Mini #73: Prosaic Mafia (The End)


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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2003 9:43 am

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bigbenwd- 3 (Darkblade, Flying Dutchman, tehgood)
Phoebus- 2 (massive, Stewie)
Flying Dutchman- 1 (Primoris)
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Primoris- 1 (Phoebus)

Not voting (0)- No one

6 to lynch.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:42 am

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Heh, I probably should've sent something out saying my activity would be down this weekend as well, but oh well. I'm here now.

Well, after reading over what's here there really doesn't seem to be much to go on, but I will agree with massive and stewie, Phoebus does seem to be going to great lengths to remove guilt from his(her?)self. Since nothing else out there really seems worth pursuing, how bout a little putting on a little pressure to get some info.

Unvote Darkblade

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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2003 12:00 pm

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ya, im still a bit suspicious of him myself i guess
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:38 pm

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You want me to claim this early in the game?
Well I suppose it won't hurt. I am a use and throw role I suppose.
I'm a one shot vig. You want me to substantiate my claim? Decide upon a target and give me tonight. If I fail, lynch me. If I do deliver, well that should clear my role.

As far as my revoting of Primoris is concerned...well unvoting him in the first place got everyone's hackles up and talk of us being Mafia buddies. Now revoting still perpetuates them? I find that hard to fathom. It could remain on him for the rest of the game for all I care. Only, I do care...I can't discount the possibility of him being pro town, as I can't for everyone else except for maybe ben.

And what is it with ben unvoting and revoting at every instant without sufficient reason? Every other post of his must contain an unvote and revote.

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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:02 pm

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because this is my first game im slightly confused and people keep putting up different good argumentsand i'm also easily swayed lol
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:47 pm

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Sorry, but offering to kill someone doesn't really prove your innocence. For all we know, you are a SK.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2003 4:18 pm

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who were you talking to there? me or him?
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:55 pm

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Vote: no lynch


we could always no lynch it today
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:15 am

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All right. For starters, Phoebus, I would suggest you not killing ANYONE until we figure out who is nasty and who isn't. We don't know how many killing parties we have, so we don't have any way to judge what you're telling us if you kill someone tonight.

I am, however, sad to admit that I agree with Phoebus. Bigbenwd is all OVER the page. With three votes on him already,

unvote Phoebus
vote bigbenwd


will give him four. The "I'm a new player argument" isn't holding water; what's your REAL deal? Even new players know that voting no lynch is only good for the Mafia.

Let him talk.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:13 am

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Unvote: Flying Dutchmand
Vote: bigbenwd


I know it's cheap, but I had no real suspicions against Flying Dutchman and I think we have to lynch someone.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:47 am

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I'm not entirely convinced by Phoebus' claim, but I've got nothing that disproves it, so I'll
unvote
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FOS Phoebus
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bigben does seem a bit erratic. I may end up voting for him in a bit, but I'm gonna let him get some words in before he gets strung up
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:53 am

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You said this was your first game. how did you get 131 posts then?
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Vote: no lynch


we could always no lynch it today
No lynch.
Please
. Only mafia benefit from that. I'd vote you right now if that wasn't the lynching vote. Roleclaim or I
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Unvote: gashbycrumb FOS: bigbenwd
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:10 am

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Since we seem to be going after bigben, so be it. But if claim is believable, we shoudl go after primoris. I think that if we lynch him, we can asume that phoebus is scum too. One shot vigi is too much of a convinient claim. You just have to kill one person and say the mafia/sk were blocked by doc, and then from that moment say the kills have nothing to do with you.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:14 pm

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What I said earlier, Stewie. There's no way to prove OR disprove Phoebus's claim currently, because we have no idea of the real pattern of killers. Thus, the best play is to have Phoebus not kill anyone. It allows us to determine how many killing parties we have; once we do that, we can determine how best to use Phoebus if we have to at all.

Right now, I'm leaning towards believing Phoebus. Again, it'll depend on how many killing parties we have. If it's just Mafia and no SK, then a one-shot vigilante makes sense. If it's Mafia and SK, then we'd most likely have a real vigilante that would come out and dispute Phoebus's claim.

I'd personally hate to see someone waste an investigation on Phoebus, though. Just wanted to put that out there.

(And if you ever want to see how bigbenwd got to 131 posts with this being his first game, search all his posts. *giggle* It's ... enlightening?)
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:00 pm

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yes, enlightening, i like that term, and why is no vote bad? P.S. im gonna be super inactive for the next few weeks... again, sorry, only on once a day probly
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:05 pm

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First off all, you should claim. Second, if we do lynch, there is a chance we kill a mafia. But if we don't, there is no chance. If we don't do anything today, why should we do anything tomorrow? If we miss, at least tomorrow we will have the choices narrowed down. If we lynch scum, there's going to be one less to kill, which is usually 2 more in games this size.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:25 pm

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so does everyone want me to claim?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:53 pm

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It seems to be the general consensus, yes. I recommend you do it, you'll probably get lynched if you don't.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:00 pm

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i suggest you all dont lynch me, it'll be a waste, all i was told though was i'm pro town and i have no powers, other then that, she wouldnt specify, so i dunno even lol
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:08 pm

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OK, who wants to be top dog and put the last vote on bigbenwd? Yeesh.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:17 pm

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*sigh, i knew it wouldnt work, but i swear, thats all i know, im not making it up, she said in my message that im pro town with no powers, i asked if i was a townie or what? and she said simply pro town, no powers, so i'm assuming i'm a townie, but considering i have no proof, and this really sounds like a b.s. role (dang u norinel) im probly going to die anyways, but really, im pro town
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:30 am

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Um, I truly believe that if you were "pro-town" and "powerless" that a mod would have no problem confirming, in fact, that you are a vanilla townie, and would not continue to say that you were a powerless, pro-town role with an unknown name. And since no one has bothered to unvote you, that says to me that none of the people voting you currently are willing to confirm that there are actually pro-town, powerless non-townies in this game.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:57 am

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or that none of them were online at the moment.

unvote bigben


I got a similar role. but the PM wasn't just "you are powerless pro-town" Eventhough he didn't give me a name for my role, you could take it out of the small storyline he gave me. I think that you should be able to do tell what you are aswell. Until then, I'll keep an FOS on you.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:13 am

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Stewie: Was there anything in your PM that might have required you to send Norinel a PM asking if you were really just a townie?
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:42 am

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I did not ask,since it said pro-town and in no part of it an ability was described. But i see how a new player would want to make sure s/he undertands the role correctly. The pm has a bit of background story of your character, which bigben could use to claim, which is why I kept an FOS on him, but other than that,it says that I'm pro town. And that's it, nowhere on the pm it says whether I was townie or something else.

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