Mini 210: Secret Ballot Mafia- The Ballotbox is Closed!

[Someone]

So we have to stall the game until that happens?

[ChocoCid]

I honestly don't know. I would think a replacement would be found already on this site, to be honest.

[Save The Dragons]

I honestly don't know. I would think a replacement would be found already on this site, to be honest.

If only you knew...

Anyway.

My list is:

1. Astronaut
2. Raj
3. Choco

I think it could be KE but he's bouncing off the wall in another game, and he's pretty humorous, so I'm less inclined to think he's scum at the moment.

[halfpint]

Sorry about the delay in posting my thoughts about what is going on. I will do so tomorrow.

[Pariah]

Here's my "Top Three" list.

1. KingEnigma, for being "sure" but unwanting to go vote.
2. Chocokid, for the whole trying too hard thing.
3. Raj. He was very quick to want to go to a vote, and seemed sure of "one of these two are scum."

[KingEnigma]

its all i'm saying. You guys are mostly deciding its me based on my behaviour being out of the ordinary, and its not out of the ordinary. Have I posted anything suspicious? No, because Ive absolutely got nothing to hide. (except for my role, which the only way your finding that out is through death or some other means, because "I'll never tell")

You can find that act scummy if you want, but claiming as ive said before, lets the mafia know 1. Whether your worth killing at night or 2. Whether your okay to be looked over and kill someone else who may be more important.

Also if I claim something I'm not, even to protect the town, its a lie and I'll get l'll get lynched for that. So there you go. I'm crazy and stubborn, but not scum.

[halfpint]

Okay, so I've read through the posts ....

My top 2 suspects (I really don't have a strong third suspect) at the moment are: raj and Astronaut.

Raj because he seems to be just wanting to get through the day, putting 2 names up for a candidate to lynch. He writes:

It sounds like we may have our two nominations for lynch, Pariah and ChocoCid..

then,

in my eyes ChocoCid & King Enigma are our leading people.

Both times he gave no real explanation of why he switched King with Pariah. Also, he hasn't given any real argument at all on why these are his top 3 picks, especially Pariah and Choco. He is also one of the people that was proposing to keep the votes secret .... his post of

that being said i think that if we vote in the open it will help the mafia. it sounds like the town could have some advantage or special role that gives them an advantage to keeping everything secret.

seems like a weak attempt to put an argument behind why we should vote in secret, which IMO can only

hurt

the town.

Astronaut mainly because of this question:

Are Someone and I the only ones concerned about how we should vote?

We have talked quite a bit about how we should vote. I, for one, posted my thoughts on the subject more than once. In fact, that's pretty much what the entire game has been about thus far -- deciding on how we should vote. This question comes off to me as someone who is trying too hard to appear to be pro-town.

[Someone]

Are Someone and I the only ones concerned about how we should vote?

We have talked quite a bit about how we should vote. I, for one, posted my thoughts on the subject more than once. In fact, that's pretty much what the entire game has been about thus far -- deciding on how we should vote. This question comes off to me as someone who is trying too hard to appear to be pro-town.

I believe that at the time it seemed like the majority of the people wanted to keep the votes secret, which is why astro made that statement.

[halfpint]

Are Someone and I the only ones concerned about how we should vote?

We have talked quite a bit about how we should vote. I, for one, posted my thoughts on the subject more than once. In fact, that's pretty much what the entire game has been about thus far -- deciding on how we should vote. This question comes off to me as someone who is trying too hard to appear to be pro-town.

I believe that at the time it seemed like the majority of the people wanted to keep the votes secret, which is why astro made that statement.

Well, it was a while after I left for vacation, and I know that we had been talking about it before I left ... His question seems scummy.

[ChocoCid]

I'm not pushing anyone here, but I find it somewhat odd that people are saying stuff like "the following people look scummy:" and yet nobody's calling for a vote.

Obviously that can't be a scum tell because there are far too many of you who aren't calling for a vote, but it's just something that strikes me as odd.

Do you lack confidence in your thoughts that much or are you just waiting to see what everyone else does?
(general question to everyone who has posted a "top three" list and hasn't said "vote now" yet)

[halfpint]

Well, I was waiting for more dialogue about who people found suspicious. If too many people say vote now and we haven't come to a consensus of who we should vote for, then we will go into to night without being open about who we should vote for. I thought that was the idea. Am I mistaken?

[ChocoCid]

Makes sense to me.

[Someone]

rajrhcpfreak

1. KingEnigma
2. ChocoCid
3. Pariah

Someone

1.rajrhcpfreak
2. KingEnigma
3. Lurkers

Chocokid

1. Astronaut , King Enigma (tied)
3. rajrhcpfreak


Mathcam

1.Astronaut, raj, and KingEnigma

Lubabah

1. Astronaut
2. "The" King
3. Pariah

Astronaut

1.Raj
2.Chocokid
3. ???

STD

1. Astronaut
2. Raj
3. Choco

Pariah

1. KingEnigma,
2. Chocokid,
3. Raj.

Halfpint

1.Raj
2.Astro

King enigma

1.Chocokid

It looks like KE and raj are the most suspected by now. They are followed by Astro and chocokid.

Maybe a revote with just the king and raj? Maybe include astro in the most suspicious bunch?

