from my last usage, but I did that for enjoyment. The only other place I've used these questions is in [redacted]. But just give it time, it should help me understand the people in this game better.

I think what Vi is saying Crab Canon, is that you were hopping on my bandwagon. Well, lets see.

Took a picture of me, takes sock out of my mouth after putting it in pocket, puts my doll on the wagon and tramples it and asks you to come onto it.

Well see now it seems like Vi is trying to say that she wants you to come onto my wagon. But you're voting me.

I think it has to do with how you are asking about my questions when it is so early, and not everyone has even answered them yet.

I don't understand 89 much at all, but I think that's what she means.

SPEAKING OF WHICH. Everyone please turn your attention to said questions and answer them. By the way, Crab Canon, I am not a noob. I am relatively new to forum mafia, but I am not as greenhorn as the people that people call noobs.

[Crab Canon]

We're not calling you a noob and that is fact one of the conversations going on in our hydra QT. You aren't a noob. You and I (Juls) have played together. You were much more aggressive in that game. Trying to control things. You were town. Here, you are tentative (for instance where you put saulres at L-3) and seem to be posting just to be active, not to scum hunt (such as when you were asking why I signed my posts and VP didn't...what do you learn from that about our alignment? Absolutely nothing).

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Vote Count 1.4

Junpei (L-3) - Sathoris, ace5993, Amrun, Crab Canon
saulres (L-5) - Shift, Junpei
4nxi3ty (L-5) - sottyrulez, Locke Lamora
Crab Canon (L-6) - Vi

Not Voting (4) - saulres, springlullaby, Guy_Named_Riggs, 4nxi3ty

Deadline: Friday September 30 @ 1:00 PM Eastern
Countdown: (expired on 2011-09-30 13:00:00)

[Junpei]

We're not calling you a noob and that is fact one of the conversations going on in our hydra QT. You aren't a noob. You and I (Juls) have played together. You were much more aggressive in that game. Trying to control things. You were town. Here, you are tentative (for instance where you put saulres at L-3) and seem to be posting just to be active, not to scum hunt (such as when you were asking why I signed my posts and VP didn't...what do you learn from that about our alignment? Absolutely nothing).

I am actually trying to turn down my activity a little bit. You see, every game I join I have the highest post count. I have a life and I have work, but I also have a have something of a passion of mafia, and I like to check threads whenever I have free time that I'm not using for something else. I'm also in 4 games as a way to do that.

Regardless, I am still scumhunting, I'm seeing that quite a few people have posted without saying whether or not they're giving answers and if they are what those answers are. Salrus still hasn't done anything to take my vote off of him. He misrepped Shift, and his post before that had a line that was such a stretch it made no sense, and is still defending from Shifts' vote, which obviously wasn't so substantial.

[ace5993]

I believe what Vi is saying is that Crab Canon's vote on Junpei is weak and tentative. Trying to call the RVS questions scummy is a little bit of a stretch however his vote is certainly better than Junpei's vote on saulres. I see nothing by Junpei that makes me want to change wagons. Trying to tune down your activity? Doesn't look like that. More like tuning down your content. His recent two posts are bad. #72 - Asks everyone to answer his questions and takes a couple paragraphs trying to interpret Vi. #75 - Very weak defense that sidesteps Crab Canon's accusation. Oh yeah, and

trying to throw suspicion

on those that haven't answered your questions.

But back to 72 how have those questions helped him again? Oh yeah, they help him scumhunt. Nice in depth explanation right there. Also I will not be answering the questions because I have answered them previously in [redacted].

[Junpei]

Why'd you reference [redacted], an example I'd like to use but can't, don't make it seem like a poor representation of the questions.

I did not throw suspicion on those who haven't answered my questions, I'm personally suspicious of those who have completely ignored commenting on whether or not they will answer the questions.

[Amrun]

Why is that suspicious?

I'm not answering them because they're stupid and I see no reasonable method of scumhunting in them.

You're missing the point. Crab asked HOW you used them to scumhunt; you answered, "I use them to scumhunt."

[Junpei]

Oh, well basically it tells me about your mind a little bit. While it is possible that I can get a scum tell from them, I think a town tell is more likely to arise.

Here are Shift's RVS answers
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p3438107

I like it when answers like these happen (ones that aren't like GuyNamedRigs answers; very short) because there is more to analyze. For instance "react; too lazy and incapable to anticipate movements". This would come from someone who is not confident in themselves to a considerable degree, and also shows some apathy. I might be able to find an example for you later, but little things like "shows apathy;laziness" and "unconfident" could be very helpful in understanding someones' post. I also think that these answers are mostly pure because people don't put their guard up to these questions usually, and when they do it is either obvious in their answers or they don't answer. The former could evolve into a scumtell, the latter is a null tell because we can't tell why they denied, but at the same time, it could help us scumhunt later on by using their reason for not answering.