[mathcam]

By my count, which is usually incorrect, I think Raj has 7 appearances and KE has 6. Further, Raj appears higher than KE more frequently than the other way around. I think if I were to order my list right now (which I hadn't originally thought we were going to do), I'd also put Raj at the top. So I personally think we've come to a decision. Let's make sure we're okay with this, but we're far enough away from the threshold that there's room for me to call for a

Vote now

.

Cam

[ChocoCid]

I'm going to move astronaut down on my list to a third place position. He's hounded me a bit unnecessarily, but isn't that scummy outside of that.

KE is still extremely scummy and using craplogic to justify his "no roleclaim" stuff, so:

1. King Enigma
2. raj
3. Astro

[Save The Dragons]

Vote Now

I'm definately ok with voting raj.

[ChocoCid]

I'm okay with voting for Raj if that's what everyone else is calling for. I'd personally prefer to vote for KE, but I agree that unifying behind one lynch is the best thing to do today.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Maybe a revote with just the king and raj? Maybe include astro in the most suspicious bunch?

I would like to see a revote between me and King.

But it looks like it will be 4-6.

all i have to say is....

its all i'm saying. You guys are mostly deciding its me based on my behaviour being out of the ordinary, and its not out of the ordinary. Have I posted anything suspicious? No, because Ive absolutely got nothing to hide. (except for my role, which the only way your finding that out is through death or some other means, because "I'll never tell")

You can find that act scummy if you want, but claiming as ive said before, lets the mafia know 1. Whether your worth killing at night or 2. Whether your okay to be looked over and kill someone else who may be more important.

Also if I claim something I'm not, even to protect the town, its a lie and I'll get l'll get lynched for that. So there you go. I'm crazy and stubborn, but not scum.

[Someone]

Hold on a sec. Let's have everyone confirm that they'll be voting for raj, if that's the path we've decided to take.

*confirms voting raj*

[ChocoCid]

Yeah, I'll confirm that I'll vote raj.

[Astronaut]

Confirming.

[KingEnigma]

You guys are smarter than this, the reason I didnt want to go ahead and vote vote now, was because there was much discussion that needed to be done and didnt want a quick hop on force us into voting unprepared. Done and Done.

I'm telling you now that ChocoCid has to be scum, you dont have to believe me, but take a look at the last few posts. I'm for sure scummy but hey theres another guy thats going to be lynched so I'm jumping on this one.

I'm wanting ChocoCid hanging, and I'm pretty sure thats the way I'm voting, take this as mutiny or whatever youve gotta do, but everyone is absolutely sure that Raj is scum, not arguing, but look at ChocoCid a bit more closely and dont mark it off as me just being weird. So consider this my not confirming for Raj. (which I completely understand the scumminess that this will entail, and I'm sure this will be the death of my career here in Secret Ballot Mafia, but dont let anyone say I dont stick to my guns.)

[JereIC]

Yikes, moving in is a ton of work. I'm pretty close to done now, and should be able to devote daily attention to the game. My apologies for this negligence to moderation duties.

In other news, we might just have a replacement for Ogre! I've got to confirm with him before announcing the replacement, but hopefully everything will be in place by tomorrow.

Vote Roll Call 4: The "IKEA Furniture is Hard to Assemble!" edition.

Calling for Vote (4)

: ChocoCid, mathcam, rajrhcpfreak, Save The Dragons

Not (7)

:Astronaut, halfpint, KingEnigma, Lubabah, ogre(soon to be replaced), Pariah, Someone

Six to rock the vote.

[Someone]

Ok, if we're going to go on with voting raj, then we're going to need at least like 9ish people saying there going to vote him no matter what to make sure there'll be no funny buisness going on so no one else call for a vote until enough people confirm.

That being said, I don't understand KE's refusal to vote raj. Does it matter if you think that choco is scum? Can't we take care of him tomorrow? Or are you equally sure that raj isn't scum? If so, then you may have a case, but you need to explain why.

Otherwise, your refusal to vote raj is at best unruly and probably not pro-town.

We are not hasty in voting now, if you see any reason that raj should not be lynched, you should speak up with your reasoning. You said there is "so much discussion that needed to be done", and it can stil be done! However, once we have decided to vote, the only thing you can do that is pro-town is to vote with the town, whoever it may be.

[halfpint]

That being said, I don't understand KE's refusal to vote raj. Does it matter if you think that choco is scum? Can't we take care of him tomorrow? Or are you equally sure that raj isn't scum? If so, then you may have a case, but you need to explain why.

Otherwise, your refusal to vote raj is at best unruly and probably not pro-town.

We are not hasty in voting now, if you see any reason that raj should not be lynched, you should speak up with your reasoning. You said there is "so much discussion that needed to be done", and it can stil be done! However, once we have decided to vote, the only thing you can do that is pro-town is to vote with the town, whoever it may be.

I agree with this. I would like to hear why you feel that it is better to vote Choco .... do you think that raj isn't scum? There's more than one scum out there right? Why are you so intent on lynching this one particular person? Do you have more information about raj (or Choco) that you aren't sharing? Plus if you know that the rest of us are going to vote for raj (which I haven't confirmed that I will), then what is the sense of voting for Choco? It seems like you are withholding information which doesn't seem very town-like.